Hi all,
I'm of no technical help (!!) but would be happy to grab any and all pics I've
added to Find a Grave and provide them for a MN site.
Jo
p.s. if you happen to see a short, fat, middle aged white female and a red and white Corgi
roaming cemeteries - stop and say hi to us :)
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:27 AM, "mngen-request(a)rootsweb.com"
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Headstones (Karen De Groote)
2. Re: Is Your Name on This List? (Bryant Walker)
3. Re: Headstones (Mike (Dino) Peterson)
4. Re: Headstones (Joy Fisher)
5. Re: Headstones (Joy Fisher)
6. Re: Headstones (Karen De Groote)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 09:41:03 -0600
From: Karen De Groote <iagenieme(a)gmail.com
Subject:
Re: [MNGEN] Headstones
To: List MNGenWeb <mngen(a)rootsweb.com
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I know many people use Find A Grave but since it has been purchased by
Ancestry I am sure it won't be too long before the information placed there
becomes a part of the Ancestry behemoth. There is no guarantee that it
won't someday become paid access like other databases that Ancestry has
bought and privatized.
I would really like to get the free aka open-source program from Jeff Lowe
and make it a MNGenWeb special project. The Minnesota version is up but no
one has submitted anything so I was hoping to speak to the coordinator
about transferring it to our project.
We would need server space for the project and tech person that could help
in times of the trouble. What I would like to set up for MNGenWeb would be
similar to the project in the IAGenWeb which can be viewed at:
iowagravestones.org.
In order to do this, we would need to cooperate. If anyone would like to
spearhead this endeavor, raise your hand!
Karen
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:42 AM, John Van Essen via <mngen(a)rootsweb.com
wrote:
Findagrave.com is a great resource for uploading/managing images.
Once a memorial has been created, you can upload images of the monuments
and markers AND photos/images of the subject of the memorial.
Bethania Cemetery is here:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2264051
John (Crow Wing county)
On Jan 20, 2016, at 00:45, W Saewyc via wrote:
> A volunteer in my county has just dropped a few hundred headstone images
> into my folders. I have a survey of one of the cemeteries[1], and 144
> images to match up to the individuals[2].
> I am working with a developer to build an open-source api
software[3] to
> manage exactly this kind of task, but we think we are about 6 months
> away from a beta version. In the meantime, does anyone have a suggestion
> for how to make hundreds of headstone images available?
> [1]
http://marshallmnus.genweb.io/places/cemeteries/bethania-cemetery/
> [2]
https://cloud.saewyc.ca/index.php/s/6pjb9FIqsu9msYa
> [3]
https://github.com/master-bob/Gravely
> --
> Wayne Saewyc
> Marshall County marshallmnus.genweb.io
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:56:47 -0500
From: "Bryant Walker" <genes.1(a)bryantsweb.com
Subject:
Re: [MNGEN] Is Your Name on This List?
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Sorry Shirley
I thought that I had responded. I'm here.
Bryant
Nobles County
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 08:27:41 -0800
From: "Mike (Dino) Peterson" <geanie(a)cox.net
Subject:
Re: [MNGEN] Headstones
To: "22-MNGen Mailing List" <mngen(a)rootsweb.com
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The concern about Find A Grave and
ancestry.com is very real and it certainly makes me
nervous but we need to move forward with what we have. I really like
the?http://iowagravestones.org/ (GPP) and I've also used other gravestone projects by
GPP. There are gravestones on Find A Grave that are not on GPP Projects and vice versa.
The big difference in my mind is that with Find A Grave the county coordinator doesn't
need to be involved and memorials are submitted by individuals whereas GPP requires an
Admin and userid/password control, usually for the county coordinators. I believe this is
one of the reasons Find A Grave has grown so fast, but I've also found many mistakes
on Find A Grave so it's trust but verify.?
Why couldn't the Minnesota Project be placed on rootsweb someplace or even a
sub-folder to ~mngenweb? Iowa has the Friends of IAGenWeb which funds their servers but
setting that up for Minnesota would probably take longer than setting up a gravestone
project. Seems like sometime ago there was some discussion about coordinators moving their
sites to a private server to get away from rootsweb. In that discussion there were one or
two people who volunteered to put the sites on their server but I can't remember who
they were, where they were at, etc. ?
Except for trying to arrange a place to put Minnesota Project I wouldn't mind trying
to get it off the ground although I'm not sure what a 'technical person' needs
to know and once I do, if I could do that.
Sincerely,
Mike
Clay County?
?
On 1/20/2016 7:41:25 AM, Karen De Groote via <mngen(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
I know many people use Find A Grave but since it has been purchased by
Ancestry I am sure it won't be too long before the information placed there
becomes a part of the Ancestry behemoth. There is no guarantee that it
won't someday become paid access like other databases that Ancestry has
bought and privatized.
I would really like to get the free aka open-source program from Jeff Lowe
and make it a MNGenWeb special project. The Minnesota version is up but no
one has submitted anything so I was hoping to speak to the coordinator
about transferring it to our project.
