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I have received some welcome and very good information from people on
this list. But I have a question on the marriage of my g grandfather.
The marriage was solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of
Llanhileth in the County of Monmouth. They were married by James
Hughes, Rector. I found out that he was a well know minister. Is this
the actual name of the church? I would like to find a picture of it.
Thanks, Mary
Western Mail Wednesday June 25th 1924.
Before the Trellech (Monmouthshire) magistrates on Tuesday, William, Arthur, and John LIGHT, labourer living with their parents at The Beacons, Trellech, were summoned by their father, Albert LIGHT, and Albert LIGHT was summoned by his wife, Catherine, for assault.
Albert LIGHT alleged that, on reaching home late at night, he was set upon by his sons in the darkness, and hit until he could not crawl. Afterwards his wife appeared with a light, and putting her foot on him, incited the sons to kill him.
The defence of the sons, was that the father first attacked the mother.
William LIGHT said his father swore he would kill them all. The father was drunk, burst into the mother's bedroom, and threatened to kill them. Witness was afraid his father would choke his mother, and he (witness) and his brothers struck the father each four times.
Mrs LIGHT said she was in the bedroom with two of her little girls. Her husband accused her of being at Brockweir with her brother-in-law. He grabbed at her, and in the struggle her clothes were set on fire from the candlelight.
Police-constable MAUND said that just before ten o'clock on the night in question, he saw the father, and he was not then under the influence of drink.
The Bench dismissed the cases, and warned all the defendants not to come there again.
Alleging that her life was in danger, Mrs LIGHT then asked for a summons for a seperation order.
The death took place at Northampton House, Llandovery, on Tuesday, of Alderman H. HAVARD. A native of the borough, he was esteemed throughout the town and country for his public services. A boot and shoe maker by trade, he had served continuouously on the Llandovery Town Council for the last twenty-six years, declined the offer of mayoralty offered him in 1903, and was elected an alderman in 1920. He was one of the senior deacons of Tabernacle Methodist Church, and had been superintendent of the children's Sunday school for more than 40 years.
A Penarth youth, named Frederick BADMAN, 16, of 31, Stanwell-place, was turning the corner the corner of Windsor-road, into Hickman-road on a bicycle on Tuesday night, when he fell off the machine in an epiletic fit.
First aid was rendered by Police-sergeant MALLINS and Police-constable KING,and the boy was conveyed to his home in an unconscious state.
Charles Henry PURTON, aged 3 years and ten months, of 36, Dolphin-street, Newport, whilst running across Commercial-road, collided with a bicycle ridden by Frank Fisher 17, of York-place, and was knocked down and had his left arm fractured.
Mr. Lyndon MOORE, of Newport, who was elected president of the Coroners' Society of England and Wales in London on Thursday last, and his suffering from a nervous breakdown, has been advised by his medical attendants to take a complete rest for a time.
John Patrick
Retrospectives: Allt-yr-esgair & the Paragon Tower, BRE; Llanelly, BRE
Dear Listers,
This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are:
1. A walk to the summit of Allt-yr-esgair and an exploration of the
mysterious 'Paragon Tower', in the county of Breconshire (twenty pictures).
This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in May 2002.
2. A visit to the sparsely populated parish of Llanelly, in the county of
Breconshire (twelve pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of
Wales' in June 1998.
As usual, these webpages will be on display on my website for one week.
'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at
www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm
After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and
make your own Retrospective requests.
Kind regards,
John
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John Ball, Brecon, mid-Wales, UK
E-mail: john(a)jlb2005.plus.com
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Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) mailing lists
Western Mail Wednesday June 25th 1924.
Before the Llanhilleth magistrates on Tuesday James DARE 33, a Llanhilleth haulier, was fined £10 for loitering in a public place for the purpose of receiving and settling bets.
The Chairman (Mr. W.B. HARRISON) said that one of the slips was for 6d., backing two horses. This gave every encouragement to boys and girls to have 6d on horses. It was scandalous method of obtaining money and the bench were not going to stand it.
Arthur Ernest TOWNSEND 37, pleaded "Not guilty" and was committed for trial from Cardiff Police-court on Tuesday on a charge of stealing four 10s. currency notes, a postal order for 1s.6d., and three penny stamps, the property of the Postmaster General. Mr. C.S. GILLING prosecuted, and Mr. T. Llewellyn FRANCIS defended.
Arthur NORD, of the General Post Office, London, said that in consequence of losses in the post he was instructed to make investigations. On Monday last he made up a letter containg the currency notes, postal order, and stamps, and addressed to "H. SHERMAN, Victoria-buildings, Tudor-road, Cardiff."
The following day he saw TOWNSEND, who was a sorting clerk at the Cardiff Central Post-office, and after cautioning him, asked him questions about the letter which had not reached the address. He finally admitted having opened it. Witnees added that he arranged for Townsend to handle the letter when it arrived at the post-office.
