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Pob hwyl! Has anyone any info. about Samuel ALLAWAY who was born in
Ruardean(glos. but on the1901 census was shown as living in Abersychan and
was a coal miner. Sylvia Morgan(nee ALLAWAY)
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Sean Farrell <sean.farrell(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
Fully believe now that my gg grandfather John COCHLIN's birth was not
registered. He is listed in the 1851 census as aged 15 months and born
in Rhymney, Mon. I believe the family crossed over into Glamorgan
shortly afterwards. I have trawled through the birth registers at FRC
back to 1846 and had no luck.
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Dear Sean,
Are you aware that the General Register Office indexes (which you
searched at the FRC) are incomplete?
If you haven't already done so, I suggest you contact the *local*
register office which holds the original birth registers for Rhymney,
and ask them to search for the birth in the period mid 1849 to mid 1850.
I'm not sure which office will be involved, but it's likely to be one of
the three whose addresses and phone numbers I've listed below. A quick
phone call should sort out which office has the registers for births in
Rhymney circa 1850.
Assuming the record is found, you'll then need to purchase the birth
certificate to obtain the relevant information about John Cochlin.
Torfaen Register Office
Hanbury Road
Pontypool NP4 6YG
Tel 01495 762937
Monmouth Register Office
Coed-Glas
Firs Road
Abergavenny NP7 5LE
Tel 01873 735435
Blaeneau Gwent Register Office
The Grove
Church Street
Tredegar NP2 3DS
Tel 01495 722305
Source: GENUKI website at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/RegOffice/
Kind regards,
John
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Hi There,
Fully believe now that my gg grandfather John COCHLIN's birth was not registered. He is listed in the 1851 census as aged 15 months and born in Rhymney, Mon. I believe the family crossed over into Glamorgan shortly afterwards. I have trawled through the birth registers at FRC back to 1846 and had no luck.
If anybody has access to the RC baptisms in either the Rhymney MON or Penydarren GLA areas I would be most grateful for any help.
Sean
Dear Sally,
Have you considered the possibility that Philip Coleman might have been
buried in a nonconformist chapel graveyard or in a municipal cemetery
rather than in the parish churchyard?
The fact that he married in the Established Church - St Cadoc's at
Trevethin - does not necessarily mean he was a member of the Anglican
Church. He may, for example, have been a Baptist, Methodist, or Welsh
Independent, and may have been buried in one of their own chapel burial
yards. Or, like many residents of industrial South Wales in the late
19th century, he may have been buried in a non-sectarian municipal
cemetery such as Panteg Cemetery, just 1 mile east of Gwent Street.
Incidentally, St Cadoc's Church, Trevethin, still exists. It was largely
rebuilt in the mid 19th century, so the present church is only 150 years
old. The original parish registers, from 1655 to 1939, are deposited at
the Gwent County Record Office in Cwmbran.
Gwent Street is in the parish of Trevethin.
Kind regards,
John
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From: "Sally Mahoney" <sardine(a)earthlink.net>
To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:50 PM
Subject: [Mon] Need death search advice
Philip Coleman is found in the 1881 census on Gwent St., Pontypool. He
had lived in that area for 27-29 years (his daughter, my
great-great-grandmother, was married in St. Cadoc, Trevethin, in August
1854 "according to the rites and ceremones of the established church").
He was age 68 per the 1881 census, actually born 16 June 1811 in
Biddestone, Wiltshire. He is not found in the 1891 census in
Monmouthshire, or anywhere else, so presumably he had died. In Salt Lake
City, a thorough search of UK death records on LDS microfilm turned up
several of that name (and variations), but none came close to the right
age nor did they die in Monmouthshire or what seemed to be nearby. The
microfilms go up to around WWI, when he would have been over 100.
The microfilmed records of St. Cadoc, Trevethin, where his daughter was
married, stop well short of 1900. Presumably he attended that church,
though perhaps not. Did this church still exist after ca. 1880 -- when
microfilms stop? He presumably would have been buried from it if it did,
unless he moved to another parish. Would 1881's Gwent Street be in that
other parish, and if so, what would have been its name? Any suggestions
as to the next research step gratefully accepted, off-line or on and
Sally
Washington state, US
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Philip Coleman is found in the 1881 census on Gwent St., Pontypool. He
had lived in that area for 27-29 years (his daughter, my
great-great-grandmother, was married in St. Cadoc, Trevethin, in August
1854 "according to the rites and ceremones of the established church").
