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Greetings listers...
The OGRE has been updated today with the 1934 Kelly's Directory for
Monmouthshire.
I'm in the process of thumbnailing the images and setting up a 'proper' HTML
page but you can get at the details right now:
http://www.genebooks.com/kellymon1934/
Also, the Colman Deeds for Flintshire are there in the new Topographical
section in case you have any rellies from that area.
Cheers
The OGRE
Yes I saw the Usk Road brickworks on the old-maps website
not very practical by modern standards
all the coal with horse and cart from the railway
I have never heard of a coal mine close by
The four miles from Little Mill Junction to Usk were opened on June 2,
1856, and the 12 miles thence to Monmouth (Troy) followed on October
12, 1857.
G.W.R. absorbed the Coleford, Monmouth Usk & Pontypool in 1887
http://www.urban75.org/photos/wales/wye_valley.html
thank you
Hugh W
On 1/24/06, alan moore <al_mo_1937(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> No Hugh - I don't remember the brickworks but I know that they were situated
> on the road to Usk about a mile out of the village. Coincidently, the only
> son of my Auntie and Uncle who lived at 3 Castle Street and who now lives in
> Vancouver, was over here attending my niece's wedding earlier this month and
> he told me where the brickworks was situated.
> Alan
>
> Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> thank you
> he owned a brickworks
>
> but I have no idea if he used his own bricks to build it
>
> can you remember any clay pits?
>
> then it will be hisfather who built them
>
>
> John Jones married Elizabeth Walter
> 04 May 1815 St Cadoc's Raglan
>
> I know little else
>
> ned to get into wills and so on
>
>
> regards
>
> Hugh W
>
> http://slim2005.blogspot.com/2006/01/moving-boxes.html
> scroll down for more genealogy
>
> On 1/24/06, alan moore wrote:
> > Greetings Hugh - I lived at 3 Castle Street with my Uncle and Auntie
> during the war years. No 5 was right next door and the group of 3 attached
> houses have a plaque on them saying 'built 1816'. So 'your' Jones was the
> original owner.
> > Alan Moore, Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia
>
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-----Original Message-----
Subject: [Mon] Pentre and Pentyrch
Could someone tell me if Pentre and Pentyrch are the same place?
Melanie Tucker
Hi Melanie
They are different places.
If you go to http://www.gazetteer.co.uk/ and type in the names you see there
are quite a few different places named Pentre and two named Pentyrch.
Steve
Greetings Hugh - I lived at 3 Castle Street with my Uncle and Auntie during the war years. No 5 was right next door and the group of 3 attached houses have a plaque on them saying 'built 1816'. So 'your' Jones was the original owner.
Alan Moore, Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia
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______________________________Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:09:48 +1100
From: "Bev Simmonds" <bsi65250(a)bigpond.net.au>
To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Correct Spelling of Registration District?
Hi,
I have just found a marriage entry that I have been trying to find for quite a while now and the registration district is Presteigne?. I am wondering if this is the correct spelling because I would like to order the certificate but not sure of it is correct. Also does anyone know where this is in Wales.
Thanks Bev in very hot Melbourne.
______________________________Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:11:48 -0500
From: "Kathy Nemaric" <knemaric1(a)cfl.rr.com>
To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [Mon] Correct Spelling of Registration District?
Bev,
Presteigne is a registration district in the county of Radnorshire. You do
have the correct spelling. You can easily find it with a Google search.
http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/rad.htm
If you can find the marriage entry in the FreeBMD or other such search site,
you will have the proper registration district, page and number to order a
certificate... that way there is no mistake. But if it's not listed on
FreeBMD, or other BMD search, then you'll have to go with what you know.
Kathy
In a balmy 21C, 69F Florida evening.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bev Simmonds [mailto:bsi65250@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:10 PM
To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [Mon] Correct Spelling of Registration District?
Hi,
I have just found a marriage entry that I have been trying to find for
quite a while now and the registration district is Presteigne?. I am
wondering if this is the correct spelling because I would like to order the
certificate but not sure of it is correct. Also does anyone know where this
is in Wales.
Thanks Bev in very hot Melbourne.
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______________________________Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:24:34 +0000
From: Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins(a)gmail.com>
To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Daguereotypes Jones Raglan
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1424/216/1600/DSC00024.2.jpg
So is this John Jones of 5 Castle Street Raglan, Monmouth, Wales ?
He was born in 1816 and chemist, grocer and Brick & Tile Manufacturer
The picture was from his grand daughter's attic in 1953
The Haven, Monmouth Rd, Usk
process patented in 1938 add out of date by 1855 ish
does any one have any Monmouthshire Daguerreotypes, ?
to compare with this one
any dates ?
when a photographer was locally active in Newport or Abergavenny
bigger
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1424/216/1600/DSC00023.2.jpg
he had to sit still for about 90 seconds
Hugh W
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______________________________Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:44:51 -0000
From: "John Ball" <john(a)jlb2005.plus.com>
To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Mon] Correct Spelling of Registration District?
