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I have just added the BMD from January 1984, Christchurch Press, do
email me for any of the newspaper snippets.
I have also photographed (and typing up at the moment) the gravestones
at St Paul's Church, Harewood rd, Papanui, that is my current project
some amazing headstones there going as far back as the 1850's,
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Anyone researching the name Chappell around the Helensville area?
I have a carton of old sheet music WWII and earlier. I was having a look at it whilst deciding what to do with it and found a certificate.
The Methodist Church of New Zealand
Certificate of Reception into Church Membership
James Alexander Lamond Minister
date October 19, 1915
It has been chewed around the edges by silverfish.
I would be happy to forward it on in anyone is interested.
Ahhh now - she was not married and her maiden name was Spick, which in
some writing looked like Speck. She was living with a guy called Rogers
and she sometimes went by that surname.
So I am not sure which name she would have been convicted under. She was
Madeline Maude or sometimes used Maudeline, Whilemina, or Magdolena!!!
As I said - an absolute nightmare.
On 31-Aug-14 5:18 PM, Graham L Jones wrote:
> Hello Beth,
> Do you have her full name? How could anyone interpret SPICK as ROGERS?
> On 31/08/2014 3:51 p.m., Aotueka via wrote:
>> Hello all. Can anyone give me some pointers please . . .
>> I have a female relative who was convicted of some sort of an offence on
>> 22nd June 1903, and I think that it was at the Helensville Court . . .
>> or somewhere around there ( Dargaville, Te Kopuru, Paparoa, Maungaturoto
>> way possibly).
>> Is there any listing that would tell me what she was convicted of, and
>> what her sentence was? Her surname was SPICK but could have been
>> misinterpreted as SPECK (or Rogers).
>> Thanks, Beth
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Hello again. I am trying to find information about a man by the name
of Pomper WHEELER. I guess that "Pomper" was a nickname. He went to
either Redhill School or Te Kopuru school around 1906 to 1913ish. In
later years (around 1920-1930) he was in the King Country. If anyone
has a link to this man, I would love to hear from you.
Thanks to the papers past suggestion - I have had a look there but to no
avail, well not with the parameters I entered anyway. I thought that
this sort of stuff would be reported on but not that I could see. The
date of 22 June 1903 is definitely correct as it was written by the
Helensville constable, but (bless his little cotton socks) he never
wrote down what the offence or sentence was!
Thanks for your suggestion Graham . . . I am in Auckland so I guess that
archives in Akld may have this info also? For me however getting there
is a problem, so I was hoping that there may have been a better or
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 Beth Aotueka <aotueka(a)xtra.co.nz>
>Subject: [nz] Looking for a 1903 conviction
>Hello all. Can anyone give me some pointers please . . .
>I have a female relative who was convicted of some sort of an offence on
>22nd June 1903, and I think that it was at the Helensville Court . . .
>or somewhere around there ( Dargaville, Te Kopuru, Paparoa, Maungaturoto
>Is there any listing that would tell me what she was convicted of, and
>what her sentence was? Her surname was SPICK but could have been
>misinterpreted as SPECK (or Rogers).
You may like to try looking in the Police Gazettes at Archives NZ.
Police Gazettes came out weekly with details of court cases and
people of interest, and were bound into annual volumes and name
indexed at the end of the year.
I seem to remember the Christchurch office of Archives NZ having them
up until well after the year you are looking for.
Hope this helps
Hello all. Can anyone give me some pointers please . . .
I have a female relative who was convicted of some sort of an offence on
22nd June 1903, and I think that it was at the Helensville Court . . .
or somewhere around there ( Dargaville, Te Kopuru, Paparoa, Maungaturoto
Is there any listing that would tell me what she was convicted of, and
what her sentence was? Her surname was SPICK but could have been
misinterpreted as SPECK (or Rogers).
<http://www.colonialcdbooks.com/Wises-1912-O.html>OHAU, Wellington. An old
Maori settlement, 56 miles by rail from Wellington City, four miles from
coast, and three miles from Levin. Wool, cattle, dairying, and sawmilling.
Good quail and pheasant shooting; good fishing in rivers and
creeks—Californian and salmon trout. Fairly good roads. Has no hotels. In
Horowhenua County. Post and telephone office. Mails daily.*
*A pretty little native church.*
*From:* Helen Carter < helen.carter28(a)yahoo.com>
*Subject:* [nz] Ohau & Levin
*Date:* Sun, 31 Aug 2014 02:41:58 -0700
found 2 newspaper articles of a wedding in 1909
1 says at St. Stephen's church, Ohau
the other says at Levin
both say the brides father Mr J Hurley is of Ohau
It would have been a catholic church
Are Ohau and Levin the same place, I've tried googling with no luck, hoping
a local resident can sort me out, I was looking for a photo of the church
I've found 2 newspaper articles of a wedding in 1909
1 says at St. Stephen's church, Ohau
the other says at Levin
both say the brides father Mr J Hurley is of Ohau
It would have been a catholic church
Are Ohau and Levin the same place, I've tried googling with no luck, hoping a local resident can sort me out, I was looking for a photo of the church
A baby boy named Christopher John HARPER was born in Tauranga, NZ, in
1960 and immediately adopted out. Birth family would like to make
contact if possible.