Bail was allowed, defendant in £50 and a surety of £50, or two of £25.
Two licensed premises in Dowlais/Merthyr.
Neptune, Church-street, Dowlais. Alehouse. Licensee - John Young JENKINS. Registered owners- David WILLIAMS and Co., Taff Vale Brewery, Merthyr Tydfil and Daniel O'DRISCOLL, White Swan Inn, Dowlais.
Three Mariners, Picton-street, Merthyr Tydfil. Alehouse. Licensee Thomas KNOTT. Registered owners GILES and HARRAP, Merthyr Brewery, Merthyr Tydfil.
Mr. W.J. O'DONOVAN has been appointed deputy accountant to the Barry District Council. He has been a member of the Barry District Council clerical staff for the past nineteen years.
A total of 1,469 points was obtained by the British team in the Olympic Games minature range rifle shooting tournament at Rheims, the top scorer being LEWIS, the Mountain Ash man, with 371 points (says a Reuter message).
Ex-Sergeant D.E . LEWIS, a working miner, residing at Montain Ash, is a well-known competitor at the Glamorgan County rifle championship meeting and also at the N.R.A. meeting at Bisley. This year he won the Glomargon championship for the second time.
Too Late To Classify.
Wanted. House-Parlourmaid.- apply with references, Mrs. STEWART, Brodawel, Caerleon.
Spaniels.- Liver Dog, Lemon Bitch 5. 1/2 months; also Pedigree Airedale Bitch; cheap to good homes.- Captain FERGUSSON, Black Lion Hotel, Aberdare.
RECENT WILLS.
Mr. Frederick SCRIVENER, of 141, Commercial-street, Newport, outfitter, who died suddenly in his shop on March 24, aged 71 years, left estate of the gross value of £2,523 of which £2,452 9s.6d. is net personalty. Probate of the will has been granted to the public trustee.
Mr. Cornelius KEEFE, of 17, Potter-street, Newport, of the firm of KEEFE Brothers charabanc proprietors and haulage contractors, who died on December 12, aged 47 years, left estate of the gross value of £1,209, with net personalty£1,175. Administration of the estate has been granted to the widow, Mrs. Margaret Ann KEEFE.
Mr. Edward DUTSON, J.P., of 17, Portwell-road, Chepstow, formerly of Hereford, who died on May 13, left estate of the gross value of £793, with net personalty £698. Probate of the will has been granted to the widow Mrs. Sarah Elizabeth DUTSON.
John Patrick
Photos of: St Mary's Church, Maenclochog, PEM; and St Tydfil's Church,
Merthyr Tydfil, GLA
Dear Listers,
The latest subjects to be added to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels
Collection' are:
1. St Mary's Church, Maenclochog, PEM
(photography by Dai Bevan)
2. St Tydfil's Church, Merthyr Tydfil, GLA
(photography by John Ball)
Go to www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/churches/ and search the index for the
Maenclochog and Merthyr Tydfil links.
Kind regards,
John
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John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK
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Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists
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Western Mail Wednesday June 25th 1924- No.17,179. One Penny.
FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS- continued.
DEATHS.
DAVIES.- On 20th inst., T. Lloyd DAVIES, Cilrhedyn, Langland, at Aberayron. Interred on Tuesday at Oystermouth Cemetery.
LEWIS.- On Tuesday, 24th June, at Bryneraul, Ammanford, Mary, dearly-beloved wife of the late Thomas LEWIS, Ironfounder, and daughter of the late Aaron CULE, Pontypridd. Funeral Friday, 27th, inst. Private.
LLOYD.- On 21st inst., after an operation, T.M. LLOYD (Builder), beloved husband of M.E. LLOYD, 66, Alfred-street, Cardiff. Masonic funeral Thursday, 2.30 p.m. G. O. -No flowers.
MORGAN.- On June 21st, at 44, Pomeroy-street, Daisy Elizabeth, dearly-beloved wife of William MORGAN, and daughter of the late Jacob and Charlotte GIBBS.
PRICE.- On June 23rd (suddenly), Anne PRICE, 15, John-street, Treharris, widow of the late Edward PRICE, Builder. Funeral Thursday, 3.45 p.m., for Beechgrove Cemetery, Treharris. G. O.
REES-JONES.- On 21st, at Highfield, Bradford-place, Penarth, Herbert REES-JONES, beloved husband of M.B. REES-JONES, aged 59 years. Private funeral on Wednesday. No flowers.
THOMAS.- On June 23rd, at 43, Wyndham-street, Treherbert, William THOMAS, (Butcher), Funeral Friday, at 3.30. G. O.
IN MEMORIAM.
