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I am interested in anyone researching ATKIN in Stapleford. On the
1881 census Joseph ATKIN was living in Nottingham St Mary aged
50 with his wife Marianne aged 50 born Nottingham with 5 children
Sarah 21, Marianne 17, Mary 12, Edith 10 and Joseph 15.
Missing was Nell who was possibly married at that time. She married
Joseph was born in Stapleford and the only Joseph who is on the IGI
who may fit is the son of Isaac Atkin and Martha and was christened
2 Jan 1831. There are many Isaacs in this town.
Is anyone else researching Atkin and does this family connect in any
way? Any information or records that may help would be very much
Thanks Chris Bartlett
I have some friends who have just become interested in genealogy and I
am trying to help them on their way.
I have no problems getting them started with the LEEBETTER line found in
Greasley 1881 census but am totally at a loss as to where they start
with KLIM from Poland!!
If anyone out there has any connections to LEEBETTER then I will happily
pass on information until they get online, please bear in mind of course
that this is a brand new venture which means little research has yet
The main problem I have is helping them to get started with the Polish
line born Poland in 1920's - does anyone have any idea where we could
Thanks in advance
I just noticed a posting to Notts. which I answered personally and I
then realized that should sent it for everyone to see.
It involved the name MORLEY my great grandmother was Clara May Morley...
she married an ALLEN and then had Clara May. My grandfather married
and Oldershaw and they moved to Canada from
Nottingham in 1912..
Yours truly Linda
Hi - thanks to everyone who responded to let me know Warser Gate, Nottingham
does still exist. Thanks for the maps too, but no more please. Actually,
my system can't handle graphics too well - bad lines (rural), and graphics
can take up to 15 mins to come through so it's best not to send anything of
a graphic nature. Thanks also Sharon Charles for your info regarding 1871
census. I have a question concerning a marriage in Nottingham -
John HOLLOWAY & Ann HALLAM m 18 May 1833.
I found this in a book titled "Nottingham Marriages" in the Melbourne
Library. Can anyone help me in tracking down the record for this - which
Robyn Holloway, NZ
Hi everyone it's been awhile since I've posted my surnames.
Hoping for connections! Vicki
CHAMBERS---All from Kimberley,Derby&Notts England
Genealogy "Thats my story and I'm sticking to it"
From: cromack <cromack(a)btinternet.com>
To: IRELAND <IRELAND-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 31 October 1999 11:40
I thought Id post my interests again
Snaith, Yorkshire, U.K.
NAME PLACE COUNTY COUNTRY DATES
CROMACK SHURBURN-IN-ELMETT WRY ENG PRE 1830
BACKHOUSE WISTOW Nr SELBY WRY ENG PRE 1830
GREGORY HATFIELD Nr DONCASTER WRY ENG PRE 1830
CHAPPELL PEMBERTON LAN ENG PRE 1900
REDSHAW OSBOURNBY LIN ENG PRE 1900
GOULTON WISTOW WRY ENG PRE 1900
LIFSEY HATFIELD WRY ENG PRE 1860
LIFSEY POLLINGTON WRY ENG PRE 1830
GILLHOOLEY LEGONIEL ANT IRL PRE 1900
GAUTON HOYLAND WRY ENG PRE 1900
GAUTON HUCKNALL NTT ENG PRE 1900
GAUTON KINGSWIFTON STS ENG PRE 1850
WOODALL BURN Nr SELBY WRY ENG PRE 1860
HOBMAN SELBY WRY ENG PRE 1830
HUGHES WELBOURNE NRY ENG PRE 1860
DURHAM WISTOW WRY ENG PRE 1860
SANDLON BELFAST ANT IRL PRE 1900
HADGETTS PRESTON LAN ENG PRE 1860
CRUMP ANYWHERE GLS ENG PRE 1860
WARD SHURBURN-IN-ELMETT WRY ENG PRE 1820
PEPPERS CAWOOD WRY ENG PRE 1820
STORR WISTOW WRY ENG PRE 1836
MARSHALL BIGGINS WRY ENG PRE 1800
BLACKER ULLERSKELF WRY ENG PRE 1810
RICHARDSON OTTERINGHAM ERY ENG PRE 1830
ABLETT OTTERINGHAM ERY ENG PRE 1830
SIMPSON SELBY WRY ENG PRE 1830
SCHOFIELD HATFIELD WRY ENG PRE 1830
PINDER RAWCLIFFE WRY ENG PRE 1830
HARTLEY SHURBURN-IN-ELMETT WRY ENG PRE 1800
NURSEY SHURBURN-IN-ELMETT WRY ENG PRE 1800
Original message was about an Australian site that not only has some great Australian and international 'stuff' but also has an article on the 'Australian Society of the Lacemakers of Calais'. This has strong links to Nottingham and give some of the history of the time.
The URL's are www.angelfire.com/al/aslc/ This takes you directly to the Lacemakers article. The Australian site is genealogy online by Cora Num address is www.pcug.org.au/~dnum/welcome.htm I missed the /welcome.htm from the end
Sorry, I did say I was half asleep!
