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A snipping from the Lyttelton Times vol 1 no 1, Jan 11 1851.
During the afternoon of Sunday last, the 5th instant, an accident,
fortunately unattended with any serious results, occurred to one of the
boats of the Sir George Seymour. A large party, consisting of Mr. and Mrs.
J. C. Watts Russell, Mr. Wilkinson the surgeon of that ship, and three maid
servants, were returning on board from attending Divine Service. A squally
breeze form N. E. was blowing at the time, and, through some mismanagement
of the junior officer in charge of the boat, she capsized while attempting
to wear, after missing stays, under the stern of the Cressy. Boats were
quickly lowered from all the vessels, and the whole party were most happily
rescued, after having been for some minutes in imminent danger. We are happy
to state that, with the exception of some fatigue, no inconvenience has
resulted to any of the party.
John Rayner ô¿ô
Newcastle Australia (ex pukekohe nz)
To: anyone who has research interests in Canada-
I am forwarding this message from Gordon Watts regarding:
" a petition to the Hon. Senator Lorna Milne who is
preparing to work on OUR behalf to get us access to post 1901 Census
information. The posting below has been put out by someone on another
knows Senator Milne and worked with her in developing the petition
below. The hope is to get a substantial number of petitions sent to
support her in OUR quest to gain access to post 1901 census
information. This is extremely important to ALL genealogists who
have roots in Canada, regardless of where they are living now. PLEASE
respond by sending the petition in to the e-mail address shown in the
posting below. Don't forget to add your own interests and comments,
while keeping it down to a single page. If you subscribe to other
lists having Canadian interests please forward this posting to them.
THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!! -- IF WE DO NOT LET OUR FEELINGS KNOWN
NOW WE MAY NEVER SEE ANOTHER CANADA CENSUS RELEASED!!!! THE SENATE
RECONVENES AFTER EASTER. PLEASE SEND YOUR PETITION NOW!!!
If you wish to send additional information to Senator Milne her email
address is milnel(a)sen.parl.gc.ca . She also has a website at
Gordon A. WATTS
Port Coquitlam, British Columbia
I have gone to find myself.
If I get back before I return,
Please ask me to wait.
To all Family Researchers who depend on Canadian Census Records:
I have been requested by The Hon. Lorna Milne, Senator, to get a
petition going so she will have added backing in her fight, on our
behalf, to obtain release of Post-1901 Canadian Census Records.
Forward, one page only, the following paragraph, complete with
YOUR personal comments, your city/town, families being researched
and the areas of Canada. Send to <Farquhar(a)netcom.ca> (Muriel
P E T I T I O N
Family researchers, attempting to complete their family roots,
depend greatly on Canadian census records even though these are only
released at 10-year intervals. These records help the genealogist
research his/her ancestors to form a picture of the past. Since many
church denominations are sealing records, as well as the government
withholding the census, how are we able to learn our personal roots.
We are concerned over the prospect of not being permitted to gain
access to the 1911 and subsequent census records 92 years after the
taking of those censuses in accordance with the provisions in Section
of the Privacy Regulations.
WE do not need to know financial status or other personal data.
WE support the initiative of Senator Lorna Milne in introducing a Bill
in the Senate which would lead to the restoration of our rights to see
all census records.
Tourism is a major factor in genealogical research -- people want to
visit their roots.
I have checked a book, "The Streets of my City - Wellington New Zealand" by
F.L. Irvine-Smith; first published in 1948 and reprinted in 1967. A H & A W
Reed, Publishers. It describes the origins of the names of the various
streets of Wellington that have historic interest.
The following extract will no doubt be of interest about Plimmer's Steps:
"Mr John Plimmer (1812-1887), who gave early Wellington one of its colourful
touches when he purchased in 1850 the hull of the wrecked "Inconstant" which
ran aground at Barrett Reef, towed it to the shore, and converted it into a
warehouse (Noah's Ark) with a wharf for a front path, [sic] was a useful and
practical member of the Provincial Council. He resided at the head of
Plimmer's Steps, where he held away until an advanced age as "The Father of
Plimmer's Steps now provides access from Lambton Quay, some distance from
the harbour, to Bulcott St, where Plimmer's house still stands.
I trust that this is of some use as well as interest.
Researching EVES - William Eves, son of John Eves and Margaret Durnien of
Kesh, County Fermanagh, Ireland emigrated to New Zealand c 1870 and died in
1919. I believe he went out with a group from the Omagh area of County Tyrone
organised by a man named Stewart to an area in North Island. He married Amelia
******* ? and had seven children including Clement who had children, Dorothy
Amelia, Zena, William Alfred and Patricia Maud. I would appreciate any help. I
am a retired headmaster whoes mother was Mae Eves.
