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Dear Ron,
Just WHO was sad enough to query the way you spelt a Welsh word? I am angry
and embarrassed that you were ever subjected to such a criticism, and please
Ron, don't EVER feel you have to write such a thing again.
I really do feel most uncomfortable that we have such pedants on the loose.
Best wishes
Bryan in Caerwent
PS: How do you give a Welsh speaker an immediate command of English? Just
shout "Fire"...
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From: "Ron Davies" <welt7(a)shaw.ca>
To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:00 PM
Subject: [Mon] AN APOLOGY
Dear Friends
It has come to my intention that I have, on occasion, inadvertently
mis-spelled Welsh when referring to those whose who live in, and.or
have come from, Wales. In checking back, I notice that I recently
had one of those senior's moments and mis-sent a message to the
above named lists. While in the body of said message, I wrote
`Welsh', I believe I became a bit flustered when I wrote the
introductory explanation for failed cross posting. I mistakenly typed
`Welch' the surname of one of my best friends when it ought to
have typed `Welsh'.
As I have told the complainant, in a private apology, I seem to have
reached an age where my fingers and brain don't always co-operate.
I sometimes type what I'm not thinking and even write what I'm not
intending while doing crossword puzzles. It can be frustrating to one
who has prided himself for being mentally alert and a writer.
I want you all to know that I am proud to have Welsh blood in
my veins; I'm appreciative of all Welsh folk who have helped me
over the years; and I would never intentionally refer to you folks
as Welch nor more than I'd refer to a Scotsman as Scotch.
To all, I unreservedly apologize. To those whom I've offended, I
can but say `sorry, I'll ask my fingers to be more careful'.
Ron Davies
Surrey, BC
Canada
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Dear Folks: Since when do we have to find fault with every error on our genealogy quest. I think we are involved with this site to help people find their lost ancestors and to encourage them to plod on. Let's get fid of this pettiness. Ron, we all have senior moments and I don't dare think we have to apologize for them. All the best. Vicki
Trying to find siblings and or parents of William Bessex, born Redbrook 1808. All I know of him is he married a Frances (surname unknown) in 1832, possibly in Bristol. Frances may have come from Chepstow.
Dorothy Bessex Victoria Canada
Early in June this year,
while I was enquiring about Monmouth, a total Stranger gave me so much
help.
Then after arriving in Tintern he called where we were staying as I
had told him the name and phone number. By that time the narrow roads,
cars, fatigue, etc. (age..??!!) had made me want to be at "HOME" I was
in tears when he called to see how we were doing. This was Sunday the
13th in the evening.
What a jewel! He lives in Carewent and said he would show us the
places we wanted to see.
My G. mother was born in Tintern. I thought we would be led to
Trellech, etc.. Surprise to us, he took us in his car, showed us
places we would have never found, took wonderful pictures, took us to
lunch with his wife (I had planned to buy his), back to his home and
was so wonderful!! He even sent some pictures to AZ and messages to my
husband. He in turn forwarded them to interested and concerned family.
I was there with out eldest of seven (daughters), wonderful daughter
that wanted to come.. While we visited with "Vi" his wife he made a CD
of the pictures for me to take and let me email a message home home!!
I came away with more than I ever thought possible. In fact what I
planned would take three days, we covered in one!!
It wasn't comfortable for him or us. We brought some of our AZ heat
(108 degrees here) with us and they said it was a "heat Wave". The
clothing I had brought was just inappropiate. He took me to where I
could get a cooler shirt. This was in Chepstow! We saw the castle and
went to a special "shop" where he knows the owner to buy a few
souveniers..We would have NEVER attempted to drive there alone!!
Never had we expected this kind of warm, wonderful people!
(Nadine was another with detailes of the Wye valley online.)
His name is Bryan Morgan! I hope he doesn't mind my telling this about
him and his family. We met some of them; daughters-in-law and Grand
children!! Sons were at their jobs.
Thank You again Bryan and family!! I hope and pray we are able to take
a lesson from you!! A real blessing in our lives and a Jewel of
Monmouth! God bless you and your family.