We would need server space for the project and tech person that could help
in times of the trouble. What I would like to set up for MNGenWeb would be
similar to the project in the IAGenWeb which can be viewed at:
iowagravestones.org.
In order to do this, we would need to cooperate. If anyone would like to
spearhead this endeavor, raise your hand!
Karen
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:26:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: Joy Fisher <sdgenweb(a)yahoo.com
Subject:
Re: [MNGEN] Headstones
To: "Mike (Dino) Peterson" <geanie(a)cox.net>, 22-MNGen Mailing List
<mngen(a)rootsweb.com>, "mngen(a)rootsweb.com"
<mngen(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
The USGenWeb Archives has 3 separate ways to submit your photos:
http://genrecords.orghttp://genrecords.nethttp://poppet.org
All 3 automatically upload the photos and can generate the html code. Here is an example
of a cemetery I did:
http://usgwarchives.net/il/clark/cemeteries/mtolive.htm
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 8:28 AM, Mike Peterson via <mngen(a)rootsweb.com>
wrote:
The concern about Find A Grave and
ancestry.com is very real and it certainly makes me
nervous but we need to move forward with what we have. I really like
the?http://iowagravestones.org/ (GPP) and I've also used other gravestone projects by
GPP. There are gravestones on Find A Grave that are not on GPP Projects and vice versa.
The big difference in my mind is that with Find A Grave the county coordinator doesn't
need to be involved and memorials are submitted by individuals whereas GPP requires an
Admin and userid/password control, usually for the county coordinators. I believe this is
one of the reasons Find A Grave has grown so fast, but I've also found many mistakes
on Find A Grave so it's trust but verify.?
Why couldn't the Minnesota Project be placed on rootsweb someplace or even a
sub-folder to ~mngenweb? Iowa has the Friends of IAGenWeb which funds their servers but
setting that up for Minnesota would probably take longer than setting up a gravestone
project. Seems like sometime ago there was some discussion about coordinators moving their
sites to a private server to get away from rootsweb. In that discussion there were one or
two people who volunteered to put the sites on their server but I can't remember who
they were, where they were at, etc. ?
Except for trying to arrange a place to put Minnesota Project I wouldn't mind trying
to get it off the ground although I'm not sure what a 'technical person' needs
to know and once I do, if I could do that.
Sincerely,
Mike
Clay County?
?
On 1/20/2016 7:41:25 AM, Karen De Groote via <mngen(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
I know many people use Find A Grave but since it has been purchased by
Ancestry I am sure it won't be too long before the information placed there
becomes a part of the Ancestry behemoth. There is no guarantee that it
won't someday become paid access like other databases that Ancestry has
bought and privatized.
I would really like to get the free aka open-source program from Jeff Lowe
and make it a MNGenWeb special project. The Minnesota version is up but no
one has submitted anything so I was hoping to speak to the coordinator
about transferring it to our project.
We would need server space for the project and tech person that could help
in times of the trouble. What I would like to set up for MNGenWeb would be
similar to the project in the IAGenWeb which can be viewed at:
iowagravestones.org.
In order to do this, we would need to cooperate. If anyone would like to
spearhead this endeavor, raise your hand!
Karen
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:26:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: Joy Fisher <sdgenweb(a)yahoo.com
Subject:
Re: [MNGEN] Headstones
To: "Mike (Dino) Peterson" <geanie(a)cox.net>, 22-MNGen Mailing List
<mngen(a)rootsweb.com>, "mngen(a)rootsweb.com"
<mngen(a)rootsweb.com
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The USGenWeb Archives has 3 separate ways to submit your photos:
http://genrecords.orghttp://genrecords.nethttp://poppet.org
All 3 automatically upload the photos and can generate the html code. Here is an example
of a cemetery I did:
http://usgwarchives.net/il/clark/cemeteries/mtolive.htm
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 8:28 AM, Mike Peterson via <mngen(a)rootsweb.com>
wrote:
The concern about Find A Grave and
ancestry.com is very real and it certainly makes me
nervous but we need to move forward with what we have. I really like
the?http://iowagravestones.org/ (GPP) and I've also used other gravestone projects by
GPP. There are gravestones on Find A Grave that are not on GPP Projects and vice versa.
The big difference in my mind is that with Find A Grave the county coordinator doesn't
need to be involved and memorials are submitted by individuals whereas GPP requires an
Admin and userid/password control, usually for the county coordinators. I believe this is
one of the reasons Find A Grave has grown so fast, but I've also found many mistakes
on Find A Grave so it's trust but verify.?
Why couldn't the Minnesota Project be placed on rootsweb someplace or even a
sub-folder to ~mngenweb? Iowa has the Friends of IAGenWeb which funds their servers but
setting that up for Minnesota would probably take longer than setting up a gravestone
project. Seems like sometime ago there was some discussion about coordinators moving their
sites to a private server to get away from rootsweb. In that discussion there were one or
two people who volunteered to put the sites on their server but I can't remember who
they were, where they were at, etc. ?