HI to All,
looking for anyone interested in the name Lawson. The family I am after
came from Scotland into Hampshire. The family immigrated to New Zealand and
then on to Australia.
Details as follows
Robert Lawson married Susan Allen 1835 Micheldever, Hampshire, England.
They came to New Zealand about 1842 Shipping not known. They had 4 children
with them - Andrew born 1836 Hampshire, Jabez who died in New Zealand 1851,
John born 1838 Hampshire, England and Susan born Hampshire 1841.
Mary born 1843 New Zealand, Robert born New Zealand, Alfred born
1847 New Zealand, William born 1848 Wellington?, Elizabeth born 1850
Wellington, Alfred born 1852 Wellington, and Emma born Victoria Australia.
I feel this family were there in New Zealand with relatives of some kind but
who I don't know.
Robert Lawson Snr parents were Andrew Lawson and Jane Cunnigham.
Good morning to you all, Is anybody interested in forming a USA Interest
Group internet or not or both, there is no group around covering this
and each of us searches different ereas collecting info which may be of
help to others. This research is different to the UK so how about it?
Just resubmitting an earlier request about this family as I had no response.
I don't have much to go on as this relates to the adoption of my grandmother
and there are no living relatives who know anything about it.
Did Joseph McFALL & Mary GOLDING (m 1880) have any other children apart from
Mary Ellen McFALL (b 1883 in Rangiora)?
Are there details of when they died?
Are there any marriages for a Mary Ellen McFALL in New Zealand after 1903?
Or a death?
Is there a marriage for a Thomas Leahy and Annie Cecelia ??? around the
early 1900's? Adoptive parents of my grandmother. Or a birth/death?
I have received the marriage certificate of Joseph and Mary McFall with no
additional information available about these families.
Spa Centre of Australia
I have just received a death certificate for John William WILSON
who is possibly my ggggrandfather (not enough information to
confirm it yet). Right age and right place. Invercargill not gaol. : )
He died 5th April 1880 in Invercargill Gaol.
Occupation: Cook & Steward
Cause: Verdict of Coroner's Jury - Angina.
Buried: Eastern Cemetery.
Where can I access more information? Addresses please.
Gaol records - for crime committed and next of kin.
Newspaper of the day.
On line or Postal address of Eastern Cemetery.
(can not find it in online phone book)
Any other suggestions welcome.
A further extract from the Lyttelton Times vol 1 no 1, Jan 11 1851.
This is the last voyage account in this edition, however there are other
snippets that you may be interested in which I will post at a latter date.
The Cressy, On the morning of Sept. 4th, 1850, the barque Cressy, J. D.
Bell, master, left Gravesend, and was towed down the river. She sailed down
the Channel, was nearly becalmed off the Isle of Wight, and did not drop
anchor in Plymouth Sound before 3 in the morning of Sept. 7. At midnight she
left Plymouth, and had an excellent run out of the Channel. On the 10th she
was almost clear of the Bay of Biscay, the nearest land being Corunna, the
antipodes of Lyttelton but far from her. Five days of very light winds
succeeded, and on the 18th we made Madeira, and passed to the westward of
it, on the 20th made Palma and Teneriffe. On the morning of the 26th made S.
Antonio, passed to the west of all the islands, and ran as far as 26 26
west. We had no N. E. trades, and on the 30th, after crossing the parallel
of 10 north, met a breeze from the southward, were fifteen days beating
against it, and at length crossed the line in about 25 west. The S. E. trade
came more and more from the eastward, and the extreme westing of the ship
was 32 54 on the 24th October, in lat. 20 51 south. For five days made a
course nearly due south, then began to make some easting with strong and
fair winds. We passed above 60 degrees to the north of Tristan d Acunha,
sighting the snowy summit of the mountain over the clouds on November 6.
>From the 3rd to the 8th made little way, and then commenced a good run. From
Nov. 9 to Dec. 5 ran down 100 degrees of longitude between the parallels of
37 30 and 40 south, passing about six miles to the southward of St. Pauls
on Dec. 1. After a good run, found ourselves in lat. 47 30 south, 162 43
east, on Dec. 21 and stood on between the Snares and Traps, had no sight on
the 22nd of 23rd, but rough and bad weather. Made land on the evening of the
23rd, and stood more to the north.
