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Mike John wrote:
"The Mormon church have just brought out a CD which gives an
index of all the records they hold. {not the records themselves}"
If this aroused your interest, I believe he was referring to the Family
History Library Catalogue, which is of course available on
http://www.familysearch.org.
From the first screen, click on "Custom Search", and then "Family History
Library Catalogue".
On the screen which next comes up, you can then search using a keyword
relating to an author, film/fiche, place, surname, or call number.
- Author Search finds catalogue entries by or about a person, church,
society, government agency, and so forth.
- Film/Fiche Search lists the contents of a specific microfilm or
microfiche.
- Place Search finds catalogue entries about a place or about records from
a place (including church and civil vital records!).
- Surname Search finds catalogue entries about records that include a
specific surname (one of your ancestors may have featured in a biography).
- Call Number Search finds catalogue entries by the number used to locate
books and other items on the Family History Library's shelves in Salt Lake
City.
Having said all this, the FHLC has been available at the LDS Family History
Centres (FHCs) on microfiche for a considerable time, and in CD-ROM form
for 3 or 4 years. But the same facilities on FamilySearch allow you to
browse from your home.
If you strike gold, and find an item that's available in book form, that
book may be available through your local library on an inter-loan basis.
But a large number of the specialist biographies etc were printed in
limited numbers, some privately, and may be a hundred or more years old.
If the LDS have micro-filmed/fiched its contents, though, or the item
relates to copies of vital records on film or fiche, you then have to visit
a FHC and quote the call number to order the item for inspection at that
FHC.
I've found the FHLC invaluable and well worth dipping into for everyone.
Geoff Riggs, Chepstow, South Wales
riggs(a)one-name.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike John" <michael(a)davidjohn18.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: [Mon] Mormons
One thing about the 1851 index, I was involved with
many others in the initial indexing.
I dont understand what happened to all the other information
we at to transcribe, such as birthplaces etc. this does not
appear on the index fiche.
Personally I was very disappointed, but I suppose anything is
better than nothing.
Mike
I am looking for evidence of Edward Phillips(b.1805), his wife, Mary, and
their children:
John Edward b.1831
Elizabeth b.1833
Mary b.1835
Craddock b.1837
William b.1840
in theEbbe Vale in the parish of Bedwelty in the county of Monmouth. I am
hoping someone can help me confirm that this family was there from
1800-1843.
Edward's father's name was probably John.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Pam
critters(a)cablenet-va.com
On Thu 28 Sep 2000 (19:09:39), neenanewman(a)uswest.net wrote:
>Another refresher------My ancestor Simeon HODDER eveidently was the
>proprietor of the Red Cow a pub on Albion Rd. I would love to know
>more of the history of the Red Cow and tried unsuccessfully in early
>August to learn a little of this Pub and the area. The Red Cow was on
>a business directory in 1851 (thanks to the Pontypool Heritage Center
>for their help). Simeon died at the Red Cow 9 Mar 1891.
Hi,
I'd like to know more about the Red Cow too.
My Aunt Ethel's birth certificate says that she was born in Albion
Road, Pontypool in April 1898. Under " Where born " it says " Back of
red cow ".
I'm relieved to hear that it was a pub !
Cheers,
Glyn
--
Act of Union of England & Wales
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/ghale/act.html
Yes - but I am also wondering why there appears to be no mention of it (even
that it is happening!) on the Gwent FHS web site??!
I sent to the County sales officer and got one anyway. - I also do not
recall seeing anything about it in the recent Gwent FHS magazine?!
If you do order from the County Sales Officer, it is four fiche at £1 each +
postage - see the web site for more details on postage
< http://www.rootsweb.com/~wlsgfhs/SalesCty.htm >
Andrew
> -----Original Message-----
> From: annmacey [SMTP:annmacey@netscapeonline.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 10:34 PM
> To: MONMOUTHSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [Mon] 1851 census fiche
>
> Some of you might be wondering why the 1851 census fiche have not yet
> gone onto the Gwent FHS stall at genfair. As I understand it the reason
> is this.
> everything that is for sale on Genfair has to be weighed so that the
> postage rates can be calculated. and there was a discrepancy with one or
> two items which has had to be corrected. the fiche will be on sale at
> Genfair just as soon as the weighing in procedure is completed.
> The Society is just as keen as everyone else to get them on sale so it
> shouldn't be too long before they are available.