He was age 68 per the 1881 census, actually born 16 June 1811 in
Biddestone, Wiltshire. He is not found in the 1891 census in
Monmouthshire, or anywhere else, so presumably he had died. In Salt Lake
City, a thorough search of UK death records on LDS microfilm turned up
several of that name (and variations), but none came close to the right
age nor did they die in Monmouthshire or what seemed to be nearby. The
microfilms go up to around WWI, when he would have been over 100.
The microfilmed records of St. Cadoc, Trevethin, where his daughter was
married, stop well short of 1900. Presumably he attended that church,
though perhaps not. Did this church still exist after ca. 1880 -- when
microfilms stop? He presumably would have been buried from it if it did,
unless he moved to another parish. Would 1881's Gwent Street be in that
other parish, and if so, what would have been its name? Any suggestions
as to the next research step gratefully accepted, off-line or on and
Sally
Washington state, US
Hello Sylvia,
I posted the mail re Charles Hodges but I think the John Hodges that
your friend is looking for is not of my line. However, please send more info
as I do have contact with other Hodges researchers who have ancestors in
Monmouthshire.
My family were almost entirely came from Risca, Machen an up as far as
Blaina from 1807 onwards. Before that they came from Nailsea in Somerset as
far back as 1777. I have come to a sudden halt at that year as there are no
Parish records available to take me back any further.
What area in the 1851 census is Nye interested in.
Regards,
Llew Hodges
Ravenshoe
Far North Queensland
Australia
Hi My friend, Nye Hodges is researching his family and would like to get in
touch with whoever enquired about the HODGES. John HODGES shown in the 1851
census was his gt. gt. grandfather and Samuel was his gt.grandfather.
Unfortunately he doesn`t use e-mail but I will forward them to him as he
lives nearby. Sylvia
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I hope someone can help me I need to find a marriage for John LILLY born
in England and a Eliza WATERS or BOULTER about 1850 or 1851 in Victoria .
On my Gr. Grandfathers death certificate her name was listed as Eliza
WATERS. on the 1851 census for Victoria she is living with her mother
Susannah BOULTER. Could her mother been married twice? or is this the
right John & Eliza?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Elizabeth Donahue
Ottawa, Illinois
Can anyone help with a census look-up please? I am studying a guy called Robert JONES who some history books say was born at Ty Newydd, Clytha, Mon., whilst others say Penrhos.
On the ground in Clytha are two Ty Newydds today and I'm trying to find out if they are relevant, and one of them is the real one. I have checked the 1861 census and find a Robert (39) and Hannah Jones of Ty Newydd Farm, Clytha, and son Robert (3). His parents are given as being born in Llantilio, probably Crossenny, but he is listed as Penrhos.
Could SKS look in the 1851 census and see if the Jones were at Ty Newydd then? Unlikely. And for census purposes was Clytha considered to be Penrhos? It's too far off I would have thought.
Many thanks
Neil Lewis, Montreal
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Hello Stan,
There are 'mysteriously' fiches missing on 1851 index for Bedwellty and
that is why no one has been able to pick up Sarah Moore, I would
suspect;) Pam Thornbury beware!
We have the complete 1851 census at Ebbw Vale so I am sending you what I
believe is Sarah Moore and family at Tredegar, Bedwellty to your off
list address.
best regards
Barrie, Gwent
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(comprises, Ebbw Vale, Pontypool, Chepstow, Newport, Abergavenny/Monmouth,
Blackwood.Of interest to anyone who has ancestral connections with the old
county of Monmouthshire.--
Hello Barrie,
During the course of your research, did you find any Moseley's (any
spelling)??
Regards,
Ian
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From: "barrie" <bj(a)reverendvox.demon.co.uk>
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Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Mon] David MORRIS and Mary MORRIS
Hello James,
I have completed transcribtions for Carmel (Welsh Independent),
Llangattock (Beaufort) for baptisms 1826-1837 and found the following
baptisms for Morris's:-
07-05-1830, John, David & Mary Morris Pen-y-Cae
13-10-1833, Amelia, Thomas & Eliz Morris Pen-y-Cae
17-08-1831, David, David & Mary Morris Pen-y-Cae
19-02-1837, William, David & Mary Morris Pen-y-Cae
29-05-1836, Naomi, Joseph & Mary Morris Pen-y-Cae
21-02-1836, Margaret, Thomas & Elizabeth Morris Forge Pen-y-Cae
These baptisms do not appear on Gwent RO deposits. I still have to work
on burials and marriages ,so sorry, can't help you there.