Made Cape Molyneux on the 24th, stood out for Banks Peninsula, and at last
anchored in Port Victoria before noon on the 27th of December, being 110
days from Plymouth Sound. The fore top mast having been badly sprung south
of the Cape will account in a great measure for the length of the passage,
no confidence could be placed in it, the fore topsail was reefed whenever
the breeze freshened. The ship has now landed 200 emigrants, two who were
brought aboard in a most sickly state did not survive many days. One child
was born as we entered the Pacific. During the greater part of the passage
it was necessary to watch one gentleman and keep him under constant
restraint, his mind being evidently deranged, and he has been safely landed,
as we would fain hope, in a better state of mind.
Such is a rough sketch of the Cressys passage, and the melancholy event
which cast a gloom over our little party. The details of many incidents,
which are faithfully recorded in the Cressy Times would have little
interest for the general reader. We were dull at Gravesend, the dinner given
to the emigrants was followed by too many parting scenes to allow any
merriment, and it was with gloomy thoughts and low spirits that one
passenger at least took possession of a comfortable cabin aboard the Cressy
. But when the ship dropped down the river, the feeling of being afloat had
its usual exhilarating influence, the ties of old England were forgotten by
the least sanguine, as they cherished the prospect of a better country.
There was little time for these contending emotions. One new feeling soon
absorbed all others. We rounded N. Foreland, and sentiment gave way to sea
sickness. What a spectacle does an emigrant ship present on such occasions,
and how particularly dismal was the Cressy with her youthful family of
ninety! But the distress was temporary. In a few days after touching at
Plymouth we were on the broad Atlantic with the wonders of the ocean before
us, and few, if any, of our passengers viewed them with indifference.
We passed near Madeira in most lovely weather, and were equally fortunate
off the Canaries, having a clear view of the distant peak. On the 30th a
boat from H. M. Brig Mariner boarded us and took our letters home. In a
few days the Bank agent, who had been the most lively guest at the cuddy
table shewed great excitement, and a fixed antipathy to one of the
passengers. On Oct. 9, it became necessary to secure him, and for some weeks
he was watched by his fellow passengers. As he became less violent, his wife
was enabled to stay with him, and under her control he has become quite. But
one feeling of sympathy exists for the lady under so sudden and awful a
visitation. We had little merriment to welcome Neptune when we crossed the
line, but fair winds in south latitudes soon put us in good humour with our
vessel. All became nautical, and the passenger who did not know the ships
longitude, and the distance run daily, was viewed with some contempt by his
companions. We had sights of the sun nearly every day until we neared our
new country, but thick weather, when we most needed a clear sky, for two
successive days, a bad specimen of our future climate. How wretched was the
longest day! the how variable the weather - reefed topsails at nine, the
ship becalmed at noon! in short we took the English privilege of a good
growl. But we had reason to be most thankful for the escape of a
midshipman, who fell overboard when a high sea was running. A boat was
lowered, and he was picked up a long way astern, we did not know that he had
been saved, until we saw him nearly lifeless in the boat on its return. We
spent Christmas day most pleasantly at sea, and on the 27th came into Port
Victoria with as good grace as the last in a race can shew to his
Two circumstances may have contributed to preserve the general health on
board the Cressy. The ship was not becalmed in the tropics, and in the
hottest part of the world the foul breeze which delayed her was too strong
to allow any great heat to be felt on board. Again, the captain deserves our
thanks for consulting the health and comfort of his passengers in not
running further to the southward, when a shorter passage might have been
made in colder latitude.
- - ends The Cressy. - -
Newcastle Australia (ex Pukekohe NZ)
Researching ANDERSON, ANDREWS, McLAREN, RAYNER, SANDAG(G)ER, NICOL, in
HIRST, RAYNER, in the Yorkshire, Northumberland and Cheshire areas.
FRANTZEN, FREMMING, SANDAGER in the Odense and kobenhaven areas Denmark.
ANDERSON, ANDREWS, FERGUSON, LITTLEJOHN, MCLAREN, NICOL, TROUGH, WATT in
RICHARDSON in Quebec, Canada.
Hi everybody I am new on this list can anybody help with these names.
Florence Edith EVANS m. Donald McLELLAN 30th.Dec 1896 Napier.
Children we think!
Cora Cheyne 1898 Napier
Elsie Winifred 1902 Napier
Marjorie Playstead 1906 Napier
Kenneth Corrick 1908 Napier
Marjorie Playstead mx2 1927 and 1936
Can anybody help here. Toni.
You might like to try the Presbyterian Archives here in Dunedin:
Failing that, the archivists at First Church (Dunedin), Knox Church
(Dunedin) or the Early Settlers Museum may be able to help you... Holler
if you need more details...