> You don't want to pay any more for postage than you have to do you?
>
> Ann Macey
>
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I wiill be looking through the 1851 census
tomorrow for Trevethin, which will include
places such as Abersychan, Garndiffaith &
Ponypool.
Does anyone want me to keep an eye out for
any families, you never know I might spot them
when going through the reel. There are about
100 families I have to look at.
Mike John
Some of you might be wondering why the 1851 census fiche have not yet
gone onto the Gwent FHS stall at genfair. As I understand it the reason
is this.
everything that is for sale on Genfair has to be weighed so that the
postage rates can be calculated. and there was a discrepancy with one or
two items which has had to be corrected. the fiche will be on sale at
Genfair just as soon as the weighing in procedure is completed.
The Society is just as keen as everyone else to get them on sale so it
shouldn't be too long before they are available.
You don't want to pay any more for postage than you have to do you?
Ann Macey
On Thu 28 Sep 2000 (15:54:12 +0100), sue.nichols4(a)mail1-gui.server.ntli.net
wrote:
>I read a good book in the library this week
>"Welsh costume in the 18th and 19th century"
Hi Sue,
I know that you're researching the Llanover area.
Did the book mention that the Welsh national costume was instigated by Lady
Llanover?
You probably know that she had the bardic title of Gwenynen Gwent (the honey
bee of Gwent) and with her husband campaigned for Welsh language education and
Welsh culture in general. We probably wouldn't have a National Eisteddfod
without her.
Other listers may like to know that before his ennoblement Lord Llanover was
plain Benjamin Hall MP, and he has an even bigger claim to fame than his wife.
As Member of Parliament for Monmouth boroughs he was appointed Commissioner of
Works and oversaw the rebuilding of the Houses of Parliament, including the
clock tower. He was a large man, and it was from him that "Big Ben" got it's
name.
I'll put the book you mentioned on my "Monmouthshire Books" page.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Glyn
--
Monmouthshire Books Page
www.argonet.co.uk/users/ghale/monbooks.html
I have the 1851 census index for Trevethin which
the G.F.H.S has just bought out. You can purchase
them through Genfair.
The Trevethin index covers 4 fiche and has only names
ages and where to find the individual on the census page.
Mike John
To all my Welsh cousins here and abroad.
As I said yesterday I pay a regular visit to the
Mormon church every Thursday morning in
Cardiff. The Mormon library has a wonderful
collection of records which include many films
of parish records for England and the Bishops
transcripts for Wales.
Today I started cataloguing what they have actually
got, and I have started with the Wales BTs. From
a first guess they have a significant number of parishes
for all the counties in Wales.
Allthough the BTs are a transcribed copy of the actual
Parish records which were sent every year to the Bishop
of the county Diocese, they are in my opinion a valuable
source.
Once I have finished the catalogoue which should take
me about 10 weeks, I will have a good idea of what they
have.
I can then do looks ups for any list member not only in
Monmouthshire but for other counties Wales, will go onto
England later.
A word of warning. The vast majority of the filmed Welsh BTs
only cover marriages upto 1837 very rarely do they go beyond
this date, baptisms and burials usually date to about 1870 - 1890.
The Mormon church have just brought out a CD which gives an
index of all the records they hold. {not the records themselves}
Mike John
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Ann
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Anne, congrats on getting this site. Can you tell me or point me in the
right direction, I am searching for the sons of Peter Murphy of Blaenavon.
Specifically and William Winfield Murphy ABT 1841 born maybe in March of that
year.
Kathleen E. Kaar-Isleib
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Reposting my interests - living in Ebbw Vale in 1881.
Cottles originally from Bristol and maybe Wells before that.
Hurleys, Palmers and Tuckers from Somerset
Staceys from North Petherton
Powells from Defynnog.
I'd like to find "cousins" as well as ancestors.