Jill Christensen, AZ. USA
New address:
jilbechris(a)stompit.net
I have ancestors who converted to the Mormon faith in the mid-1840's when the missionaries began working the area. My 3X great grandmother, Ruth Bevan Ward Bellis was a member of the Tredegar Branch of the Mormon Church from about 1845 until she came to the U.S. in 1866 and settled in Salt Lake City, Utah. I would like to hear from others who had ancestors who converted to the Mormon faith and/or who have local knowledge of the subject.
Regards,
Judy in the U.S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sally Walton" <ncwalt(a)dnet.net>
To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>; <GLAMORGAN-D(a)rootsweb.com>;
<BlaenauGwent-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: Thomas williams
> I am trying to find my ggreat grandparents, Thomas Williams and wife,
Margaret (Thomas). Would someone kindly see if they might be found in Ebbw
Vale or any area in 1851? I don't know ages. But they were born "S. Wales"
about 1830, as their daughter was born 1862 in PA. I would be grateful for
any family information-census or marriage around 1850. Thanks Sally
> Murphy, North Carolina,USA
>
> ______________________________
Dear Friends
It has come to my intention that I have, on occasion, inadvertently
mis-spelled Welsh when referring to those whose who live in, and.or
have come from, Wales. In checking back, I notice that I recently
had one of those senior's moments and mis-sent a message to the
above named lists. While in the body of said message, I wrote
`Welsh', I believe I became a bit flustered when I wrote the
introductory explanation for failed cross posting. I mistakenly typed
`Welch' the surname of one of my best friends when it ought to
have typed `Welsh'.
As I have told the complainant, in a private apology, I seem to have
reached an age where my fingers and brain don't always co-operate.
I sometimes type what I'm not thinking and even write what I'm not
intending while doing crossword puzzles. It can be frustrating to one
who has prided himself for being mentally alert and a writer.
I want you all to know that I am proud to have Welsh blood in
my veins; I'm appreciative of all Welsh folk who have helped me
over the years; and I would never intentionally refer to you folks
as Welch nor more than I'd refer to a Scotsman as Scotch.
To all, I unreservedly apologize. To those whom I've offended, I
can but say `sorry, I'll ask my fingers to be more careful'.
Ron Davies
Surrey, BC
Canada
Hello Rosemary and Mike,
The Joseph Leonard you say was born 1829 at Horsley ,does not appear on the Gloucestershire Family History 1851 Census.So I would think he had moved out of the County by then.
On that census their is,living at Downend Whiteway,Horsley:-
Joseph Leonard,Head,Married,46,Farmers Servant,born Brighton,Sussex.
Sarah """""""",Wife, ,45,Woolen Cloth Weaver,born Horsley,Gls.
Sarah """""""", Dau,Unmarried,21,Ladies Servant,born Portsmouth,Hampshire.
Mary """""""""""""""""""""""",13,Factory Girl,born Minchinhampton,Gls.
Ann """""""""""""""""""""""", 9, Scholar,born Horsley,Gls.
That is the only Joseph that appears on the census,could he possibly be your Joseph's father ?Hope this is of help,
Malcolm Brinkworth
The following was written by an uncle of mine (now deceased). He and his
fiancée lived in the same road in Newport:
1940 Jun 28 letter from Bert at 16 Christchurch Road to future wife, Betty:
³Well, darling, this week is drawing to a close. It has been more like a
month to me, consisting of bed to work, and not too much bed with the Air
Raid warnings. I have had Dad to dig out the trench for our Air Raid
Shelter. It is facing the coal house wall, that is, where Mrs Rosser had our
strip of land. I have to work tomorrow until 5.0 pm. Would you mind, love,
when you finish work, to come down, so that I may with the help of Dad erect
the shelter. Should you be unable to come I shall do a little and leave it
at 8.0 pm.....²
1940 Sep 25 letter from Bert to Betty: ³Once again we have to thank God for
our safety. They sounded as though they were very near, although the first
was more so than the second. I did not risk coming up this evening, as he
was circling rather close when I was ready. Well, darling, at the time of
writing the siren is just started again, so I must go down. All¹s well once
again, love, or at least I hope so. I got rather annoyed tonight with
mother, because I told her a couple of times that the plane was overhead,
and still no attempt to come out in the shelter was made. When the bombs
were falling I had to go and tell her again. In fact they had fallen before
ever mother was in the shelter. I went on about the work I went to in making
the shelter comfortable, and yet they are not making use of it, as though
nothing had been done. Well, darling, I am feeling terribly tired so will
close now....²
Glyn Hatherall
Ealing, London UK
glyn(a)hatherall.org.uk
scarrott(a)one-name.org
I have received my g-g-grandparents marriage cert from May 1838 George Waters & Elizabeth Cross. They were married at St.Woolos and their residence was given as High St. Newport. They both have their ages shown as "full" . Their fathers were George Waters and William Cross.
