Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state.
Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb
Ruth Ann, I know about Ben. Gwatkin and Paulina and their three children, though nothing about the later life of Thomas. I will put together a response to your message in the next few days.
Glynne Jones
Have a GWATKIN family I am researching in Monmouthshire.
Interested in how often I might expect to find the surname as WATKIN or
WATKINS.
Thomas GWATKIN may be the son of Benjamin GWATKIN and Paulina.
Would like to confirm this as there are at least two individuals of the
same name in the area who are about the same age.
1. There is an IGI entry for a Thomas GWATKIN christened 18
March 1838 Llangattock Lingoed, Monmouthshire, England. Is this the same
individual as shown on later items?
2. Have not yet looked for him on the 1841, 1851, or 1861 census
as I no longer have access to those census years. Can you find him on
those?
3. I have a Thomas GWATKIN that married an Ann SAUNDERS about
1859 in Abergavenny area of Monmouthshire (from birth certificate of one
of their children). Still need to order the marriage certificate to
confirm his parents and find name of her father.
4. Do have Thomas GWATKIN, his wife Ann, and their children on
the 1871 (have image), 1881 (have only index), and 1891 census (have
image).
a. The 1871 image has family on Tudor Street in
Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, with him as Thomas GWATKIN, age hard to read,
occupation carpenter, (birthplace Llangattock in Monmouthshire). RG
10/5309, folio 85, page 11, household 50.
b. On the 1881 index he is Thomas G. WATKINS, age 42,
occupation carpenter joiner, at 16 Tudor Street, Abergavenny,
Monmouthshire, (birthplace Llangattock Lingoed, Monmouthshire). Index
gives RG 11 Piece 5235, folio 13, page 20. Does it look like surname is
GWATKIN on the actual image?
c. The 1891 image has family at 23 Monk Street in
Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, with him as Thomas GWATKIN, age 52,
occupation carpenter, (birthplace Abergavenny, Monmouthshire). RG
12/4347, folio 129, page 13, household 66.
d. Is Llangattock Lingoed near enough to Abergavenny
that an individual would use the terms interchangeably as a birthplace?
5. Notes about deaths of this couple:
a. Believe Thomas GWATKIN died in 1893 in Abergavenny,
Monmouthshire.
b. Believe Ann SAUNDERS GWATKIN died in 1892 in
Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
c. Would like to have a few more details of their early
years before ordering their death certificates, to be sure I have the
right couple.
6. Children of Thomas GWATKIN and Ann SAUNDERS known at this
time include James Charles GWATKIN (1861), William GWATKIN (about 1864),
Alfred GWATKIN (1865), Pauline GWATKIN (about 1867), Thomas GWATKIN
(1868), Ann GWATKIN (maybe Mary Ann) (1870), Jane Elizabeth GWATKIN
(1871), Emily GWATKIN (1876).
Ruth Ann Baker
United States
Hello - I have hit a brick wall with my Grandfather Cyril (Wally) Walter DAVIES who was born in Newbridge in 1922 to parents John DAVIES and Annie (WALL). The marriage cert shows Benjamin DAVIES b. 1844 Merthyr and Mary MORGAN b. 1822 Kidwelty, Carm. I know Benjamin was a carpenter and they had 2 sons - John above b. 1849 and Joseph b. 1857 who went on to be a Baptist Minister as in the 1891 and 1901 census. Benjamin DAVIES must have died before 1861 and I can't find any information about him previously. Any suggestions? I would love to find any information on Benjamin.
Also is there a place I could look to find out about Joseph Davies the baptist minister - in 1891 he was at Civil Parish Mynyddslwyn, Mon. and 1901 he was in Clifton, Birkenhead.
I am not sure where to go from here and would appreciate any input. Thanks,
Carol in Canada
Claire
Tere was also a woodland terrace in Blaina Aberystruth (thats about 8 miles from Aberbeeg) that came under Aberystruth - do you know where the family were in 1881 - do you have the fathers and mothers name - what else is onteh birth certificates and do you have teh marriage certificate
Ian
>
> From: "Claire Watling" <claire(a)watling.plus.com>
> Date: 2007/06/16 Sat AM 10:06:50 BST
> To: <monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Subject: [MON] Address in Aberystruth 1885
>
> On the birth certificate for Harriet LEWIS 9th Sept 1885, the address is given as Woodland Terrace, Aberystruth. Can anyone please tell me if this address still exists today? There are many Woodland Terraces in my street atlas of "The Valleys East" .