Bev Simmonds wrote:
I have just found a marriage entry that I have been trying to find for quite
a while now and the registration district is Presteigne?. I am wondering if
this is the correct spelling because I would like to order the certificate
but not sure of it is correct. Also does anyone know where this is in
Wales.
==================
Dear Bev,
Presteigne is in Radnorshire, close to the English border and Herefordshire.
The Presteigne registers are now divided between the Radnorshire East,
Kington and Leominster districts.
Radnorshire East register office is at:
2 Station Road, Knighton, LD7 1DU
Tel: 01547 520758
Kington register office is at:
Market Hall Street, Kington, HR5 3DP
Tel: 01554 230325 or 230347
Leominster register office is at:
The Old Priory, Church Street, Leominster, HR6 8EQ
Tel: 01568 610131
See: www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/rad.htm#pres
If you apply to the wrong office, I'm sure the registrar will pass on your
application to the correct office for you. Or you could clarify this by
phone before sending in your application.
The registrar will probably want you to tell him/her *where* the marriage
ceremony was conducted. Otherwise a very protracted search may be involved,
which the local registrar may consider unreasonable.
In this case you may do better to apply to the General Register Office
rather than the local register office (see: www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/).
Kind regards,
John
- --------------------------
John Ball, Ystalyfera, near Swansea, Wales, UK
E-mail: john(a)jlb2005.plus.com
John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/
Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/
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Could someone tell me if Pentre and Pentyrch are the same place?
Thanks,
Melanie Tucker
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Hello,
I'm looking for the family of John Rees (b. abt 1856 in Trelyn, Bedwellty). The last I've been able to trace them is the 1901 census in Abercarn. During the 1881 the family was in Trevethin and during 1891 they were in Mynyddmaen. John was a grocer, and I'm pretty certain he ended up staying in Abercarn.
Does anyone recognize this family or have ideas about where to go from here since the 1911 census is not available yet? This is all I have to go on. I've copied the info. from the 1901 census below.
Thanks in advance,
Melanie Tucker
Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
John Rees abt 1856 Fleur De Lys, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Abercarn Monmouthshire
Sarah J Rees abt 1859 Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Abercarn Monmouthshire
Elizabeth A Rees abt 1881 Pontnewynydd, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Abercarn Monmouthshire
Gwllays M Rees abt 1885 Pontnewynydd, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Abercarn Monmouthshire
Richard W Rees abt 1897 Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abercarn Monmouthshire
William H Reess abt 1882 Pontnewynydd, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abercarn Monmouthshire
Sarah Brown abt 1885 Fleur de Lys, Monmouthshire, Wales Servant Abercarn Monmouthshire
Lewis Owen abt 1878 Morghampton, Herefordshire, England Servant Abercarn Monmouthshire
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thank you
he owned a brickworks
but I have no idea if he used his own bricks to build it
can you remember any clay pits?
then it will be hisfather who built them
John Jones married Elizabeth Walter
04 May 1815 St Cadoc's Raglan
I know little else
ned to get into wills and so on
regards
Hugh W
http://slim2005.blogspot.com/2006/01/moving-boxes.html
scroll down for more genealogy
On 1/24/06, alan moore <al_mo_1937(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Greetings Hugh - I lived at 3 Castle Street with my Uncle and Auntie during the war years. No 5 was right next door and the group of 3 attached houses have a plaque on them saying 'built 1816'. So 'your' Jones was the original owner.
> Alan Moore, Hervey Bay, Queensland, Australia
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Just subscribed and posting my interests:
GETHIN FARRELL B 1898 BRITON FERRY
Married ALICE ? and lived in NEWPORT, Alice had a Sister named PEM who lived
with them, and another Sister named JOYCE who was married, I believe she had
three Children.
GETHIN worked in the Steel Works, was a Member of the Working Men's Club, he,
along with others would arrange for the Children to go on outings to Barry
Island.
GETHIN and ALICE had one son RONNIE, he died in Childhood. If anyone is
researching this Family please contact Offline as AOL is not forwarding any Mail
from Rootsweb.
Thanks for reading....Meg....(GETHIN'S Niece)
Hi,
I have just found a marriage entry that I have been trying to find for quite a while now and the registration district is Presteigne?. I am wondering if this is the correct spelling because I would like to order the certificate but not sure of it is correct. Also does anyone know where this is in Wales.
Thanks Bev in very hot Melbourne.