Is anyone researching either the Waters or Cross families ?
Also as 1838 is pretty near the end of the line in terms of nationally registered BDM, are there any suggestions on where to look to take it back further ?
Many Thanks
Mike
I am tryinf to find my ggreat grandparents, Thomas Williams and wife, Margaret (Thomas). Would someone kindly see if they might be found in Ebbw Vale in 1951? I don't know ages. thanks Sally
Murphy, North Carolina,USA
Hi Rosemary,
I noticed your surname of Leonard a surname which I am researching, do you
have any of these in your family tree:-
Harriet Leonard born 1864 Llangeneth
Charles Leonard born 1869 Mynyddislwyn
Henry Leonard born 1871 Glyncorrwg
Elizabeth Ann Leonard born 1878 born Glyncorrwg
Children of Joseph Leonard born 1829 Horsley Gloucester
Best Wishes
Mike
( Island of Gozo )
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemary Leonard" <rosemarygleonard(a)btopenworld.com>
To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:19 AM
Subject: [Mon] Newport During the Second World War
> My mother told me that Newport was often bombed because of the docks. She
lived near Beechwood Park. A bomb destroyed the house in Woodland Park,
killing the owner and his housekeeper. I know of two families, Phillips and
Gimlett, who lost many members when their houses received direct hits.
Incendiary bombs also fell in the area. Part of the ceiling in my mother's
house fell down. There were two large air raid shelters near my house in St
Julian's Road .My mother went to school on Stow Hill and the girls had to
go to local houses during air raids. There was an air raid during her School
Certificate Chemistry exam. The girls carried on through it for they were
more worried about the exam than the air raid!
> Rosemary Leonard
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My mother told me that Newport was often bombed because of the docks. She lived near Beechwood Park. A bomb destroyed the house in Woodland Park, killing the owner and his housekeeper. I know of two families, Phillips and Gimlett, who lost many members when their houses received direct hits. Incendiary bombs also fell in the area. Part of the ceiling in my mother's house fell down. There were two large air raid shelters near my house in St Julian's Road .My mother went to school on Stow Hill and the girls had to go to local houses during air raids. There was an air raid during her School Certificate Chemistry exam. The girls carried on through it for they were more worried about the exam than the air raid!
Rosemary Leonard
Dear Listers,
This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales', just uploaded onto my
website, features:
1. The extensive municipal cemetery just outside Aberdare in the county
of Glamorgan. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales'
in February 1998 (nine photos).
2. A walk down High Street in Blaina, Monmouthshire. This feature was
first shown on 'Images of Wales' in February 1999 (five photos).
To view the Retrospective webpages, go to
http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/retro/retro.htm
Enjoy!!
Best wishes,
John
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John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK
E-mail: wfha(a)clara.co.uk
Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/
Welsh Family History Archive (WFHA): http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/
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Hello Mike
Yes, I'm researching my Coslett/Costlett ancestors in Monmouthshire in the
19th century.
My line based around Pontypool/Trevethin - I have a few now - let me know if
you have some - or your interests,
Mark
mark(a)apiltree.screaming.net
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:29 AM
Subject: [Mon] Coslett
>
> Hi Listers,
>
> Is anyone out there researching the surname Coslett, late 1800's ?
>
> Mike B.
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Would be extremely grateful if someone could tell me who was living at 15 Dolphin Street, Newport. My g grandparents Reuben EVANS and Elizabeth SARGENT were resident in May 1872 when they married. Hoping the census might show if either family were resident and where they were born!
TIA
St Woolos did not become a Cathedral until 1949 and is still the parish
church. The Bansewell area of Newport is situated on the side of Stow
Hill and St Woolos is near the top and is the C of E church for the
parish. I am not explaining this very well considering I live close
enough to be able to see St Woolos from the ned of my street.
Ann Macey
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