>
> Thank you,
> Claire
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
-----------------------------------------
Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email
Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam
Claire
Tere was also a woodland terrace in Blaina Aberystruth (thats about 8 miles from Aberbeeg) that came under Aberystruth - do you know where the family were in 1881 - do you have the fathers and mothers name - what else is onteh birth certificates and do you have teh marriage certificate
Ian
>
> From: "Claire Watling" <claire(a)watling.plus.com>
> Date: 2007/06/16 Sat AM 10:06:50 BST
> To: <monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Subject: [MON] Address in Aberystruth 1885
>
> On the birth certificate for Harriet LEWIS 9th Sept 1885, the address is given as Woodland Terrace, Aberystruth. Can anyone please tell me if this address still exists today? There are many Woodland Terraces in my street atlas of "The Valleys East" .
>
> Thank you,
> Claire
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
-----------------------------------------
Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email
Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam
Claire
Tere was also a woodland terrace in Blaina Aberystruth (thats about 8 miles from Aberbeeg) that came under Aberystruth - do you know where the family were in 1881 - do you have the fathers and mothers name - what else is onteh birth certificates and do you have teh marriage certificate
Ian
>
> From: "Claire Watling" <claire(a)watling.plus.com>
> Date: 2007/06/16 Sat AM 10:06:50 BST
> To: <monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Subject: [MON] Address in Aberystruth 1885
>
> On the birth certificate for Harriet LEWIS 9th Sept 1885, the address is given as Woodland Terrace, Aberystruth. Can anyone please tell me if this address still exists today? There are many Woodland Terraces in my street atlas of "The Valleys East" .
>
> Thank you,
> Claire
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
-----------------------------------------
Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email
Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam
Claire
Tere was also a woodland terrace in Blaina Aberystruth (thats about 8 miles from Aberbeeg) that came under Aberystruth - do you know where the family were in 1881 - do you have the fathers and mothers name - what else is onteh birth certificates and do you have teh marriage certificate
Ian
>
> From: "Claire Watling" <claire(a)watling.plus.com>
> Date: 2007/06/16 Sat AM 10:06:50 BST
> To: <monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Subject: [MON] Address in Aberystruth 1885
>
> On the birth certificate for Harriet LEWIS 9th Sept 1885, the address is given as Woodland Terrace, Aberystruth. Can anyone please tell me if this address still exists today? There are many Woodland Terraces in my street atlas of "The Valleys East" .
>
> Thank you,
> Claire
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
-----------------------------------------
Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email
Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam
> Hello
It could be WOODLAND TERRACE ABERBEEG which would of come under Aberystruth - still there today - It is a possibility taht the houses there are about 1880's the new woodland terrace being much l;ater.
Ian
> From: "Claire Watling" <claire(a)watlingfam.freeserve.co.uk>
> Date: 2007/06/16 Sat AM 10:40:30 BST
> To: <monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Subject: [MON] Address in Aberystruth 1885
>
> On the birth certificate for Harriet LEWIS 9th Sept 1885, the address is given as Woodland Terrace, Aberystruth. Can anyone please tell me if this address still exists today? There are many Woodland Terraces in my street atlas of "The Valleys East" .
>
> Thank you,
> Claire
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
-----------------------------------------
Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email
Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam
On the birth certificate for Harriet LEWIS 9th Sept 1885, the address is given as Woodland Terrace, Aberystruth. Can anyone please tell me if this address still exists today? There are many Woodland Terraces in my street atlas of "The Valleys East" .
Thank you,
Claire
On the birth certificate for Harriet LEWIS 9th Sept 1885, the address is given as Woodland Terrace, Aberystruth. Can anyone please tell me if this address still exists today? There are many Woodland Terraces in my street atlas of "The Valleys East" .
Thank you,
Claire
Hello Claire,
Aberystruth was not a village or hamlet it was a Parish and Registration
sub-district, there was many places that had the sub-district of Aberystruth
written on BMD's.
Do you know from Census which location you Ancestor lived.
Regards Barbara
Hj
Cant helpyou with your question but I thought you`d be interested to know
that my father was in the 1st battalion The WElsh Guards from 1926 to 1931
His name was Albert ALLAWAY
Sylvia Morgan(nee ALLAWAY)
From: DStoc10228(a)aol.com
Reply-To: monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com
To: monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [MON] Collier's Assistant? Govilon
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:31:03 EDT
Prior to joining the Welsh Guards in 1925, at the age of 18, my father's
employment was described as a 'Collier's Assistant'. Would anyone know what
duties this job may have entailed, apart from working at the coal face?
Additionally, where in the vicinity of Govilon was he likely to have been
employed?
Many thanks.
-------------------------------
To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
quotes in the subject and the body of the message
_________________________________________________________________
The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk
Colliers assistant
As I understand this could mean any thing from hewing the coal, filling
the drams (trucks) to fixing up pit props.