Bev Simmonds <bsi65250(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote:
I have just found a marriage entry that I have been trying to find for quite
a while now and the registration district is Presteigne?. I am wondering if
this is the correct spelling because I would like to order the certificate
but not sure of it is correct. Also does anyone know where this is in
Wales.
==================
Dear Bev,
Presteigne is in Radnorshire, close to the English border and Herefordshire.
The Presteigne registers are now divided between the Radnorshire East,
Kington and Leominster districts.
Radnorshire East register office is at:
2 Station Road, Knighton, LD7 1DU
Tel: 01547 520758
Kington register office is at:
Market Hall Street, Kington, HR5 3DP
Tel: 01554 230325 or 230347
Leominster register office is at:
The Old Priory, Church Street, Leominster, HR6 8EQ
Tel: 01568 610131
See: www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/rad.htm#pres
If you apply to the wrong office, I'm sure the registrar will pass on your
application to the correct office for you. Or you could clarify this by
phone before sending in your application.
The registrar will probably want you to tell him/her *where* the marriage
ceremony was conducted. Otherwise a very protracted search may be involved,
which the local registrar may consider unreasonable.
In this case you may do better to apply to the General Register Office
rather than the local register office (see: www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/).
Kind regards,
John
----------------------------
John Ball, Ystalyfera, near Swansea, Wales, UK
E-mail: john(a)jlb2005.plus.com
John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/
Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/
Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/
GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/
Joint Administrator for BRE, MGY, POWYS, & RAD mailing lists
Hi John
Thank you for looking, sorry I did not quote full folio, will remember next
time.
Regards
Patricia
-----Original Message-----
From: John Ball [mailto:john@jlb2005.plus.com]
Sent: 22 January 2006 20:05
To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Mon] Newport Address for DELAMARE
Patricia Hedley <patricia.hedley(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
Wondering if SKS could decipher an address for me on 1901 Census RG13/4956
Page 15
...I am not sure if it reads 47 DEVON PLACE in the parish of St Marks also
his occupation, would you say it is Plasterer.
===============
Dear Patricia,
I agree with your interpretation of the address (47 Devon Place), the
ecclesiastical parish (St Mark's), and the occupation (Plasterer).
Note that you need to quote the folio number (89) as well as the page number
(15) to give a unique reference identification to the correct image in piece
RG13/4956.
Searching on RG13/4956 Page 15 without the folio number brings up 267
entries.
Kind regards,
John
----------------------------
John Ball, Ystalyfera, near Swansea, Wales, UK
E-mail: john(a)jlb2005.plus.com
John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/
Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/
Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/wales/
GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/
Joint Administrator for BRE, MGY, POWYS, & RAD mailing lists
Bev,
Presteigne is a registration district in the county of Radnorshire. You do
have the correct spelling. You can easily find it with a Google search.
http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/rad.htm
If you can find the marriage entry in the FreeBMD or other such search site,
you will have the proper registration district, page and number to order a
certificate... that way there is no mistake. But if it's not listed on
FreeBMD, or other BMD search, then you'll have to go with what you know.
Kathy
In a balmy 21C, 69F Florida evening.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bev Simmonds [mailto:bsi65250@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:10 PM
To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [Mon] Correct Spelling of Registration District?
Hi,
I have just found a marriage entry that I have been trying to find for
quite a while now and the registration district is Presteigne?. I am
wondering if this is the correct spelling because I would like to order the
certificate but not sure of it is correct. Also does anyone know where this
is in Wales.
Thanks Bev in very hot Melbourne.
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==============================
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I've just had a thought, you can take a look at the street index of Newport
in 1901 by going here
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wlsmon/
and clicking on the picture of the big red bookwhich is a kelly's Directory
of Newport. This was transcribed by the late Bryan Morgan - the man who
started this list way back in the last century
Ann Macey
List Admin
in Newport Gwent
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patricia Hedley" <patricia.hedley(a)ntlworld.com>
>
> Wondering if SKS could decipher an address for me on 1901 Census RG13/4956
> Page 15
> I am not sure if it reads 47 DEVON PLACE in the parish of St
> Marks also his occupation, would you say it is Plasterer.
You have read the address correctly and it definitely says plasterer as his
occupation.
Incidently I looked at Devon Place in my 1960 John's Directory of Newport
and the numbering of the houses goes like this - 42, 44, 45, 46, 48, 49 etc
so for some reason numbers 43 and 47 no longer exist. The point is that I am
trying to imagine the houses in my mind - I live just around the corner -
and I can't imagine a gap in the houses where those numbers used to be. I
will have to go and look the next time I walk into town.