HALL.- In Loving Memory of Maud, the beloved wife of Tom HALL, Provision Merchant, Nantyglo, who passed away on the 25th day of June 1923.- Sadly missed by Husband and son, Herbert.
WILSON.- In Affectionate Remembrance of Benjamin WILSON, who was killed at the Cambrian Colliery, Clydach Vale, June 24, 1912.- Ever remembered by Wife and Children.
John Patrick.
Western Mail Wednesday June 25th 1924.
FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS.
IN MEMORIAM - ROLL OF HONOUR.
MORRIS.- In Loving Memory of Willie, beloved son of William and Ada MORRIS, 25, Kathleen-street, Barry, Killed in action June 25, 1916.- Fondly remembered by Mother, Father, Ivor, Gertie, and Joe.
BIRTHS.
GREGG.-June 21st, to Dr. and Mrs. S.A. GREGG, Greystone, Newbridge, Mon, a son.
ROBERTS.- June 22, at Glancynon, Bishop's-road, Whitchurch, to Vera, wife of Evan Ll. ROBERTS, a daughter.
WHITE.- June 22nd, to Mr and Mrs G. M. WHITE, 52, Marlborough-road, Cardiff, a son.
WILLIAMS.- June 22nd, at 44,Queens-road, Beckingham, Kent, to Gladys (nee LEWIS), wife of Oscar I. WILLIAMS, a daughter.
MARRIAGES.
ASHLEY - WELLMAN.- At St. Mary's Whitchurch (by licence), June 24th, by the Vicar. Rev. Henry WILLIAMS, Edgar C. ASHLEIGH, Inglefield, Whitchurch, Glam. to Matilda A. (Tilly) WELLMAN, third daughter of the late Mr and Mrs William WELLMAN, Yeovil, Somerset.
BOWEN - SEABOURNE.- June 23rd, at Sardis, Pontypridd, by the Rev. J. WILLIAMS, Trehafod, Albert, son of the late Mr and Mrs BOWEN, Pantygraigwen, to Gwyneth, daughter of Mr and Mrs J. SEABOURNE, Llwyn-Onn, Trehafod.
BAILEY - WOODRUFF.- June 21st. at St. Catherine's Church, Pontypridd, by the Rev. - PARRY-PRICE, Edwin James, second son of Mr and Mrs A. H. BAILEY, The Grove, Pontnewynydd, to Ethel, second daughter of the late Mr and Mrs WOODRUFF, Hyde, Cheshire.
OATTEN - TURNER.- June 21st, at St. Luke's Church, Cardiff, by the Rev. - RICHARDS, (Vicar), John (Jack) OATTEN, of Cardiff, to Mary Elizabeth (Minnie) TURNER, of Blyth, Northumberland.
DAVIES - REES.- At Christchurch, Radyr, on Tuesday, June 24th, by the Rev. David PHILLIPS, B.A., Rural Dean of Llandaff, W. Brinley DAVIES, son of Mrs DAVIES and the late Mr. DAVIES, Gwemfa, Pontardulais, to Blodwen M. REES, elder daughter of Mr and Mrs. John REES, Talfryn, Radyr, and of Tonypandy.
OLIVER - PICTON-EVANS.- June 3rd, at Charing Cross Welsh Presbyterian Church, by the Rev. D. PICTON-EVANS, M.A., father of the bride, and Revs Peter Hughes GRIFFITHS and J.J. WILLIAMS, of Morriston, W. Edward Richard OLIVER, of Lloyds Bank, Bethesda, to Miss Florence May PICTON-EVANS, B.D., of Manora, Morriston.
PARKHURST - EVANS.- On the 24th inst., at All Saints' Church, Penarth, by the Rev. A.W. Flux DUNDAS, M.A., assisted by the Rev. R.H. NORBY. M.A., Major H.J. PARKHURST, third son of the late Captain H.J. PARKHURST, of Pontypool, to Nellie, eldest daughter of Mr. W.J. EVANS, Superintendent H.M. Customs and Excise, and Mrs EVANS, of 4, Barons-road, Penarth.
WILLIAMS - ROSS.- June 23rd, at Llanfair Church, by the Rev. D. DAVIES, B.A. (Vicar), Trevor, son of the late Mr. W. WILLIAMS and Mrs WILLIAMS, Dinas, to Eleanor, daughter of Mr and Mrs. D.J. ROSS, Penygraig.
WALTERS - THOMAS.- On June 21st, at Sexsmith, Alberta, Canada, Lewis Garfield, second son of Mr and Mrs. Lewis WALTERS, Sexsmith, Alberta, to Clarice Jane, only daughter of the late Mr. Evan W. THOMAS, Cefn Farm, Cefn Cribbw, and Mrs Thomas, Sunnyside, Bridgend. (By cable).
John Patrick
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Western Mail Tuesday June 24th 1924.