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Now living in Courtenay, British Columbia, Canada (On Vancouver Island)
Both Gerald & Shirley originally from Carterton, Wellington, New Zealand
RESEARCHING (Direct line ancestry):
Australia:HUXLEY, LAIDLAW, LEE, LINTON, PLUNKETT, WHITE.
Scotland:(Borders)ANDERSON., ARMSTRONG, BURNETT, HOGG,
KNOX, LAIDLAW, LINTON, SCOTT, STEVENSON, STODDART
Canada:(Ontario)HUNTER, LEWIS, LINTON, PAGE, PATERSON, PATTERSON
England:(Dorset)ALLEN, COMBEN, PEARCE, STONE, SWEET, WHITE,
New Zealand:BOWLES, COVENTRY, CURTIS, HILDRETH, WILTON
Scotland:(Borders)CHAPMAN, GRADEN, MESSER, RIDDELL, ROBSON, SCOTT, WILSON
England(Devon)DENMAN, LONG, TURNER
England:(Kent)ANDERSON, BOWLES, GRAY
England:(Somerset)CHAFFEY, GOODLAND, SPRACKETT, WILTON
England:(Surrey)CURTIS, WIGGS, WOODLEY
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I have just visited the site, no password needed. Although it is early days
yet the site has stacks of information and can only get better. The link
will be added to my homepages shortly. In the meantime the URL is :
Hope this will be of interest and help to all.
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I wonder if any kind person has access to the Rev. Thomas Burns Visitation
Books for 1848-1858. I am looking for information on John Dickson and his
family who arrived in Otago on the Three Bells 1858.I have information on
the Johnstons who came out with him but not for John Dickson. Any help
Lola Wilson. Queensland
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Date: Tuesday, 30 March 1999 14:26
Subject: NEW-ZEALAND-D Digest V99 #51
> I believe that my great grandfather Thomas Johnson may have
>worked at the Port of Opunake in the early 1900's as a Tallyman - are there
>any records available which might confirm this and where would I find them.
>Thanks in anticipation
> Can anyone help please with information on the above -
>been led to believe the immigrants may have landed at such a place
>c 1875-1880. Any information on Plimmers Steps and available records of
>people landing there appreciated.
>Thanks in anticipation
I wanted to mention a couple of excellent online sources of
information. I hope they may be unknown and useful to some on the
list. My home province in Canada, British Columbia, has an excellent
search engine which will give a lot of details on Births, Deaths and
Marriages in BC, as well as the reference numbers you need to see the
microfilms of the actual records. I suggest you start at this address
for suggestions on what to do when you find someone's records:
Then click on the BC Archives link and choose Vital Events. You'll
notice that the Birth section is not up and running yet but should be
in the next couple of months. If you've had family members who came
from or disappeared to BC, you may find them there.
The other one that I think is great and getting greater all the time
is the Australian first families 2001 page at:
British Columbia, Canada
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MOORE Harry;Gisborne NZL
I am trying to trace the descendants of Harry MOORE, who was a farmer in
the Gisborne district of Turanga early this century.
Harry MOORE had a sister named Bertha? MOORE.
His niece Mabel Matilda MOORE was born in Palmerston South, N.Z. and was
living in Turanga, Gisborne 1887-89.
Mabel MOORE married William Goodman.
Mabel had 2 children, Effie born 22/2/1888 and Cecil
Seymour born 19/6/1889.
Mabel GOODMAN died in 1890.
The children were adopted, (Effie by the Brookings and Cecil by the
Hoping that this message reaches a descendant of Harry MOORE's.
'Passenger Lists Victoria, Australia Outwards to NZ - Part 3 1866-1870?'
The reason I'm asking is I'm trying all avenues to track down my (very)
elusive gr gr grandparents arrival in New Zealand....I've checked/kind
people have checked the inward passenger indexes UK to Auckland,
Lyttleton, Wellington...no joy....
I'm just wondering if this lot:
John & Fanny (Frances) O'DONNELL, their children John, Ann, James,
Fanny's mother Ann GALLAGHER and Fanny's brother James GALLAGHER (there
may be a few more or a few less in that list, but they would have
had gone to Australia first (as old family history has it) then gone to
New Zealand - Kaikoura, in fact.....I know they were in Kaikoura by
December 1870, because a son was born to them then.....and they left
Donegal Ireland between 1868/70....
Any help appreciated!!
Lindel (Kiwi in Oz but going home soon)
Does anyone know anything about the above book?
Is it a publication that is worthy of note?
Does anyone out there have a copy?
Just thought I'd ask before I go dashing off to the library.
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