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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:17:31 -0700 (PDT), Melanie Tucker
<melanieptucker(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Also, while we're talking about pronunciation, could someone please tell
> me how to pronounce Mynyddyslwyn?
Hi Melanie,
The last part of the name doesn't have an exact equivalent in English but
if you say :
mun-ith-is-loin
(with th as in 'this' not as in 'thick') you'll be pretty close.
Cheers,
Glyn Hale
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Ymddiheuriadau am "cross-posting" (ac am safon fy Nghymraeg).
Mae'r Llyfrgell Genedlaethol newydd lawnsio "Trosedd a chosb", cronfa
data o enwau, troseddau a chosbau yn ffeiliau cachar y Sesiwn Fawr yng
Nghymru rhwng 1730 a diddymiad y llys ym 1830:
http://www.llgc.org.uk/sesiwn_fawr/index_c.htm
Roedd Llys y Sesiwn Fawr fersiwn Cymreig o llysoedd yr assize yn siroedd
Lloegr. Caeth y llys hefyd rhan o awdurdod y Kings Bench yng Nghymru.
Felly, roedd y llys yn gallu clywed bob math o achosion o fân-ladrad i
uchel-frad.
Dydy'r cofnodion ddim yn cynnwys achosion wedi'u clywed yn sir Fynwy,
oherwydd roedd y sir hon rhan o gylchdaith assizes Rhydychen
(ffynhonnell y celwydd bod sir Fynwy'n rhan o Lloegr). Beth bynnag, mae
'na achosion o diddordeb sir Fynyw, Lloegr a llefydd eraill dramor.
Mae 'na tipyn bach llai na 21,000 o achosion. Mae'r rhan fwyaf o'r
maesydd ar y tudalen chwilio yn "free-text", felly does dim angen
"wild-cards". Er enghraifft, bydd Ben yn un o'r maesydd enwau (erlynydd
a throseddwr) yn dychwelyd yr enwau cyntaf/cyfenwau Benjamin ac
Ebenezer, ac y cyfenwau Benion a Dolben.
Stephen Benham
------ English ------
Apologies for cross-posting.
The National Library of Wales has just launched "Trosedd a chosb / Crime
and punishment", a database of the criminals, crimes and punishments in
the gaol files of the Court of Great Sessions in Wales from 1730 until
its abolition in 1830: http://www.llgc.org.uk/sesiwn_fawr/index_c.htm
The Court of Great Sessions was Wales's equivalent to the English
assizes. It also had part of the jurisdiction of the Kings Bench in
Wales, and so could try all types of crimes, from petty thefts to high
treason.
The records of the court do not include cases tried in Monmouthshire
since that county formed part of the Oxford Assize circuit (the origin
of the canard that Monmouthshire was part of England). There are,
however, a number of cases of Monmouthshire, English and other foreign
interest on the database.
There are just shy of 21,000 cases. Most of the fields are free-text, so
there is no need for wild-cards. So for example, Ben in one of the names
fields (accused and prosecutor) will return the forenames/surnames
Benjamin and Ebenezer, and the surnames Benion and Dolben.
Stephen Benham
Does anyone recognize any of these names?
In all the records I find the surname as Rees but our family has adopted the Rhys spelling now.
William Rees b. circa 1821 Maesycwmmer/Mynyddyslwyn d. 1896 Trelyn, Bedwelty, Monmouthshire
married Hannah Tippings or Harris/Harries (previous marriage) b. circa 1825/26 Llangynydr or Beaufort? d. 1897 Trelyn, Bedwelty, Monmouthshire
Family lived in Trelyn, Bedwelty (at least for the 1861-1891 census)
Children:
Thomas b. 1853
John b. 1856
Benjamin b. 1858 m. Jane Richards
Mary Ann b. 1860
Rees b. 1862
Richard b. 1864--lived in India (my line)
Henry b. 1867
Thanks,
Melanie Tucker
Salt Lake City, Utah
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I would be very grateful if any lister with the 1871 FHS census index could look up
Emily MORGAN, 21
With a bit of luck she might be with a William MORGAN, 21, or possibly with HOLLAND relatives.
Thanks in advance
David Hamblyn
Vienna, Austria
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MAES-Y-CWMMER is a hamlet of the parish of Bedwas, 4½ miles north, partly included in the ecclesiastical parish of Fleur-de-lis, and has a chapel of ease, built of stone, and consisting of chancel, nave, porch and a turret,, containing one bell; there are 200 sittings. The Rev. John Archibald Williams, L.Th., of Durham University, has been curate-in-charge since 1897. Here are Baptist, Welsh Congregational and Calvinistic Methodist chapels.
County Police: Osmon Lawrence, constable in charge
Post, M.O. & T.O., T.M.O., Express Delivery, Parcel Post, S. B. & Annuity & Insurance Office, Main street, Maes-y-cwmmer.
Mrs. H. Morgan, postmistress.
Letters received through Cardiff; dispatched 11.30 a.m. & 4.35 & 6.40 p.m.