The news reached Cardiff on Monday by cablegram that Mr. George DIXON, a well-known South Wales marine engineer, has been drowned at Delagoa Bay, East Africa.
Mr. DIXON, who was chief engineer of the steamship Oakfield, a ship owned by the Anglo-Celtic Shipping Company, for which the Cardiff managers are Messrs. GRIFFITHS and PAYNE, and Co. Ltd, was a familiar figure at the Cardiff Docks, and his sister, Mrs. S. ROWLANDS, resides at Clive-road, Canton.
Forty-nine years of age, Mr. DIXON, was a native of Wast Hartlepool, and had resided at Cardiff for nearly forty years. He served his engineering apprenticeship at the Atlas Works, Canton, under the late Mr. R. KYTE, and secured his chief engineer's certificate shortly after he started going to sea.
He was a Freemason, and his death (of which no details have yet been received) will come as a great shock to his many friends in Cardiff.
The marriage was solemnised at Clare-gardens Wesleyan Church, Cardiff, on Monday, by the Rev. Thomas WEARNE, of Alfred Harvard WILLIAMS, eldest son of Mr. A.J. WILLIAMS, solicitor, Pontypridd, and Mrs WILLIAMS, to Miss Phullis TUNLEY, only daughter of Mr and Mrs. Wilson M. TUNLEY, of Cardiff.
The bride who was given away by her father, wore a gown of ivory marocain embroidered with seed pearls, and a veil surmounted by a wreath of orange blossoms and heather. Her bridemaids were Miss Gwyneth ASHTON and Miss Marjory CROM (cousins), and Miss Doreen OWEN of Swansea. Mr. L. MITCHELL, of Pontypridd, was best man.
After the reception, Mr and Mrs WILLIAMS, left for London and Paris, the bride going away in a navy blue threequarter suit with hat to match.
Mr. Constantine D. CALLINICOS, the well-known Cardiff docksman, and youngest son of Mr and Mrs D. CALLINICOS, Bucharest, Roumania, was married on Sunday at the Greek Church, Cardiff, to Miss Evelyn Beatrice PAWLEY, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs Edward John PAWLEY, Penarth.
On Monday the wedding was again solemnised at the Albert-road, Wesleyan Church, Penarth, the Rev. Charles RIDGE conducting the service.
The bride, who was given away by her father, wore a lovely gown consisting of a broche satin tunic, edged with white ostrich feather, over a slip of pink georgette and French lace. Her veil was caught with orange blossom, and she carried a sheaf of lilies and white heather. She was attended by her sister, Miss Doris PAWLEY, who wore a grey and orange printed marocain frock. Her grey hat to tone was underlined in orange, and she carried a bouquet of orange roses.
The best man was Mr. Anthony CALLINICOS, brother of the bridegroom, and Mr. A.E. HALLETT was the organist. After a reception at the Paget Rooms, Penarth, Mr and Mrs CALLINICOS left for London en route for Paris and Vienna, where the honeymoon will be spent. To travel the bride wore a grey marocain frock and wrap.
A horse-breaker, named Thomas DAVIES, was fined £5 by the Swansea bench on Monday for a remarkable offence. He rode his horse up the steps leading to the high bridge leading from Victoria Park to the sands, and he was charged with damaging the bridge.
The Chairman (Mr. R.W. JONES) said it was fortunate that there were no children on the bridge at the time. The bridge was built for pedestrians and not horses.
Ernest S. TAYLOR, of Northampton, was sent to prison for three months at a special police-court at Pontypool for non-payment of £231. 6s. maintenance arrears due to hia wife, Sarah Ann TAYLOR., of Garndiffaith.
Defendant said he had been out of work over two years and been ill for some time.
In sentencing defendant, the Chairman (Mr. J.J. HARMSTON) said that it was a scandalous case--one of the worst that had been heard by the local bench.
For having served liquor after hours Robert KNIGHT, Royal Oak Hotel, Treherbert, was fined £2 at Ystrad Police-court on Monday, while Mrs Knight, together with George BENNETT, Charles ALLENSBY, and A. ABINGER(an insurance agent, of Cardiff), who were found on the premises at the time, were dismissed on payments of costs.
John Patrick.
Hi Ann,
Just wondering if you can help me. Searching for information on
my 8th gr-grandfather.
Thomas
Hughes of Pentwyn in Llantilio buried 7th Oct.1742
Marr; Jane Hughes d/o
Wm.Hughes of Cefn Llytha= Susanna Watkins of Tre Adam?
Children;John
born;1713=marr;Eliz Price
Wm. born;
1715=marr;Esther Parry.
Thomas had a brother named John who was owner of The Maerdy (Mardy).
Need birth/marriage date for Thomas/Jane; also name of parents.
Have checked Bradney's history of Monmouthshire; parish registeres etc.
