Hello List members,
Thanks Mike, Jane and Molly for your replies and suggestions re
Elizabeth Jenner nee Watkins and her father John Watkin(s).
Molly's comment about a possible connection between Abergavenny and
Lewes is a very interesting one. At her marriage to William Jenner in
Brighton in 1819, Elizabeth's name was recorded as "Elizabeth Shiffner
Shelley Watkins" which has always struck me as a rather grand name for
the daughter of a shoemaker/cordwainer. Do the names Shiffner Shelley
suggest anything to anyone?
Regards
Eric Kopittke
in Brisbane
On 23/09/2008, at 5:00 PM, monmouthshire-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:14:15 +0100
From: "monnow13" <molly(a)monnow13.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [MON] Watkins from Monmouth; Abergavenny - Lewes
Connection
Hello Eric,
I agree it looks like Lingal and I'm sorry I can't help with that. What
interests me is the Monmouthshire / Lewes connection. In my tree I
have a
Richard PHILLIPS born in Lewes in 1803. By 1806 his parents Richard and
Susannah were in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire where a removal order was
made
in respect of Susannah's illegitimate daughter Ann DUNFORD sending her
back
to Lewes. I suspect Richard senior was born in Abergavenny and I have
found
a probable baptism. Whilst checking the Abergavenny records I also
spotted
the following baptism:
1 May 1810 Elizth (born at Lewes 13 Aug 1805) d/o ye above Edward &
Mary
WATERS, Monk Street.
So, there definitely seems to be some migration between Abergavenny &
Lewes.
I would be interested if anyone can suggest a reason. I have wondered
whether it has anything to do with the fact that the principle estate
of the
Lords Abergavenny is in Sussex. Did people move from working on one
estate
to another?
If you look at Abergavenny baptisms for the 1770s you will find plenty
of
WATKINS but it is a common surname. However, the following might be of
interest:
23 May 1773 John s/o John & Mary WATKINS, Mill Street.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/
abergavenny/ba
ps07/aberbaps158.jpg
I know it doesn't explain "Lingal" but it's a reference that might be
worth
filing away.
Regards,
Molly