It is a generic term for mine workers and in my brief experience reading
census returns seems to be interchangeable term.
I asked a miner this same question when visiting the Big Pit at
Blaenafon as I wanted to be clear what the difference was between a
Hewer, Coal Miner, Collier….
He said it depends where you were mining. And who was writing it down.
The Big Pit had 26 miles of road underground!
My own Uncle Lewis was 14 when he become what must be I suppose a
colliers assistant; he assisted his father by loading the trucks (drams)
whilst his father hewed the coal. This is only 1920’s/30’s In those days
I am told it was a father and son business.
Many children as young as 5 years old were sent down pit to be used as
door closers or trap closers to keep the air circulating. In the mine in
the early 19th century...
Many sat in the dark without light as the parents could not afford the
candle.
My Uncle tells me at age 14 he had to travel a long way to reach where
my Grandfather was working carrying a heavy lamp working all day filling
trucks and chalking up the name on the side.
The same lamp my grandfather held in his teeth ( it weighs quite a few
pounds) whilst he fixed the pit props in place to prevent falls. He
mainly used the undercutting method to hew the coal. It is very
dangerous and often fatal. He was crushed by a fall of coal and was
freed when my Uncle went for help. My Grandfather died at age 44. from
pneumonia and lung infection.
If you want to know more about the life of a miner the book” My life as
a Somerset Miner” by A. J Parfitt. is recommended.
Lewis
www.batesplace.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: monmouthshire-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:monmouthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of
DStoc10228(a)aol.com
Sent: 13 June 2007 14:31
To: monmouthshire(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [MON] Collier's Assistant? Govilon
Prior to joining the Welsh Guards in 1925, at the age of 18, my father's
employment was described as a 'Collier's Assistant'. Would anyone know
what
duties this job may have entailed, apart from working at the coal face?
Additionally, where in the vicinity of Govilon was he likely to have
been employed?
Many thanks.
-------------------------------
To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without
the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date:
10/06/2007 13:39
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date:
10/06/2007 13:39
Prior to joining the Welsh Guards in 1925, at the age of 18, my father's
employment was described as a 'Collier's Assistant'. Would anyone know what
duties this job may have entailed, apart from working at the coal face?
Additionally, where in the vicinity of Govilon was he likely to have been employed?
Many thanks.
Hi Gill,
Multimap shows a Llandegveth on page
http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&GridE=-2.96230&GridN=51
.65330&lon=-2.96230&lat=51.65330&search_result=Llandegveth%2C%20Monmouthshir
e&db=freegaz&keepicon=true&lang=&place=Llandegveth%2C%20Monmouthshire&pc=&ad
vanced=&client=public&addr2=&quicksearch=llandegveth&addr3=&scale=100000&add
r1=
It seems to be just a few miles East of Cwmbran and just North of Caerleon.
I am fairly sure this will turn out to be the location.
regards
Dennis
Gill Jones at pwllrhydypwnau(a)tiscali.co.uk wrote:
> Hello Dennis
>
> The only place I can think of is LLANDEGFEDD near Pontypool. There is a
> reservoir there. Unfortunately, I don't live near there otherwise I would
> help.
>
> Good luck
>
> Gill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "denniscorbett" <denniscorbett(a)denniscorbett.e.telefonica.net>
> To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:45 PM
> Subject: [MON] Llandegveth Churchyard
>
>
>> Oh dear, in my excitement at finding a grave previously unknown to me, I
>> forgot to identify the man!!
>>
>> He is Gunner Arthur Cording.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>> I am the historian for the Worcestershire Royal Field Artillery and have
>> just discovered that one of our WW1 casualties is buried in the churchyard
>> at Llandegreth. Spelling comes from the CWGC site, should this be
>> Llandegveth. The man's home was near Caerleon.
>>
>> Is there a possibility that some kind soul with a digital camera could
> take
>> a photograph of the headstone for me directly from the front? The CWGC
> site
>> says only that it is in the churchyard and does not give a precise
> location.
>> Almost certainly, however, it will be a standard CWGC headstone made from
> a
>> light Portland stone and with a curved top. Pictures of other similar
> stones
>> can be seen on my website detailed below.
>>
>> Unfortunately (?) I live in Tenerife now and very rarely visit the UK and
> am
>> therefore unable to do this myself.
>>
>> Thanks in advance if anyone can help
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Dennis Corbett
>> Dennis Corbett
>> Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery.
>> Website http://www.denniscorbett.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Dennis
The only place I can think of is LLANDEGFEDD near Pontypool. There is a
reservoir there. Unfortunately, I don't live near there otherwise I would
help.