Judy
----- Original Message -----
From: "ann" <annmacey(a)ntlworld.com>
To: <monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MON] Jones
> There is a Llansanffraid Court in Monmouthshire, it is a hotel now but was
> a
> large house about 2 miles from Clytha Park which is approximately four
> miles
> West from Raglan
> I too think Montgomeryshire is probably right for you but don't rule out
> Monmouthshire totally
>
> Ann
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hugh Jordan"
>
>> Llansanffraid is in Montgomeryshire, Veneita, not Monmouthshire.
>>
>> You'd do better on their site.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> At 14:28 22/07/2009, you wrote:
>>>Hi I have just joined the list. and I am looking
>>>for a connection on someone reassessing
>>>the Jones family from Llansantfradd
>>>John and Margaret Jones nee Watkins?
>>>had a son John Jones b around 1798
>>>he married Annie Vaughan
>>>they had a Daughter Hannah
>>>she married Samuel Roberts at the Parish Church
>>> Oswestry
>>> Regards
>>> Veneita
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Greetings.I have got a William EVANS aged 29 a "Coal Miner"of Pritchard
House[s]Risca in the 1891 census.His wife was Mary Jane aged 25 born in
Risca.
Children Wm;Herbert aged 5 George Henry aged 2 and 1 month old Frank E. all
born at Risca.
I don't know where William Was in 1881 nor do I know the Maiden Name of his
wife Mary Jane?
In the 1901 Census William's birthplace was listed as in "Fedw"Monmouth.By
that time he was living in Cardiff with his second wife Emma,Nee
WILLIAMS.[married 1883 in Cardiff.]
Emma was born about 1865 in Newport,Mon;
Many Thanks,
Graham.
--
Graham Williams.of
Canton,Cardiff.
Chairman,"Canton Historical Society".
Glam;FHS;#551.
Hi, Jeff, this is sensational .......I am absolutely grinning from
ear to ear , thank you sooooo much for this wonderful information .......I
thought he had to be something special , his handwriting and Susannah`s too
, is so clear and well spelled etc , and the Brewers , Marmaduke and Mary
both seem to come from a long line of surgeons ,magistrates etc , so I knew
there must be a paper trail ..........WOW !! thanks so much again . I had
no idea that the Cambrian was indexed online .....Agent to the Tredegar Iron
Company .....well well well !!!! and so Susannah was a Jenkins , and
therefore perhaps the dau of Mary Jenkins ( married to Marmaduke Brewer in
1831 !!! ) and Elizabeth Ann Jenkins brother ???
life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman(a)ntlworld.com>
To: <monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MON] Rev HENRY WILLIAMS
>From the index of the 'Cambrian' newspaper:
http://www.swansea.gov.uk/cambrian
04 September 1824 MR R.E.METCALF OF NEWPORT MONMOUTHSHIRE TO SUSANNAH
JENKINS OF LONDON.
DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 12 July 1828 WILLIAM ROBERT, INFANT SON OF MR
METCALF, SURVEYOR, MONMOUTH.
DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 31 December 1831 AT PILLGWENLLY NEWPORT: MR ROBERT
BENJAMIN METCALF, AGENT TO THE TREDEGAR IRON COMPANY
I suspect you may find more about his business affairs by looking at the
railway history of Britain, volume 11, South Wales which has a lot of detail
about the history of the tramways, docks and railways (and I think canal)
linking Newport to the Gwent valleys.
http://arcw.llgc.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?coll_id=2715&inst_id=36&te... Tredegar Iron Company with the Sirhowy Tramroad. That has a websiteabout it http://www.sirhowy.com/tramroad.html That article refers toanarticle in the Monmouthshire Merlin dated1829.http://www.welshpedia.co.uk/wiki/wales/index.php?title=Sirhowy_Tramroad&redirect=no says the Sirhowy Tramroad from Tredegar Iron Works reached theUskat Pillgwenlly.http://www.tredegar.co.uk/history/ has more on TredegarIron Company.http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=8500 tells youvarious ways toget photocopies of Cambrian articles.It is possible that themarriage notice will have actually mentioned wherethey married. It mighthave been St Woollos. The date is the newspaper date,not the marriage date,which could have been up to a few weeks earlier.If there was a Newportnewspaper of the time you might find more details.From above, it seems thata look at the Monmouth! shire Merl!