Board School (mixed & infants'), built in 1879, for 250 children; average attendance, 210 boys & girls & 95 infants
William Augustus Davies, master; Miss Lily Knight, infants' mistre ss
Railway Station: Benjamin Newton, station master
PRIVATE
Hughes Rev. Thomas John (Congregational)
Jones R. H. Mrs., Summerfield hall
Lewis Rev. Ambrose A.T.S., (Baptist), 11 North avenue
Pigott Frederick, Gellydeg house
Price John, Maes-y-cwmmer house
Richards Thomas Lewis
White Thomas Phillips J.P
Williams Rev. John Archibald, L.Th., (curate in charge), Oakley
COMMERCIAL
Batten Edward, blacksmith
Belch Charles, coal dealer & haulier
Collings Wm. Saml., grocer & draper
Davies David John,boot repairer & shopkeeper
Davies Evan, builder, Fairgrove cottage
Davies Jane (Mrs.), farmer, Gelly-deg
Davies Margaret (Miss), shopkeeper
Davies Mary (Mrs.) & William, farmers, Frwd
Davies Watkin, farmer, Gellideg Ucha
Davies William Clement, commercial traveller
Edwards Richard, farmer, Cwm-du
Griffiths Thomas, insurance agent
Gwerna Colliery Co. (G. Seaborne, managing director)
Harris John, builder
Hunt Joseph, hair dresser
Jenkins John, farmer, Gellydigishaf
Jenkins Thomas, Junction inn
Jones R. H. (Mrs.), The South Wales school for girls, Summerfield hall
Jones Samuel, grocer
Jones Thomas, grocer, draper & agent for W. & A. Gilbey Limited, wine & spirit merchants
Lewis Ann (Mrs.), Pellan farm
Lewis Henry, butcher
Lewis Sidney Ernest Chivers, manufacturer of lime, salt, naphtha & charcoal. Chemical works
Lewis Thomas, farmer, Duffryn
Macredie John, farmer, Drehure
Morgan Arthur Lane, commercial traveller, Brooklands
Morgan Harriet (Mrs.), shopkeeper & Post office
Morgan Lewis, grocer
Rees Thomas, Angel P.H
Richards Daniel & Co., colliery proprietors, Gelly-deg colliery
RichaTds Lewis, farmer, Pencwarra
Roberts Samuel, shopkeeper
South Wales Woollen Mills Co. Lim., flannel manufacturers
Stephens Lewis, beer retailer
Thomas Jacob, tea dealer
Thomas James, farmer, Tyrhiwan
Thomas Thomas, farmer
Williams Levi, china dealer
Williams Richard, Butchers Arms P.H
Williams William, farmer, Tyncoed
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From: Melanie Tucker <melanieptucker(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Myseecoomer?
Also, while we're talking about pronunciation, could
someone please tell me how to pronounce Mynyddyslwyn?
<snip>
I believe it is pronounced:
Minith-is-l-win
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Graham
Would someone with the complete index of the above census please check for James NELMES age about 28 yrs.
Thankyou
Elvery Chambers
Perth Western Australia
Hi Melanie
I would think that its Maesycymer and the other would be pronounced Minidsloin That is about the nearest that I can pronounce it!! Perhaps someone else could tell you the location, not too hot on that!!
regards
Hazel
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From: Melanie Tucker <melanieptucker(a)yahoo.com>
To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [Mon] Myseecoomer?
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:17:31 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Hello all,
>
> My mother-in-law just remembered that an ancestor was born in Myseecoomer. Yes, I know this spelling is totally off--but this is how she remembers it. Does anyone have an idea of where this is or what town this would be?
>
> Also, while we're talking about pronunciation, could someone please tell me how to pronounce Mynyddyslwyn?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Melanie Tucker
> Salt Lake City, Utah
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Pam,
You are absolutely wonderful. You have single handed solved the mystery of
W.H.MORGAN. You see, he is not in the 1881 with Edward and Matilda, so I
didn't know he existed. Other than his Will, which gives the names of all
his siblings and their children also,and my mother telling me about her old,
'VERY OLD, UNCLE WILL'. Not to mention that Llewellyn had another name
also...I have been unable to find him anywhere, and now I know why.
PHEW! what utter joy.
I think that W.H.MORGAN was a solicitor in Newport. He seems to have owned
or leased a lot of land, some of which was part of the Tredegar estate. Mum
said that he always had a rose in his buttonhole, and that for all his age,
he acknowledged her everytime he saw her.
Thank you so much Pam. I am indebted to you.
Shalom
Phyllis
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From: "Pam Thornbury" <pthorn(a)ihug.co.nz>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Mon] Looking for EDWARD SIDNEY MORGAN
Apologies if you see this twice as it is cross posted on two lists.
I am contemplating buying the 2nd version of the NBI (I already have the first).
Can anyone who has the first version, who has now bought the second version, tell me whether they feel Monmouthshire and or Shropshire has a representation on the CD which would justify a purchase?
Lynne Mee
New Zealand
Hello all,
My mother-in-law just remembered that an ancestor was born in Myseecoomer. Yes, I know this spelling is totally off--but this is how she remembers it. Does anyone have an idea of where this is or what town this would be?
Also, while we're talking about pronunciation, could someone please tell me how to pronounce Mynyddyslwyn?