Was there not a Lacemakers Guild that might have a collection of
information to help in this matter
of Lace maker movement to other places?
Also could some wonderful person post the Nott Lookup E mail address
Thanks in advance
William Bingham, his wife Hannah ( Hempstock) Bingham and children Mary,
Jane & William Henry came
from Dunham, Clifton, and then supposedly London to America. This
happened about 1836.
The Hempstock family came as well. What was happening to make this
migration happen ?
Any connections, or ideas will be welcome.
LT Robert Powell
Hi, It's early in the morning and I haven't had much sleep but I will see if I can make sense.
I have just found a brilliant (for me) Australian genealogy site called Genealogy online by Cora Num address www.pcuq.org.au/~dnum It has lots of interesting addresses etc and information for those researching Australian branches but after the discussion about lacemakers on the list recently I thought you might be interested in a page about Australian Society of the Lacemakers of Calais. You can access it by clicking on the Genealogy, Family History etc section in the above site or directly at www.angelfire.com/al/aslc/
> I need source for immigrants to America from Nottingham 1842-1843. Any
> help out there?
> ==== NOTTSGEN Mailing List ====
> Nottinghamshire Genweb:
Hi. I'm new to this list. I'm researching the CURLEY and CAMSELL families
Richard CURLEY, b abt 1855 in Ireland, died 1902 in Worksop. He was the son
of Patrick Curley, b 1802 in Galway, Ireland.
Richard's son, Albert, married Edith CAMSELL, daughter of Robert CAMSELL, a
"woodturner" from Worksop.
Any information about these families would be appreciated.
Thank you so much for the information regarding the breweries/pubs. I will
get some letters sent of in the next few days.
Once again, thank you all, you are a great bunch of folks out there :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Geoff Bradley <geoff(a)galfridus.f9.co.uk>
To: Jackie Watts <jackie(a)adcock28.freeserve.co.uk>;
Sent: 30 October 1999 18:39
Subject: Re: Brewery Archives
> Home Breweries were taken over a few years ago by Scottish & Newcastle
> They might be worth contacting or even try Nottingham archives. The
> original Home Brewery at Daybrook has now closed.
> With reference to The Badger Box, there is still a Badger Box pub at
> Annesley (Near Kirkby-in-Ashfield)
> Their snail mail address is The Badger Box, Derby Road,
> Kirkby-in-Ashfield, Notts. Tel 01623 752243
> Hope this helps.
> Geoff Bradley
> Researching the following names in Lincolnshire & Nottinghamshire:-
> ACKREL & variants (ONS), BRADLEY, CANT, DRING & RUSHBY
> Web site at:- http://www.galfridus.f9.co.uk/
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jackie Watts <jackie(a)adcock28.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <NOTTSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: 30 October 1999 11:45
> Subject: Brewery Archives
> > Hello everyone,
> > I wonder if anyone out there can help. My grandmother Millicent CLARKE,
> born Moorgreen, Notts in 1893 was in service at the Harrington Arms pub on
> Derby Road in Long Eaton. In 1913 she was married from there. The pub used
> to be owned by Home Breweries, but I believe they were taken over by
> Brewery. Does anyone know how I can find out about Home Breweries
> or if there are any.
> > My other query is about the Badger Box at Kirkby in Ashfield. I have a
> photograph of the original pub, but of course, it is not there any more.
> Does anyone know if there are any Brewery Archives that would cover it ?
> same grandmother used to be taken there by her father, with her brother
> sisters, in a pony and trap around the turn of the century. They used to
> there from Shirebrook.
> > I would appreciate even the smallest snippets of info.
> > TIA
> > Jackie Watts jackie(a)adcock.freeserve.co.uk
> > ==== NOTTSGEN Mailing List ====
> > Nottinghamshire Genweb:
> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engwgw/nott.html
Home Breweries were taken over a few years ago by Scottish & Newcastle
They might be worth contacting or even try Nottingham archives. The
original Home Brewery at Daybrook has now closed.
With reference to The Badger Box, there is still a Badger Box pub at
Annesley (Near Kirkby-in-Ashfield)
Their snail mail address is The Badger Box, Derby Road,
Kirkby-in-Ashfield, Notts. Tel 01623 752243
Hope this helps.
Researching the following names in Lincolnshire & Nottinghamshire:-
ACKREL & variants (ONS), BRADLEY, CANT, DRING & RUSHBY
Web site at:- http://www.galfridus.f9.co.uk/
----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie Watts <jackie(a)adcock28.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: 30 October 1999 11:45
Subject: Brewery Archives
> Hello everyone,
> I wonder if anyone out there can help. My grandmother Millicent CLARKE,
born Moorgreen, Notts in 1893 was in service at the Harrington Arms pub on
Derby Road in Long Eaton. In 1913 she was married from there. The pub used
to be owned by Home Breweries, but I believe they were taken over by another
Brewery. Does anyone know how I can find out about Home Breweries Archives,
or if there are any.