Ann Macey
List Admin
in The City and County of Newport
Hi
Wondering if SKS could decipher an address for me on 1901 Census RG13/4956
Page 15
I have the family of Francis Delamare and Harriet with sons Frederick &
Reginald and I am not sure if it reads 47 DEVON PLACE in the parish of St
Marks also his occupation, would you say it is Plasterer. If anybody relates
to this family I would love to hear from you.
Regards
Patricia
Hello list,
Can anybody help me with my search for Allbert Jones and Mary J Jones. Found
them in 1881 census at Aberdare.
Albert born 1860, Mary 1859.
Would also like to find out where family was in 1901. Know of one daughter
Louisa, born in December 1901.
Who can help me.
Elwyn - Netherlands.
I have a vague idea it was demolished to make way for a colliery
>>TREDEGAR, a town, a chapelry, and a sub-district, in Bedweltyparish and district, Monmouth. The town stands on the river Sirhowy,and on the Vale of Sirhowy and the Merthyr and Abergavenny railways,12½ miles WSW of Abergavenny; was merely an insignificant village solate as 1800; grew to importance around iron-works, established by theHomfrays; acquired a tram railway southward, for the conveyance ofminerals, so early as 1802; carries on great industry in the workingand exporting of coal and iron; presents an appearance repulsive tolovers of tidiness and good scenery; comprises a central square andradiating streets; and has a head post-office,† two r. stations withtelegraph, a banking office, a town hall, a market house, a goodmodern church, eight dissenting chapels, a weekly market on Saturday,and three annual fairs. Pop. in 1851, 8,305; in 1861, 9,383. Houses,1,720. The chapelry was constituted in 1840. Pop. in 1861, 20,318.Houses, 3,643. The living is a p. curacy in the !
diocese of Llandaff.Value, £300. Patron, the Incumbent of Bedwelty. The sub-districtcomprises all the Manmoeland Ushlawrcoed sections of Bedwelty parish.Pop. in 1851, 24,544; in 1861, 28,548. Houses, 5,140. " <<
gone by 1881 ??
Hugh W
On 1/21/06, Sandra Rooke <ms321scr(a)gmail.com> wrote:> Dear List,>> I am trying to identify the location of Ushlawrcoed where my ancestor,> Edward Richards, was living per the 1841 census. Edward was a miner> and given the following, it appears that he and his family were living> in one of the cottages built by the collieries (or iron works) for> their workers.>> I have a physical description from an extract of The National> Gazetteer (1868) from Genuki.org.uk which lists Ushlawrcoed as a> hamlet in the parish of Bedwellty... 7 miles west of Pontypool and 8> from Tredegar. On a modern day map this would seem to place it> somewhere in the area of Aberbargoed.>> I have also searched the 1841 district in which he resided for other> clues which are as follows:> Almost all households in the enum. district are listed> on Howard's Row; those few not on Howard's Row are listed on Cwm Shon> Matthew.> Super. Registrar's District.:Abergavenny> R!
egistrar's District: Tredegar> Enumeration district: 32> Description of district: Cwm Shon Mathw (abbreviation> for Matthew).>> The previous enumeration district (no. 31) clearly> consists of the homes of miners.>> I have also tried to locate Ushlawrcoed at old-maps.co.uk but it is> not able to locate the hamlet by this spelling and a few others.> Unfortunately my internet connection is too slow to browse through the> map.>> Any help will be greatly appreciated.>> Sandi> upstate New York, U.S.A.>>> ==== MONMOUTHSHIRE Mailing List ====> To subscribe/unsubscribe on this list follow the instructions in your welcome message.>> ==============================> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more:> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx>>
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Dear List,
I am trying to identify the location of Ushlawrcoed where my ancestor,
Edward Richards, was living per the 1841 census. Edward was a miner
and given the following, it appears that he and his family were living
in one of the cottages built by the collieries (or iron works) for
their workers.
I have a physical description from an extract of The National
Gazetteer (1868) from Genuki.org.uk which lists Ushlawrcoed as a
hamlet in the parish of Bedwellty... 7 miles west of Pontypool and 8
from Tredegar. On a modern day map this would seem to place it
somewhere in the area of Aberbargoed.
I have also searched the 1841 district in which he resided for other
clues which are as follows:
Almost all households in the enum. district are listed
on Howard's Row; those few not on Howard's Row are listed on Cwm Shon
Matthew.
Super. Registrar's District.:Abergavenny
Registrar's District: Tredegar
Enumeration district: 32
Description of district: Cwm Shon Mathw (abbreviation
for Matthew).
The previous enumeration district (no. 31) clearly
consists of the homes of miners.
I have also tried to locate Ushlawrcoed at old-maps.co.uk but it is
not able to locate the hamlet by this spelling and a few others.
Unfortunately my internet connection is too slow to browse through the
map.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Sandi
upstate New York, U.S.A.