Dear Sharon and Warren,
You folks are two of my favorite folks and you have both done some
enviable work. I'm proud to be associated with you both.
Also, I believe I am older than both of you. My heart, thoughts and
prayers go out to you concerning health (and other) issues.
I am familiar with genealogical societies. Our local society compiled
nine volumes of cemeteries. As a member of the society, I took it on
my own to create a full-name index for the series. My intention was
to present it to the society so they could sell it. Instead, when
they discovered that I was in the process of compiling an index, they
sent me a registered letter, threatening to sue me for copyright
infringement. My first action was to resign from the society and then
to complete the index, giving a copy to both libraries in the county
and placing the entire index on the web. There! I have yet to be sued
and that was eight years ago.
Cheers,
--Derick
(or as Paul Buckley calls me: "The Old Fart")
At 12:09 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote:
Warren
I am sorry about your illness, and believe me I know that limits
sometimes.........I am 62 years old, and have stage 4 breast
cancer, so yes I know.
So the genealogical society, has done all the cems?---Old ?records,
including cems are in the Public Domain, but it costs
money to get the books and it takes a LOT of time to transcribe info
off of microfilm (have done that)..........?
And I do know what it is to have to "cross swords" with genealogical
societies.........been there done that several times.
The whole goal?of the USGenWeb, and always has been is for
researchers to be able to have?access to FREE genealogy.
You write that you won't give up Johnston County and that you can't
put up info, because everybody else has done all of it,
but you are looking forward to going back to work at the Heritage
Center..........isn't Johnston Co NCGen as important as the Heritage
Center???????
So what if someone transcribed a cemetery in Johnston County, and
offered it to you to put on the site?? Would you tell them to put it
in the Archives, or better yet, you can't take it because the
genealogical society had already done it ?????
Sharon
-----Original Message-----
From: Warren T. Bagley <wtbagley(a)nc.rr.com>
To: ncgenweb-discuss(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 8:28 am
Subject: [NCGENWEB-DISCUSS] New data, transcribing and trouble
I am against any requirement to add new data to our sites. I think
every county
is different and must be considered.
In my case, Johnston County. Johnston was very big and an early
county in the
state formation. The genealogical society has been transcribing for
more than
40 years. And for more than 15 years we have a Heritage Center that
is probably
one of the best in the US. They to have been transcribing like crazy. If you
have ever heard of Wynette Hawn, she has transcribed an unbelievable
amount of
Johnston record. I to have put a lot of data on my site in the
past but it's
so hard to find something that fits and does not step on other toes. The
genealogical society has surveyed and published over 1000
cemeteries. Even all
our deed have been abstracted from 1746 to over 1850. And I have
personally put
up 7 census years (1784 to 1840) even though the county is very large.
I live in the county and try to always keep it a win win
situation. I have to
deal with the genealogical society, heritage center, and lots of individual
transcribers and publisher . It's sort of hard to transcribe data that is
already available online or already published. I try to promote
them all and in
every case the researcher is a big winner in Johnston County.
I hate to mention it but I probably should. I have been in very
poor health and
it's difficult for me to discuss the current matters on this list. No Diane,
don't suggest that I put up my county for adaption like you so easily like to
do. I think your goal was to run Sandy out of the project and now you've run
Elizabeth off. You'd much rather have a new person that follows you in the
counties. I mention the poor health because I have personally helped many a
researcher at the Heritage Center. I am not currently doing it because of my
condition. Sandy and Elizabeth were doing a lot for their county. I am and
have too. I am trying to get my health better and go back to helping there.
I have not seen any good leadership from you.
Sure lots of things need to be
done. We have a lot of sleepy counties and always will have. You are never
going to change that. You are going to force your way into it all. You said
you had been even cussed at. I sure would not do that but I understand why a
lot of people have gotten upset with you.
I know some of you want all the records on our sites and free. It
"ain't" going
to happen. You better wish you had ancestors in Johnston
County. It don't take
long for a researcher to choke on the volume of easy data to be had here.
And one more thing. I voted for you. Wish I had not. I don't
think Ron would
have upset the people like you have. I am upset that you have made me write
this email. I have waited much too long to reply.
Enough for this email and please excuse my poor writing.
Warren Bagley, CC Johnston County
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