Gwynneth
Hi All---My message was to support all with Monmouthshire connections, to,
at some stage, consult this work by Bradney---there is a vast fountain of
knowledge in its pages---
Like all works, with very few exceptions, there are usually errors to be
found. It is not my purpose to apportion blame for such errors---just to
point out that they are there--so that in the manner of all
genealogists--check and recheck the information---until this is done, it is
only an indication
Issue has been taken of my remark regarding persons mentioned by
Bradney---stated as being "the landed gentry and people of that note"
---What I actually wrote was " the landed gentry and other persons of note"
Perhaps my comprehension has faded to the extent that these two sentences
actually mean the same thing? It is all so easy to miss the import of a
statement
The sociology of a village and market town could and did vary---in a small
village a carpenter could be termed a person of note, whereas in a large
market town, the same social status may not apply---hence the careful
choice of words, as a generalization only was intended to be given,----
this as opposed to specific examples which could be cited 'ad infinitum'
In plain language---Please do read Bradney if you have not done so,----
well worthwhile just for general historical information --but do not be
disappointed if your ancestor fails to gain a mention-----the odds are
against it for many and varied reasons---
These remarks are only a point of view, and should not be acted on without
the usual cross checking so necessary to a genealogist
Just a Point
From the Roaring Forties---Bob
Trivia---between 1831 to 1841 Monmouthshire had the greatest % increase in
population of all the English and Welsh counties
----36%------
Reference--1841 Parliamentary Gazetteer of England and Wales
Hello
I'm sending this to two lists, please accept my apologies if you
read it twice. I am getting far too many emails as I am on many many
mailing lists, and I need to unsub from these two I think. Mike John -
keep up the good work :)
In Moumouthshire I am researching:
JONES
KEEN(E)
RICHARDS
EVANS
in Rumney, Nash and Newport.
In Cornwall I am researching, somewhat unsuccesfully:
RICHARD NICHOLLS in St. Austell
and his wife CAROLINE BURROUGHS also from St. Austell
This family moved to Morvello Brazil.
Could sks please tell me what exactly Newport St. Woollos is? It
appears on a census record I was sent. Please respond off list as I
will not be able to see it since I'm unsubbed :).
Kind Regards
Taryn Jones
www.geocities.com/taryn_jones14
I read a good book in the library this week
"Welsh costume in the 18th and 19th century"
Ken Etheridge ISBN 0 7154 0411 3
published by Christopher Davies Ltd Swansea
Sue Nichols Newport
Anyone interested in the History of Abertillery and District along with
tracing their ancestors and or family members and friends should look at the
Abertillery Town Web Site:htp://www.abertillery-net.co.uk/
In addition if you are interested in Welsh Rugby Teams follow the links and
see how your favorite team is doing, mine is Abertillery RFC.
If you are intending to visit the Valleys and want a place to stay, shop or
have a drink at the local pubs and visit with friends or the locals then that
also can be found on the Abertillery Web Site.
Ex Six Bells/Abertillery now retired and living in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA.
Hilda & Ken Morley ( kmorley105(a)aol.com )
Hello Jane
This looks like Michael and family from the 1861 census Index:
3996 58 29, Blaenafon
Peter MURPHY, 45
Catherine, 40
Michael, 19
James, 13
John, 16
Mary, 11
Peter, 6
On the next page and could be part of the same family:
3996 58 30
MURPHY, William, 56
Daniel, 1
Thomas, 4
Pam in New Zealand
>
> I have great grandparents' wedding certificate from St. Alban's Church in
> Pontypool. On 24July1864, Michael MURPHY, a 22 year old labourer (collier)
> from Blaenavon married Ellen DESMOND a 19 yr old laborer from
> "Cromnavon"(?).
> Witnesses were John MURPHY and John DESMOND. Michael's father is listed as
> Peter MURPHY and Ellen's father as Edward DESMOND. This is as far back as
> my info goes. Will you be able to add any info? Also looking for Tim and
> Michael QUINLAN, cousins of Michael MURPHY. Any help, info, suggestions will
> be greatly appreciated. Jane (FOX) COONEY Waterbury, CT
> USA
>
>
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Dear Glyn, Bryan and Ann,
Please try to remember in all this controversy, a lot of us listers are
pensioners, as I am myself, and need to limit our use of the internet.
Searching for information of websites which may or may not have the
information we are looking for takes a lot of time and consequently
money, which we cannot readily afford. Therefore information such as
Mike John posted to the list, is welcolmed by many of us, after all it
takes so little time online to download messages, then they can be read
offline. That's mine opinion, if all our opinions matter.
A lot is said about buying our own resources, well I have purchased
quite a bit, but have now had to limit buying to where I can pay by
credit card, as sterling cheques cost so much to buy for us overseas.
Therefore when is Gwent FHS going to put more of their resources on
their Genfair site, I have been looking constantly for something more
than their MI's, but I am always dissapointed.
Cathy in South Australia