Thanks,
Melanie Tucker
Salt Lake City, Utah
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Hello Liz,
thank you so much for this information which is very useful indeed.
Now, a very dear friend of mine has told me that she was born on
"Brook's Avenue, Newport" in 1924. as I have found her father and a
number of other extended family members, listed in Brook's
Land/Corporation Road, in 1924, I am assuming that this is the correct
place but does anyone know if there was actually a Brook's Avenue?
My friend's birth was not registered by the way.
Thanks for passing my message on Liz!
kind regards,
Greetings
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I have just had a wonderful message from a geologist surveying old gold mines in Egypt and photos of the grave of my grandmothers 1st husband, William John Batt, William was an Welshman who went to Egypt to work in the gold mines in the early 1900's. Sadly he died of fever and was buried out there. We only knew that he had been buried somewhere near the Aswan Dam. This Geologist found Williams grave together with four other Europeans who had also died at an old disused mine.He found my name on the net on GenForum from 2001. He has given me their names and I thought that just maybe, they may have been Welsh and somebody may be looking for them.
G Eustice died 11the June 1906 age 36
Augustus de Morgan MD died 20th Sept. 1906 age 32
Walter Rowland Owen died 9th June 1905 age 26
Norman M H Whyte died 8th Sept 1906 age 28
William died 17th March 1906 of fever, so maybe they all succumbed including the doctor. How sad.
The gold mine was called Umm-Garayat and its in Southern Egypt about 180km from Aswan.
Hope this helps someone, would love to know if anyone can connect to these men.
Pat
in cold Kent
Hi All,
I totally agree with Hugh re British-Genealogy's Forums. As Hugh said this
is owned by Archive CD Books Ltd and run by a Rod Neep.
They are not the way to go if you want a list to remain like this where you
can have questions answered and not see just a few people take over the list
and totally ignore others whose only interest is finding their ancestors. I
did belong to one of their lists but it has been totally taken over by a few
people who do nothing but talk about there own topics and ignore anyone who
wants to ask a genealogy question which does not fit in with their ideas.
It seems that now this Rod Neep is trying very hard to convince everyone
that the only way to go is to have Forums. He claims that people are not
receiving his lists because of the spam problems. Strangely while subscribed
to one of his lists I had no trouble receiving his lists but the people who
are always using it continuely for there own purposes were having trouble.
Most of these people were in England and Canada. Others I know who just sit
on the side lines did not have the problem of not receiving the lists
(perhaps a gremlin is at work). Myself I am sticking to the Rootsweb sites
and if they also go to Forums I will no longer be using lists.
Brian.
Thanks for the tip, but without a specific location for the family, it looks
like I'll just have to wait for a county-wide index to pop up on a
commercial service like Ancestry. I counted 18 different volumes I'd need
to search through. I suppose it could be done!
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From: "Ann Macey" <annmacey(a)ntlworld.com>
To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Mon] 1871 Census Index
> Gwent Family History Society have indexed the 1871 Census and produced the
> results on microfiche - they intend to put it onto Cd-ROM just as soon as
> the last little bit is completed - that's the bit around Rumney, St
> Mellons on the boundary between Glam and Mon.
> Gwent FHS website can be found at
> http://www.gwentfhs.info
> Ann Macey
> List Admin
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> Joe Orfant wrote:
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>> Does anyone have any insights into the when/where/how of a general names
>> index to the 1871 census for Monmouthshire?
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Ann wrote-
>Why does Mon not default as the reply address - because I am admin and I
>don't want it to. Mostly because I hope it will reduce the number of
>messages of the *me too* variety where people simply click on reply and add
>their comment filling up the archives with copy after copy of the same
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>Ann
I suppose there are pros and cons either way but, at the moment, I am
sitting with 126 unopened messages and at least half do not have responses
(replies must have been sent directly to the sender) Unless they're asking
for help, I'll just delete them.
Regards, Bill
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But Rootsweb already have forums - they call them message boards - and
they run alongside the mailing lists as the British-Genealogy ones do.
and as for gremlins preventing certain people from getting their mail
from B-G, I am one of the people who had difficulty receiving mail from
them
I think enough has been said on this subject now, let's get back to
family history
Ann
Brian Wiles wrote:
> . Myself I am sticking to the Rootsweb sites and if they also go to
> Forums I will no longer be using lists.
>
The british-genealogy message forum website is free and without strings.
You log in so that if necessary and sometimes it is necessary, the
people who prey on email addys and the few nasty people there are around
have to make an effort to get at the site - something most of them
cannot be othered to do. As for contacting later for commercial gain,
well I cannot see how as Archive CD Books is a not for profit company.
Why does Mon not default as the reply address - because I am admin and I
don't want it to. Mostly because I hope it will reduce the number of
messages of the *me too* variety where people simply click on reply and
add their comment filling up the archives with copy after copy of the
same message.
Ann
Bill Gordon wrote:
> If websites like this are free then why do we have to log in? So they
> can contact you later for commercial gains?
>
> Ann, as list adminitrater why does Mon. not default as the reply address?
> Regards, Bill