At 7:43 pm +0000 29/02/04, Geoff Clegg wrote:
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However some of the entries in the IGI for Magor do not seem to follow this
pattern. The batch number is C085691 therefore they are not Patron entries.
In all these cases the child's surname seems to be different to the father's
surname. For example:
25 Dec 1758 - Margaret Roberts, father Robert Hughes
25 Feb 1794 - Charles Roberts, father Robert Thomas, mother Margaret
2 Jan 1807 - Elizabeth Roberts, father Robert Jones, mother Elizabeth
14 June 1807 - Hannah Roberts, father Robert Charlton, mother Iddy
4 June 1810 - Rachel Roberts, father Robert Jones, mother Elizabeth
8 July 1811 - Uriah Roberts, father Robert Charlton, mother Iddy
The person that I am interested in is in the last example (Uriah Roberts).
Is his father named Robert Charlton or Robert Charlton Roberts? Any help
would be appreciated.
Geoff
From 1 January 1813 the established church started to use a standard
printed baptism register with a column for the parents' surname.
When the IGI was started in 1968, it was decided that ALL baptisms in
Wales before 1 January 1813 would be entered with the father's GIVEN
name as the child's 'surname' in the surname index. The above cut-off
date was applied to IGI entries irrespective of whether the parents
were actually following the Welsh patronymic naming system or had
adopted fixed English-style surnames.
In the IGI on microfiche there is a 'Surname Index' and a 'Given Name
Index' for each Welsh county BUT in the online version there is no
corresponding 'Given Name' field, only a 'Surname' field.
Suppose, William, the son of John and Mary Thomas was baptised in
1812 (or earlier), then he would appear thus:
In the Given Name Index (indexed under William)
William (son of) John Thomas / Mary
In the Surname Index (indexed under John - his father's given name)
John, William (son of) John Thomas / Mary
However, if baptised in 1813 (or later) he would appear thus:
In the Given Name Index (indexed under William)
William (son of) John Thomas / Mary
In the Surname Index (indexed under Thomas - his father's surname)
Thomas, William (son of) John Thomas / Mary
The indexers rigidly followed the rule in the vast majority of cases
but there are instances where some pre-1813 baptisms have been
indexed under the 'correct' surname!
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Regards
Dick Jones Leigh-on-Sea Essex UK
rcjones(a)rmplc.co.uk