Does any lister know about this person? Please contact me off-list.
This is our friends Great Grandfather - James Ingram born Ireland, arrived NZ 1875, married Mary Young, Sept 1876 Papakura, lived Tuakau,
died 1881 hospital, have got his death cert but unfortunately does not tell us where he is buried.
where or how to find his burial is what we are trying to do.
(His widow with two young sons remarried abt 1883, she is buried with 2nd husband at Mangapai.
Thought you might be interested in this if you have relations across the
ditch, particularly NSW.
Some 1200 men and women from the Southern Highlands served in WW1. These
will be commemorated in the Southern Highlands 1200 Exhibition curated by
the Berrima District Historical & Family History Soc that will open in early
April 2015 at the Society¹s Museum in Berrima. Many of these 1200 are
currently listed on the www.sh1200.org website, a searchable website that
links their records to the National Archives of Australia.¹
In a continuing soggy Sydney
Hi,I have FTM 2014 with over 80,000 names and have been trying to do a Kinship report of the whole database but it never completes it.
Has anyone been able to do this? Can it be done or is my programme not working properly.
Any help greatly appreciated.
I hope that some kind person can assist me in identifying any descendants of
my grandmother's brother, John Hayes who may be still living in New Zealand.
His father, Jeremiah Hayes, born 19th March 1833 at Drumbane, Co. Tipperary,
died 2nd March 1870, in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.
His mother, Winifred Hayes (nee Fogarty), born at Drumbane, Co. Tipperary
13th December 1829 , died 20th March 1918, in Kensington, Melbourne,
Following the death of Jeremiah in 1870, Winifred remarried to Michael
Hayes, the cousin of Jeremiah. His step-father, Michael Hayes, died 26th
August 1917, in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.
John Hayes, born at Warrenheip, Victoria, Australia 7th December 1865, was
recorded on his mother's death certificate as 52 years, living, at the time
of his mother's death, 20th March 1918.
John Hayes emigrated to New Zealand circa 1900. He married Ann Veronica
Sullivan circa 1901, had about 8 children , resided in Westport, NZ, died
7th January 1929 and was buried in Orowaiti Old Cemetery.
DEATH CERTIFICATE DETAILS
Given name: John Jeremiah
Date of death: 7 January 1929
Place of death: Denniston (hospital)
Cause of death: Acute erysipelas of face and head - 4 days
Acute pulmonary congestion - 9 days
Failing heart cardiac syncope - 10 years
Cardiac syncope - 30 seconds
Certifying Doctor: P.W.Menzies
Last seen alive: 6 January 1929
Age: 63 years
Place of birth: Warrenheip, Victoria
Number of years in NZ: 32 years
Usual occupation: secretary
Date of burial: 9 January 1929
Place of burial: Orawaiti Cemetery, Westport, NZ
Age of each living daughter: 27, 17, 7
Age of each living son: 25, 24, 23, 21, 9
Mother: Winifred HAYES
Mother's name at birth: FOGERTY
Father: Jeremiah HAYES
Age of spouse at death: 35
Place of marriage: Addisons
Given name: Ann
I would appreciate any assistance in identifying the descendants of my great
uncle, John (Jeremiah) Hayes.
Re the death of Pte J A N Hanna on 27 Feb 1922, though war-related the the
CWGC or Commonwealth War Graves Commission has a cutoff date of 31 Aug 1921
(order in council declaring war over) for regarding his death as a wardeath.
But the 1924 NZ Defence Department red book "The Great War Roll of Honour"
has deaths up to 31 December 1923, and they should be in the Cenotaph
database. PS: the CWGC WWII cutoff date is 31 Dec 1947 (the commission
selected a convenient date, as different dates for various axis powers). The
commission used the earliest date if there was a range of possible death
dates eg 19 December for 19-25 December.
PS: Re WWII veterans, the Institution of Professional Photographers has a
project to take portraits of the c3.000+ surviving veterans of WWII. Most
photographs were taken at RSAs after Anzac Day, but it is not to late to
take part. Contact a RSA re the NZIPP WWII Veteran Portrait Project.
Yours, John Wilson
Subject: [nz] No. 8/403 Private J.A.N. HANAN,Invercargill is not on the CWGC
> His brother d. in NZ from TB acquired during theWW1
> He died in 1922 from his wounds.
> Private James Albert Newton HANAN died after discharge on 26 Feb. 1922.
> James Albert Newton HANAN, railway clerk, Invercargill
> Physical development good 5' 7 1/2, 136 lbs. 24 years of age.
> Serial No. 8/403
> First Known Rank Private
> NoK James Albert Hanan (father), Elles Road, Invercargill
> Marital Status Single
> Enlistment Address Elles Road, Invercargill
> Attested Private 13 Aug. 1914
> Terms of Service: Duration of war.
