Hello Clare & List,
Wendy here - South African, living in San Francisco.
My great-great grandmother was Catherine Lawler, born in Banagher, King's Country,
Ireland on 5 September 1837, married my great-great-grandfather, George Willett (born
Colchester), and they went to South Africa (I don't know when). I have never managed
to find much information on Catherine, despite having her birth date - no birth or baptism
record. It didn't help that I don't have her mother's name, and wasn't
even sure that her father's name, Daniel was correct, plus that's such a common
Irish man's name!
I thought I'd put this information in this email, since it's been awhile that
I've reached out to the list, and one never knows if there are new members or new
sources of information out there.
Anyway, whilst I unfortunately can't offer any help with your Lawlers', one thing
caught my eye in your email. I am curious how or where you found out that they moved from
Ireland to Wales, London, South Africa, NZ and Australia. Are you referring to this one
family that are "your" Lawlers', or different branches of the Lawler
family? I haven't ever been successful searching ships records, so I'd love to
know what your resource was.
Would appreciate hearing back from you, and anyone who can maybe help me with my
Lawler/Willett.
In the meantime, I am mulling, and if I think of another avenue for you, I'll pass it
along.
Thanks, and regards,Wendy
From: Clare Dubay via <monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com>
To: MONMOUTHSHIRE(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:30 AM
Subject: [MON] Lawler family
I am sending this request to both the Glamorgan and Monmouthshire List.
Currently I am researching an Irish Catholic family named Lawler, who spent
approximately 10 years in Wales after leaving Ireland: that was before they
moved on to London, South Africa, New Zealand and eventually, Australia.
Having hit the 'brick wall' with my research in Wales, I am hoping that
someone can give me some more help. (I have had good leads from the list
before.)
James and Esther (Essie) Lawler appear on the 1851 census of Cwmdare, living
at Penywaun with their sons Michael, 5 (born in Dublin) and John, 2 born in
Aberdare. James is described as an 'excavator of iron mine'.
I am very keen to find a record of the next son born, Hugh, as this was my
grandfather: Hugh was probably born in 1854, possibly in Monmouthshire. I
cannot find any record of his birth or christening. On his marriage
certificate, it states that Hugh was born in Penrith, Wales. I assume this
to be a misrepresentation of Penarth: are there any other possibilities?
Being RC, it follows that John and Hugh were christened soon after birth.
Following on from information given to me previously, I have been looking
for baptism records from the few RC churches in Glamorgan and Monmouthshire
at the time, but with no luck so far.
Would there be any school records that I could search for Michael?
Would there be any records of employment available to search?
The family had moved on to London by the end of 1856. But I can find no
record of father James, and the two eldest sons, Michael and John, on the
1861 census in London. I did find a John Sawlor on the Glamorgan census of
that year. In the registration district of Merthyr Tydfil, parish of
Merthyr Tydfil, sub-district Merthyr Tydfil, there is 12 year old John
Sawlor. Could somebody please identify the rest of the household for me?
I would be grateful for any suggestions that you can make, as I am running
out of ideas.
Thanking you
Clare in Victoria, Australia
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