> My other query is about the Badger Box at Kirkby in Ashfield. I have a
photograph of the original pub, but of course, it is not there any more.
Does anyone know if there are any Brewery Archives that would cover it ? The
same grandmother used to be taken there by her father, with her brother and
sisters, in a pony and trap around the turn of the century. They used to go
there from Shirebrook.
> I would appreciate even the smallest snippets of info.
> Jackie Watts jackie(a)adcock.freeserve.co.uk
> ==== NOTTSGEN Mailing List ====
> Nottinghamshire Genweb:
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Following last month's request for information about three Royal Naval
vessels commemorated in pub names, Kevin J. Foster has sent us the
following on the Captain, Man of War.
The time period mentioned included two losses of ships named HMS
The first was the third-rate 74 built at Limehouse in 1809, and burnt
by accident 22/3/1813 at Plymouth.
The other, more famous disaster is associated with the iron turret
ship CAPTAIN which capsized off Cape Finisterre 7/9/1870.
This one was built by Laird's and home-ported at Portsmouth. So the
two ships had associations with four ports.
Kevin goes on to say: "If the pub in question was in London near
Limehouse it may be associated with the 1809-1813 CAPTAIN". In fact
the pub we mentioned was in High Street, Poplar, which seems to
suggest this vessel. (For those unfamiliar with London geography,
Poplar and Limehouse are adjacent, the latter being closer to the
There were very busy shipyards all along this part of the Thames, on
both north and south banks, at this time.
Kevin drew on Colledge's Vol.1 and Hawkey's HMS CAPTAIN for this
This month we turn our attention to another popular name for Inns and
Taverns - The Talbot.
Many readers will know that a talbot was a breed of hunting hound and
apart from the tradition that they were spotted and are now extinct,
may not know much more about them.
The relatively few snippets of description are tantalising and paint a
most interesting picture. It was clearly large and very powerful,
since it was used to hunt wild boar. From such references as we can
find, a composite picture suggest that it would have had the form of
perhaps a Staffordshire bull-terrier but of the size of a Great Dane.
Deep-chested, square-headed with very powerful, thick legs. Colouring
was frequently spotted, rather like a Dalmation but plain and patched
colours were also known.
They were highly-prized animals - hardly pets - and a breeding couple
were sometimes gifts at noble weddings. This was a status gift at the
Incidentally, their ferocity in the field could sometimes be
misdirected, as on one occasion a talbot was deliberately set on a
peasant for some transgression and quite literally tore him to pieces.
Finally: Appeal of the Month
We are surprised to find that we have absolutely no entries for
Huntingdon (the city.) Can anyone take pity and remedy this
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In answer to the post, I do not know in what time frame you are seeking
data, however, I have a copy of "Topographical Dictionary of 2885
English Emigrants to New England 1620-1650" by Charles E. Banks. It
lists emigrants by county during this time period.
Starbuck, Edward, Parish Attenboro
Hutchinson, Richard, Parish Arnold
Wheldon, Gabriel, Parish Arnold
Noddle, William, Parish Bole
Gregory, Henry, Parish Brompton Sulney
Odingsells, Thomas, Parish Epperstone
Heathersay, Robert, Parish Gotham
Morton, George, Parish Harworth
Wadsworth, Christopher, Parish Mansfield
Hutchinson, Richard, Parish Muskham, North
Squire, George, Nottingham
Conkling, Ananias, Nottingham
Conkling, John, Nottingham
Ayer, Peter, Nottingham
Gregory, John, Nottingham
Frost, William, Nottingham
Blood, James, Nottingham
Conkling, John, Nuthall
Maltby, John, Retford, East
Maltby, Robert, Retford, East
Maltby, William, Retford, East
Blood, Robert, Ruddington
Brewster, William, Scrooby
Southworth, Edward, Sturton
Robinson, Isaac, Sturton
Shaw, Roger, Willoughby
Bowles, Joseph, Workshop
Some scanty data on ships' names, but most have New England town
destination and references.
I need source for immigrants to America from Nottingham 1842-1843. Any
help out there?
I'm just over the border in Leics and country people here habitually refer
to cattle (heifers, cows, bullocks) as "beast". So I bet you'll find this
term has something to do with the cattle trade.
> From: Tony Mills <tony(a)mills.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: NOTTSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Occupation - Beast Jobber
> Date: 29 October 1999 12:58
> Hi List,
> Just come across a George GRANTHAM in Finningley in 1858 who was a "Beast
> Thought I'd throw it open to the list for discussion!!
> Tony MILLS in Skipton, North Yorkshire.
> Researching all MILLS / MILNES / MILLNS etc in
> Notts and surrounding counties.
> Also DUNSTON (shipbuilders) of Notts, Lincs & Yorks.
> e-mail address: tony(a)mills.freeserve.co.uk
> ==== NOTTSGEN Mailing List ====
> Notts Family History Society Web Site is NOW at