Good luck
Gill
----- Original Message -----
From: "denniscorbett" <denniscorbett(a)denniscorbett.e.telefonica.net>
To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: [MON] Llandegveth Churchyard
> Oh dear, in my excitement at finding a grave previously unknown to me, I
> forgot to identify the man!!
>
> He is Gunner Arthur Cording.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> I am the historian for the Worcestershire Royal Field Artillery and have
> just discovered that one of our WW1 casualties is buried in the churchyard
> at Llandegreth. Spelling comes from the CWGC site, should this be
> Llandegveth. The man's home was near Caerleon.
>
> Is there a possibility that some kind soul with a digital camera could
take
> a photograph of the headstone for me directly from the front? The CWGC
site
> says only that it is in the churchyard and does not give a precise
location.
> Almost certainly, however, it will be a standard CWGC headstone made from
a
> light Portland stone and with a curved top. Pictures of other similar
stones
> can be seen on my website detailed below.
>
> Unfortunately (?) I live in Tenerife now and very rarely visit the UK and
am
> therefore unable to do this myself.
>
> Thanks in advance if anyone can help
>
> regards
>
> Dennis Corbett
> Dennis Corbett
> Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery.
> Website http://www.denniscorbett.com
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Oh dear, in my excitement at finding a grave previously unknown to me, I
forgot to identify the man!!
He is Gunner Arthur Cording.
Thanks again,
Dennis
I am the historian for the Worcestershire Royal Field Artillery and have
just discovered that one of our WW1 casualties is buried in the churchyard
at Llandegreth. Spelling comes from the CWGC site, should this be
Llandegveth. The man's home was near Caerleon.
Is there a possibility that some kind soul with a digital camera could take
a photograph of the headstone for me directly from the front? The CWGC site
says only that it is in the churchyard and does not give a precise location.
Almost certainly, however, it will be a standard CWGC headstone made from a
light Portland stone and with a curved top. Pictures of other similar stones
can be seen on my website detailed below.
Unfortunately (?) I live in Tenerife now and very rarely visit the UK and am
therefore unable to do this myself.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help
regards
Dennis Corbett
Dennis Corbett
Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery.
Website http://www.denniscorbett.com
I am the historian for the Worcestershire Royal Field Artillery and have
just discovered that one of our WW1 casualties is buried in the churchyard
at Llandegreth. Spelling comes from the CWGC site, should this be
Llandegveth. The man's home was near Caerleon.
Is there a possibility that some kind soul with a digital camera could take
a photograph of the headstone for me directly from the front? The CWGC site
says only that it is in the churchyard and does not give a precise location.
Almost certainly, however, it will be a standard CWGC headstone made from a
light Portland stone and with a curved top. Pictures of other similar stones
can be seen on my website detailed below.
Unfortunately (?) I live in Tenerife now and very rarely visit the UK and am
therefore unable to do this myself.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help
regards
Dennis Corbett
Dennis Corbett
Historian 2nd South Midland (241st) Brigade, Royal Field Artillery.
Website http://www.denniscorbett.com
Hello Glynne.
I have a copy of the IGI from Neath, Lisa she works there thinks that she
help to transcribe this and added her name as a relations, I also asked in
Aberystwyth they did not have any idea what it meant.
I looked up Ira Stearns on the LDS site and found one born about 1900
again nothing to confirm this.
I will send you what I have on Thomas if you would like me to. I am planning
a visit to the archives at Cwmbran in the near future.
Bye.
Marian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glynne Jones" <gbj(a)talktalk.net>
To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: [MON] JOHN HATCH
> Greetings Marian,
>
> I do not have anything firm on the origins of John Hatch but some pointers
> which may be relevant. The surname is more common in Gloucestershire and
> Herefordshire than in Monmouthshire in that period. I found a John Hatch
> baptised in Ashton-under-Hill 26.8.1742, son of John and Sarah; they also
> used the names Thomas and Sarah (three times). This could be our John H.
> but I have failed to find any evidence to confirm it.
> The IGI of 1992 has a number of entries submitted by Ira Stearns Hatch
> which look as if they may be interesting but they were submitted in 1927
> and no way of following up.
> As you may have seen in the Parish records, John Hatch was at different
> times petty constable and overseer of the highway in the 1780's. One way
> and another I reckon he was in Tregare from at least 1776 and until 1811.
> No sign of his burial but a John Hatch was buried at Tintern, age 75, on
> 19.5.1817. This would be spot on for age I believe.
> I have more on his son John and of course a pretty full life history for
> daughter Sarah. The only thing on Thomas is that he was a witness at her
> marriage - I think it safe to assume that this Thomas H. was her brother.
> I think that is all I have which may be of interest to you.
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> MONMOUTHSHIRE-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>