best regards
Barrie, Gwent
In message James Evans <Blorenge(a)btopenworld.com> writes:-
>Dear List,
>
>I am looking for the marriage of David MORRIS (born circa 1802 in Pembs.)
and
>Mary MORRIS (born circa 1808 in Cards.) circa 1825-30, presumably in
>Monmouthshire. Their first child John was born in Aberystruth in 1830 and
>christened at Carmel Chapel (Llangattock, Brecs.) the same year. The birth
>certificate of their later child Ebenezer (b. 1846) records that Mary was
born a
>MORRIS as well as marrying one. If this is correct it means that the David
M.
>and Mary Edwards married in 1828 in Aberystruth cannot be the couple that I
am
>looking for. Does anyone know of a marriage between a David MORRIS and Mary
>MORRIS?
>
>Best wishes
>James
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Could SKS search for the birth details (and any other details available) of :
(Dr) Henry Amelius Powell ROBERTSON born circa 1815/16 at Monmouth, Monmouthshire.
The only other relevant info. I have is that his father was George ROBERTSON (Gentleman) - from the M/C.
His third christian name of POWELL may be his mother's maiden name???
H.A.P. ROBERTSON moved to St James, Bristol and married Mary Knight HUDSON on 28August1838.
Roger Size
Mount Gambier
South Australia
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Sue Waller <coriander_1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Would anyone know the website where I can download this please? During
an
upgrade I've lost it somehow. : (
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Dear Sue,
A quick Google search revealed that Get1901Data is available for
download on the GENUKI website at:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CensusSoftware/index.html
Kind regards,
John
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Dear List,
I am looking for the marriage of David MORRIS (born circa 1802 in Pembs.) and Mary MORRIS (born circa 1808 in Cards.) circa 1825-30, presumably in Monmouthshire. Their first child John was born in Aberystruth in 1830 and christened at Carmel Chapel (Llangattock, Brecs.) the same year. The birth certificate of their later child Ebenezer (b. 1846) records that Mary was born a MORRIS as well as marrying one. If this is correct it means that the David M. and Mary Edwards married in 1828 in Aberystruth cannot be the couple that I am looking for. Does anyone know of a marriage between a David MORRIS and Mary MORRIS?
Best wishes
James
Hi list,
Could SKS, who has access to the 1851 census of Bedwellty,
look for a Sarah MOORE, aged about 14 years old.
Thank you in advance,
Stan *Canada*
Hello Sue
There is a chance that your Granfather went to St.Woolos School, Stow Hill,
Newport. I have their CD of School Admission Registers 1895-1960 and I'd be
happy to look for him if you let me know his details. It may be a shot in
the dark which draws a blank but if you don't fight the battle you will not
win the war !!!!!!!
Good luck
Tom
Dear Listers,
This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales', just uploaded onto my
website, features:
1. A variety of buildings, big and small, in the counties of
Breconshire, Carmarthenshire, Monmouthshire and Pembrokeshire.
This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in April 1998 (seven
photos).
2. The 12th century castle at Llansteffan in Carmarthenshire.
This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in March 1998 (eight
photos).
To view these Retrospective webpages, go to
http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/retro/retro.htm
Enjoy!!
Best wishes,
John
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I have decided that I will give these JOHNSONS another "go" before the
end of the year.
Gervase Benson JOHNSON was my husband's great grandfather. He had
several children - William Gervase, Clifford, Hewitt, Mabel, Lottie,
Queenie and Ginny/Jeannie.
The family story says that he disappeared to Newport - from somewhere in
the Rogerstone/Risca area and his wife then *married* a PITMAN.
I had thought that with a name like Gervase - pronounced Jarvis in the
family - he would be easy to locate I kind of hope that this one will be
my black sheep
Ann Macey
searching for Johnson in Barry, Rogerstone; Macey in Bristol and
anywhere; NAthan in London, Guilfoyle-Seymour wherever there is a theatre.
Would someone be able to help me please to discover which school my
Grandfather may have attended in Newport beginning say, 1911/12? The
family lived in Jones Street until my Grandfather left school at the age of
14.
TIA
Sue
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