in might beuseful.Jeff----- Original Message -----From:"elizabeth howard" <elizgh(a)btinternet.com>To:<MONMOUTHSHIRE(a)rootsweb.com>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:18 PMSubject:[MON] Rev HENRY WILLIAMS Hi, new to the Monmouth list but not togenealogy ....I have aRobert Benjamin Metcalf , merchant , b c 1800somewhere maybe Yorkshire ,who died in Dec 1831 and left a will in theDiocese of Llandaff which sayshe is of Pilgwenlly , Newport . He leaves his" Tram wagons " and otherpersonal possessions to his wife Susannah with whomhe has two daughters onechr 1826 and the second Mary Kate in 1829 both chrSt Woollos and £100 tohis mother Elizabeth. Susannah his widowmarried again to the Rev Henry Williams c 1835/6and they are with theMetcalf daughters in Truro in Cornwall in the 1841census . The John RylandsMethodist archive has no further information onHenry Williams after 1851/2in post in London . Mary Kate the second dau chr 1829 married! a Joseph Roberts , b!
c1830 son of the Rev Joseph Roberts, Wesleyan Minister born 1790 inNe
therthong, Almondbury , Yorks . Joseph junr diedsuddenly in 1860 inManchester , and Mary Kate was left aged 31 in the 1861census with 4 smallsons . They are living in Tiverton in Devon with a MaryBrewer, aunt ,widow, 63, b Stroud , Glos , and an Elizabeth Ann Jenkins,unm, 50,schoolmistress b Sheffield . In the struggle to prove RobertBenjamin Metcalf`s will of 1831 handwritten by him , two `deponents `Marmaduke and Mary Brewer of St Woolloshaving known RBM for some time ,swear on oath that this is his handwriting. Help please on , themaiden name of Susaannah Metcalf , who had abrother William and a fatherliving unnamed in the will , in 1831 . RBM `smother is also living in 1831named Elizabeth , any marriage of a Metcalf toan Elizabeth ? c 1795 . Andfinally is Marmaduke Brewer`s wife Maria Rosethe same as Mary Brewer widowin the 1861 and aunt of Mary Kate Roberts ?There is an earlier MarmadukeBrewer who is married to Franc! es Williams .Is this aunt Mary B!
rewer some relation of Frances Williams whoin turn issome relation to the Rev Henry Williams ? And to complicatematters furtherthere is a Marmaduke Brewer with property in Skinyards inCaerleon 1840Tithe apportionment ? Complicated I know and ultimatelyirrelevant but .....and who wasRobert Benjamin Metcalf and what are TramWagons ? The Brewers hadconnections with Ty-du iron works . Thanks.life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toMONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without thequotes in the subject and the body of the message--------------------------------------------------------------------------------No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.25/2256 - Release Date: 07/23/0906:02:00
23 August 1817 MONMOUTH ASSIZES:DEATH SENTENCE - JAMES & THOMAS FRANCIS, FOR
STEALING ONE SHEEP, PROPERTY OF MARMADUKE BREWER. P3 from the 'Cambrian'
again
MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE 11 June 1831 MARMADUKE BREWER ESQ.OF NEWPORT
MONMOUTHSHIRE TO MARY JENKINS OF LONDON
27 December 1834 MARMADUKE BREWER OF NEWPORT TO MARIA ROSS JACKSON AT
ST.PANCRAS
BIRTHS 07 October 1843 TO MRS.MARMADUKE BREWER, OF COMMERCIAL STREET,
NEWPORT, A DAUGHTER.
BIRTHS 24 July 1846 A DAUGHTER TO MRS.MARMADUKE BREWER, AT NEWPORT.
Two different Marmadukes? Familysearch has one born 1809 in Newport Mon to
Marmaduke BREWER and Frances WILLIAMS, who married Maria R.
Familysearch has from a different subscriber Marmaduke BREWER b 12 Jun 1777
to John BREWER and Cecilia MORGAN, married (1) F WILLIAMS and (2) Mary
JENKINS
This family seems to have been submitted by Mike JOHN of Newport. Marmaduke
BREWER seems to have had various siblings who were doctors. Mike JOHN is a
well-known FH researcher in Monmouthshire. A bit more searching finds the
BREWER genealogy at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/brewernpt.htm
In 1841 census of Christchurch,Mon Marmaduke BREWER 60, whose occupation was
Customs, was with Mary JENKINS 40, Mary JENKINS 15, Louisa PHILLIPS 15 and
Ellen RUSSEL 13, all the youngsters shown as Ind.
Maybe old Marmaduke married a widow Mary JENKINS who had two daughters and
either ran a school or took in 'companions' for the daughters. Also two
servants. Marmaduke and Louisa PHILLIPS were born in Monmouthshire, the
others weren't. Maybe the two girls were nieces of Mary JENKINS if she was
not a widow.
Young Marmaduke Brewer '30' in 1841 was a tea dealer with wife Maria Rosa
and 3 small children, in Commercial Street, Newport, with three servants,
one of whom had a small baby. Young Marmaduke seems to have died in Newport
in 1882, 'age 73'.
The marriage of old Marmaduke and Mary JENKINS is in Pallot's Marriage
Index for England if someone has access to it ( for example using Ancestry
at a Library). You might find baptism of Robert Benjamin METCALF in the same
place, possibly son of Robert METCALF.