> Body on Embarkation Main Body
> Embarkation Unit Otago Infantry Regiment, 1st Battalion. 8th Company
> Embarkation Date 16 October 1914
> Place of Embarkation Port Chalmers
> Destination Suez, Egypt
> Embarked for Dardanelles 12 April 1915
> Wounded Dardanelles 6 May 1915 GSW to chest A36, form B213
> Transferred to H.S. Letitia for England
> Admitted 1st Southern Gen. hosp, Edhaston? 20 May 1915 Roll C1755
> Attached to strength NZ ABD Weymouth 16 July 1915 R orders
> Rejoined unit Dardanelles 9 Sept. 1915 B213
> Admitted H.S. Glenart Anzac 28 Spet. 1915 Debility A36
> Adm. NZ General Hospital Fort de Koubbel, Cairo 4 Oct. 1915 103034
> To come Home Adm Aotea Come Home Heliopolis 6 Dec. 1915
> Attached to NZ Base strength 15 Jan. 1916
> 19 Jan. 1916 Rejoined Unit
> Embarked for France from Egypt 6 April 1916. Emb. Roll.
> Wounded in the Somme, France (38165) in the field 27 Sept. 1916. Shrapnel
> pellet lodged in the spinal cord. Both legs paralysed.
> Adm XV C. Dsg Station in the field 27 Sept. 1916
> Adm 38 Cas. Clg. Station 27 Spet. 1916.
> Adm. 1st Cas. Gen. Hospital Etaples. 29 Sept. 1916
> Emb. for England per Hospital Ship Brighton 5 Oct. 1916. GSW back.
> Admitted 1st South Gen. Hospital, Birmingham 6 Oct. 1916. He was operated
> on 4x at Birmingham.
> Transfd. to 2nd NZ Gen H. Walton. 2 April 1917
> Classified unfit by Medical Board 26 April 1917 and placed on NZ Roll
> Embarked for NZ "Marama" from Avonmouth 14 July 1917 Nom Roll.
> Extended on history sheet.
> Last Unit Served Otago Infantry Regiment
> NZ 64 days
> Foreign Service 2 years and 315 days.|
> NZ 53 days.
> Discharge on longer physically fit for war service on account of wounds
> received in action.
> Discharge No. 10101. (18 Oct. 1917)
> Address Mont___tte Home, Dunedin.
> GSW back paraplegia, at present Dunedin Hospital. Remarks. No sensation in
> left leg. Further treatment here.
> Discharged 1st Aug. 1918.
> Place of Death New Zealand
> Date of Death 27 February 1922
> Age at Death 32
> Cause of Death Died of wounds
> Cemetery Name St John's Cemetery, Durham Street, Waikiwi, Invercargill
> Grave Reference Block 3. Section IA
> Telegram dated 18 Sept. 1917 Dunedin
> To Health Dept. Wellington
> .... 8/403 Hanan JA ....
> In patients Dunedin Hospital can be boarded as soon as possible under
> section 1203 Returned Soldiers' handbook
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On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:56 PM, mhhr via <new-zealand(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
> I would appreciate help on the capabilities of this ship which was part of
> the Thames Expedition during the New Zealand Land Wars.
> It is said that the she shelled Maori villages with loss of life, prior to
> the landing of nearly 1000 troops in the area of the Firth of Thames now
> known as Miranda.
> The ship was around 65m long with a draft of almost 5m.
> She had 14 x 32 pound guns and 1x 68 pound pivot gun.
> She was designed as a fully rigged ship but had a single screw steam
> engine installed after construction commenced.
> My questions are as below.
> 1/. what range would her guns be effective at and how accurate at that
> 2/. in what depth of water would she prudently operate given a tidal range
> of up to 3.5m.
> My suspicion is that water depth would result in her being too far off
> shore for her guns to be of tactical use but probably effective for
> scarying the locals.
> Any comments appreciated.
> Murray Reid
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Further to my earlier posting.
It is reported that the Miranda Pinnace retaliated with rockets when fired at when it entered a navigable stream near the proposed landing site for the toops.
How large would a pinnace be and how many men were likely aboard. How many oars?
What type of rockets would it have fired and what range or accuracy would these have?
I would appreciate help on the capabilities of this ship which was part of the Thames Expedition during the New Zealand Land Wars.
It is said that the she shelled Maori villages with loss of life, prior to the landing of nearly 1000 troops in the area of the Firth of Thames now known as Miranda.
The ship was around 65m long with a draft of almost 5m.
She had 14 x 32 pound guns and 1x 68 pound pivot gun.
She was designed as a fully rigged ship but had a single screw steam engine installed after construction commenced.
My questions are as below.
1/. what range would her guns be effective at and how accurate at that range?
2/. in what depth of water would she prudently operate given a tidal range of up to 3.5m.
My suspicion is that water depth would result in her being too far off shore for her guns to be of tactical use but probably effective for scarying the locals.
Any comments appreciated.
Wondering if there is a G Whitmore, New Zeland, on either of these lists.
Could he/she please contact me regarding family members listed on My Heritage as I do not have a good feeling in my waters about signing up to this site.
Looking forward to making contact.
Tks & rgds