You know, call me crazy (it's been done before), but am I the only person that
considers my site to "belong" to the project? Sure. I have spent my time and
effort on it, but MTGenWeb gave me the core pages when I started. But even if they
hadn't, I still consider what I'm doing as work for this project. If I leave, I
want my work to carry on, and someone to build on it and make it that much better for
those to come. If I leave, it surely won't be to do Madison County somewhere else, so
what would I do with those pages anyway? And, I've put in a lot of time and effort on
the USGenWeb Project that I wouldn't have done if I didn't think believe in it and
want to see it be around for a long time to be a strong resource for new genealogists in
the future.
I will now take off my rose colored glasses and sit down.
Jane
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From: Shirley Cullum <shirlcullum(a)gmail.com>
To: mtgen(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MTGEN] Delinking rule?
First off, what you are referring to as rule 10, is actually a "strong
suggestion" and is not a requirement. My proposal is to make updating once
every 6 months and a last update date on the website a requirement. As
such, it would be listed in the "required" section of the MTGenWeb Policies
page. The "strongly suggested" #10 paragraph would not be modified.
Second, the USGenWeb rules state that a CC has 14 days to correct a problem
before any action is taken. That means that the CC's have 14 days from the
time/date stamp on the email notifying them of a problem to correct it.
After the 14 day time period, the SC can de-link the county website and
remove the CC from the state's membership list if the problem has not been
resolved. I usually send a 2nd reminder after a week if the CC hasn't
replied to my email. Allowances are made for illness and other issues but
it is the CC's responsibility to respond to the SC's email and explain the
situation.
In the instance of a CC who has abandoned a county website, you are
correct. They would not remove logos and that is when the SC files a
copyright infringement claim with the server where the website is housed.
The website is considered to be owned by the CC but the contributed
information is contributed for use on the county website and should remain
with the county no matter who has control of the website.Therefore,
information is considered to be owned by the county or the state project.
Some state projects even have a rule that any information on a county
website may not be removed.
Shirley
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Nancy Thornton <nancetho(a)montana.com>
wrote:
> My vote is still “No” but Karen’s reply is food for thought and opens
> further discussion. Nancy, Teton County
>
> Here goes: One official national rule is
>
> G. The state project shall have the responsibility to remove any links to
> websites which fail to meet The USGenWeb Project/XXGenWeb Project
> established guidelines/standards.
>
>
>
> Moving on to the MTGenWeb Project, our rule 10. says:
>
> IT IS ESSENTIAL that your site be well-maintained and updated as
> frequently as possible. Every site needs to have some basic research
> resources, i.e. Courthouse offices addresses, phone numbers, fees, etc.,
> library, historical society, newspaper, cemetery names & addresses, funeral
> homes, etc. Many have also provided a bibliography page showing reference
> books available for their county and much more. Your site needs to be
> checked often for bad links, new ideas, etc., and the update "date"
> changed. We do check these and inquire of county coordinators if we find
> sites that have not been updated within a month or so. If you are ill,
> going on vacation, or having some temporary problems, the State Coordinator
> would like to know and, of course, we make exceptions for those times.
>
>
>
> So here is the state coordinator’s nomination for a new rule:
>
> The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is:
>
>
>
> All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 months
>
> and must have the last update date on the website.
>
>
>
>
>
> So let’s have a discussion on where this possible new sentence will appear
> in the wording of our rules. Do we amend rule 10?
>
>
>
> Karen also suggested that delinking would occur with noncompliance, but we
> don’t have a due process rule for that. Does the SC give the CC a warning,
> a nag, three warnings, three nags? Also, if that CC has really abandoned
> the site, he or she would not bother to remove the official logos.
>
>
>
> And another thing, the national rule says, D. If a Local Coordinator can
> no longer perform their duties for any reason, those sections of the
> website submitted or donated by contributors other than the website
> coordinator, shall remain with the website, unless the
> submitter(s)/contributor(s) indicates otherwise.
>
>
>
> So the county website might not be “owned” completely by the CC. That’s
> another sticky wicket.
>
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