Marmaduke BREWER was shown as a Skinner in Newport in 1844 Pigot's
Directory.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh(a)btinternet.com>
To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:52 PM
Subject: [MON] MARY BREWER
> Hi, a random lunchtime search of google books reveals that Mary ??
> became the second wife of Marmaduke Brewer and exhibited miniatures under
> the name H Jenkins in 1830 and as Mary Brewer between 1848 and 1853 both
> at the Royal Academy ........I am now wondering if she was Mary Jenkins,
> and perhaps sister to Elizabeth Ann Jenkins both in Tiverton in 1861 as
> Aunts of Mary Kate Roberts , nee Metcalf ?
>
>
> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///
>From the index of the 'Cambrian' newspaper:
http://www.swansea.gov.uk/cambrian
04 September 1824 MR R.E.METCALF OF NEWPORT MONMOUTHSHIRE TO SUSANNAH
JENKINS OF LONDON.
DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 12 July 1828 WILLIAM ROBERT, INFANT SON OF MR
METCALF, SURVEYOR, MONMOUTH.
DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 31 December 1831 AT PILLGWENLLY NEWPORT: MR ROBERT
BENJAMIN METCALF, AGENT TO THE TREDEGAR IRON COMPANY
I suspect you may find more about his business affairs by looking at the
railway history of Britain, volume 11, South Wales which has a lot of detail
about the history of the tramways, docks and railways (and I think canal)
linking Newport to the Gwent valleys.
http://arcw.llgc.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?coll_id=2715&inst_id=36&te... the Tredegar Iron Company with the Sirhowy Tramroad. That has a website about it http://www.sirhowy.com/tramroad.html That article refers toan article in the Monmouthshire Merlin dated 1829.http://www.welshpedia.co.uk/wiki/wales/index.php?title=Sirhowy_Tramroad&redirect=no says the Sirhowy Tramroad from Tredegar Iron Works reached the Uskat Pillgwenlly.http://www.tredegar.co.uk/history/ has more on Tredegar Iron Company.http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=8500 tells you various ways toget photocopies of Cambrian articles.It is possible that the marriage notice will have actually mentioned wherethey married. It might have been St Woollos. The date is the newspaper date,not the marriage date, which could have been up to a few weeks earlier.If there was a Newport newspaper of the time you might find more details.From above, it seems that a look at the Monmouth!
shire Merlin might beuseful.Jeff----- Original Message -----From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh(a)btinternet.com>To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE(a)rootsweb.com>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:18 PMSubject: [MON] Rev HENRY WILLIAMS Hi, new to the Monmouth list but not to genealogy ....I have aRobert Benjamin Metcalf , merchant , b c 1800 somewhere maybe Yorkshire ,who died in Dec 1831 and left a will in the Diocese of Llandaff which sayshe is of Pilgwenlly , Newport . He leaves his " Tram wagons " and otherpersonal possessions to his wife Susannah with whom he has two daughters onechr 1826 and the second Mary Kate in 1829 both chr St Woollos and £100 tohis mother Elizabeth. Susannah his widow married again to the Rev Henry Williams c 1835/6and they are with the Metcalf daughters in Truro in Cornwall in the 1841census . The John Rylands Methodist archive has no further information onHenry Williams after 1851/2 in post in London . Mary Kate the second dau chr 1829 married!
a Joseph Roberts , b c1830 son of the Rev Joseph Roberts, Wesleyan Mi
nister born 1790 inNetherthong, Almondbury , Yorks . Joseph junr died suddenly in 1860 inManchester , and Mary Kate was left aged 31 in the 1861 census with 4 smallsons . They are living in Tiverton in Devon with a Mary Brewer, aunt ,widow, 63, b Stroud , Glos , and an Elizabeth Ann Jenkins, unm, 50,schoolmistress b Sheffield . In the struggle to prove Robert Benjamin Metcalf`s will of 1831 handwritten by him , two `deponents ` Marmaduke and Mary Brewer of St Woolloshaving known RBM for some time , swear on oath that this is his handwriting. Help please on , the maiden name of Susaannah Metcalf , who had abrother William and a father living unnamed in the will , in 1831 . RBM `smother is also living in 1831 named Elizabeth , any marriage of a Metcalf toan Elizabeth ? c 1795 . And finally is Marmaduke Brewer`s wife Maria Rosethe same as Mary Brewer widow in the 1861 and aunt of Mary Kate Roberts ?There is an earlier Marmaduke Brewer who is married to Franc!