Except for trying to arrange a place to put Minnesota Project I wouldn't mind trying
to get it off the ground although I'm not sure what a 'technical person' needs
to know and once I do, if I could do that.
Sincerely,
Mike
Clay County?
?
On 1/20/2016 7:41:25 AM, Karen De Groote via <mngen(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
I know many people use Find A Grave but since it has been purchased by
Ancestry I am sure it won't be too long before the information placed there
becomes a part of the Ancestry behemoth. There is no guarantee that it
won't someday become paid access like other databases that Ancestry has
bought and privatized.
I would really like to get the free aka open-source program from Jeff Lowe
and make it a MNGenWeb special project. The Minnesota version is up but no
one has submitted anything so I was hoping to speak to the coordinator
about transferring it to our project.
We would need server space for the project and tech person that could help
in times of the trouble. What I would like to set up for MNGenWeb would be
similar to the project in the IAGenWeb which can be viewed at:
iowagravestones.org.
In order to do this, we would need to cooperate. If anyone would like to
spearhead this endeavor, raise your hand!
Karen
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:27:06 -0600
From: Karen De Groote <iagenieme(a)gmail.com
Subject:
Re: [MNGEN] Headstones
To: "Mike (Dino) Peterson" <geanie(a)cox.net>, List MNGenWeb
<mngen(a)rootsweb.com
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The problem with putting the project on RW is that Ancestry owns them as
well. They are moving toward not offering that free service but in the
meantime they periodically harvest the data that us volunteers have worked
so hard to provide our visitors for free. They say they have the right to
do that which led to the exodus of so many counties on RW back when they
bought RW.
Server space is quite economical these days and getting off the ground
would not take too terribly much space. I can talk to Jeff and see what is
involved. As far as technical, I am sure you could handle the stewardship
of the project, Mike and for the real technical aspects, should they come
up, I am sure we could find someone to assist. Maybe talking to Rich Lowe
would be helpful as well, since he is the state coordinator of that project
in Iowa. Mainly we message him to correct cemetery names or putting them
in the correct country after errors. I am also a coordinator in the Ohio
Gravestone Photo project which is a stand alone project and it has been
quite simple over the years to manage.
I would like to see us doing this as a MNGenWeb project because I would
love to submit hundreds of Minnesota photos I have taken. We can also
encourage Find a Grave submitters to submit to the project as well. The
Gravestone Photo Project does not have the personalization that Find A
Grave does so people normally have no problem submitting to both.
Karen
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Mike Peterson via <mngen(a)rootsweb.com
wrote:
> The concern about Find A Grave and
ancestry.com is very real and it
> certainly makes me nervous but we need to move forward with what we have. I
> really like the
http://iowagravestones.org/ (GPP) and I've also used
> other gravestone projects by GPP. There are gravestones on Find A Grave
> that are not on GPP Projects and vice versa. The big difference in my mind
> is that with Find A Grave the county coordinator doesn't need to be
> involved and memorials are submitted by individuals whereas GPP requires an
> Admin and userid/password control, usually for the county coordinators. I
> believe this is one of the reasons Find A Grave has grown so fast, but I've
> also found many mistakes on Find A Grave so it's trust but verify.
> Why couldn't the Minnesota Project be placed on
rootsweb someplace or even
> a sub-folder to ~mngenweb? Iowa has the Friends of IAGenWeb which funds
> their servers but setting that up for Minnesota would probably take longer
> than setting up a gravestone project. Seems like sometime ago there was
> some discussion about coordinators moving their sites to a private server
> to get away from rootsweb. In that discussion there were one or two people
> who volunteered to put the sites on their server but I can't remember who
> they were, where they were at, etc.
> Except for trying to arrange a place to put Minnesota
Project I wouldn't
> mind trying to get it off the ground although I'm not sure what a
> 'technical person' needs to know and once I do, if I could do that.
> Sincerely,
> Mike
> Clay County
> On
1/20/2016 7:41:25 AM, Karen De Groote via <mngen(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
> I know many people use Find A Grave but since it has been purchased by
> Ancestry I am sure it won't be too long before the information placed there
> becomes a part of the Ancestry behemoth. There is no guarantee that it
> won't someday become paid access like other databases that Ancestry has
> bought and privatized.
> I would really like to get the free aka open-source
program from Jeff Lowe
> and make it a MNGenWeb special project. The Minnesota version is up but no
> one has submitted anything so I was hoping to speak to the coordinator
> about transferring it to our project.
> We would need server space for the project and tech person
that could help
> in times of the trouble. What I would like to set up for MNGenWeb would be
> similar to the project in the IAGenWeb which can be viewed at:
>
iowagravestones.org.
> In order to do this, we would need to cooperate. If anyone
would like to
> spearhead this endeavor, raise your hand!
> Karen
>
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