es Williams .Is this aunt Mary Brewer some relation of Frances Williams who in turn issome relation to the Rev Henry Williams ? And to complicate matters furtherthere is a Marmaduke Brewer with property in Skinyards in Caerleon 1840Tithe apportionment ? Complicated I know and ultimately irrelevant but .....and who wasRobert Benjamin Metcalf and what are Tram Wagons ? The Brewers hadconnections with Ty-du iron works . Thanks .life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///
tram wagons ran on a tramway
often bringing coals or ironstone down to a canal wharf
this was an early form of railway horse drawn or cable drawn up steep
inclines
smaller trams used underground in mines
googling
The Port of Caerleon by Colin Green
In 1770 a tramway was built from forges at Cwmbran to the quayside at
Caerleon. The tramway also picked up the products of a forge at
Caerleon and a ...
www.caerleon.net/history/port/
better
http://www.caerleon.net/history/tramroad/index.html horse with two
waggons / trams
HOW WAS IT OPERATED?
The ledgers for the Ponthir Works show that in 1834 it had its own
trams (known locally as drams) - 39 to be exact - five for tin,
twenty-four for coal and ten for iron. The works also had six horses
for pulling the trams - Jolly, Boxer, Norman, Shaper, Bright and
Spinker. It seems likely that other businesses along the tramroad
also kept their own trams and horses.
older
http://www.waggonways.fsnet.co.uk/contents.html
This web site was created to cover the Industrial Archaeology
surrounding the development of the early British waggonway (or
wagonway)*. These wagonways, or wagonways, were originally made of
wood, later evolving into iron L plate tramways or what we today
regard as a railway with iron rails. The format of the site is
similar to a magazine in that it we aim to bring together
contibutions froma range of authors. Due to the current interests of
the circle members the site has a current bias towards the history of
the World's first recorded cross-country overland waggonway, (the
Wollaton waggonway of 1604) and Huntingdon Beaumont the man who built
it.
Hugh W
On 23 Jul 2009, at 13:18, elizabeth howard wrote:
> Hi, new to the Monmouth list but not to genealogy ....I
> have a Robert Benjamin Metcalf , merchant , b c 1800 somewhere
> maybe Yorkshire , who died in Dec 1831 and left a will in the
> Diocese of Llandaff which says he is of Pilgwenlly , Newport . He
> leaves his " Tram wagons " and other personal possessions to his
> wife Susannah with whom he has two daughters one chr 1826 and the
> second Mary Kate in 1829 both chr St Woollos and £100 to his mother
> Elizabeth.
> Susannah his widow married again to the Rev Henry Williams
> c 1835/6 and they are with the Metcalf daughters in Truro in
> Cornwall in the 1841 census . The John Rylands Methodist archive
> has no further information on Henry Williams after 1851/2 in post
> in London .
> Mary Kate the second dau chr 1829 married a Joseph
> Roberts , b c 1830 son of the Rev Joseph Roberts, Wesleyan Minister
> born 1790 in Netherthong, Almondbury , Yorks . Joseph junr died
> suddenly in 1860 in Manchester , and Mary Kate was left aged 31 in
> the 1861 census with 4 small sons . They are living in Tiverton in
> Devon with a Mary Brewer, aunt , widow, 63, b Stroud , Glos , and
> an Elizabeth Ann Jenkins, unm, 50, schoolmistress b Sheffield .
> In the struggle to prove Robert Benjamin Metcalf`s will of
> 1831 hand written by him , two `deponents ` Marmaduke and Mary
> Brewer of St Woollos having known RBM for some time , swear on oath
> that this is his handwriting .
> Help please on , the maiden name of Susaannah Metcalf , who
> had a brother William and a father living unnamed in the will , in
> 1831 . RBM `s mother is also living in 1831 named Elizabeth , any
> marriage of a Metcalf to an Elizabeth ? c 1795 . And finally is
> Marmaduke Brewer`s wife Maria Rose the same as Mary Brewer widow in
> the 1861 and aunt of Mary Kate Roberts ? There is an earlier
> Marmaduke Brewer who is married to Frances Williams . Is this aunt
> Mary Brewer some relation of Frances Williams who in turn is some
> relation to the Rev Henry Williams ? And to complicate matters
> further there is a Marmaduke Brewer with property in Skinyards in
> Caerleon 1840 Tithe apportionment ?
> Complicated I know and ultimately irrelevant but .....and
> who was Robert Benjamin Metcalf and what are Tram Wagons ? The
> Brewers had connections with Ty-du iron works .
> Thanks .
>
>
>
> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///
>
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Hi, a random lunchtime search of google books reveals that Mary ?? became the second wife of Marmaduke Brewer and exhibited miniatures under the name H Jenkins in 1830 and as Mary Brewer between 1848 and 1853 both at the Royal Academy ........I am now wondering if she was Mary Jenkins, and perhaps sister to Elizabeth Ann Jenkins both in Tiverton in 1861 as Aunts of Mary Kate Roberts , nee Metcalf ?
life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///