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Sure nice to see some true wisdom on this site, not uninformed xxxx.
Let's all work together... could have worked through TWO brickwalls in
the time wasted with chatter.
Thanks, again, Emma, and others.
>>> ENC6(a)aol.com 5/13/2005 7:37 AM >>>
In a message dated 5/13/05 1:23:01 AM Central Daylight Time,
bdendy(a)earthlink.net writes:
<< You try it. I did and I had to register. It is not free. >>
Yes it is........
When you access the ancestry world tree or message boards ancestry asks
that
you register. That way you can update your information, edit your
messages,
etc. However, they do not charge for use.
However, you can access the same information by going to the mail
Rootsweb
site at:
www.rootsweb.com
Scroll down to the section called Family Trees World Connect
Then click on World Connect Project Main Page
Then do your search. This gets you to the same information submitted
by
users that is on the ancestry page. Ancestry provides the servers for
all the
rootsweb activities and data - free to users. That includes all these
mail
lists.
So you can access the user provided data from either the ancestry site
or the
rootsweb site but it is the same data.
The same goes for the message boards. They too are free. You can
access
those as well from either the ancestry site or the rootsweb site.
Thanks - Emma
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List Admin.: Christopher T. Smithson; wsmithso(a)erols.com
In a message dated 5/13/05 1:23:01 AM Central Daylight Time,
bdendy(a)earthlink.net writes:
<< You try it. I did and I had to register. It is not free. >>
Yes it is........
When you access the ancestry world tree or message boards ancestry asks that
you register. That way you can update your information, edit your messages,
etc. However, they do not charge for use.
However, you can access the same information by going to the mail Rootsweb
site at:
www.rootsweb.com
Scroll down to the section called Family Trees World Connect
Then click on World Connect Project Main Page
Then do your search. This gets you to the same information submitted by
users that is on the ancestry page. Ancestry provides the servers for all the
rootsweb activities and data - free to users. That includes all these mail
lists.
So you can access the user provided data from either the ancestry site or the
rootsweb site but it is the same data.
The same goes for the message boards. They too are free. You can access
those as well from either the ancestry site or the rootsweb site.
Thanks - Emma
Please, Please, Please... one more time.
If you put your data on Ancestry world tree it is free for anyone to check.
They do NOT charge for viewing that information.
Check it out...
Go to
www.ancestry.com
Search on any of your surnames.
Scroll down to the section titled Trees and Community
Note that the Ancestry World Tree and Message Boards are both free.
These are the two sections that include user contributed material.
Thanks - Emma
In a message dated 5/13/2005 12:09:49 AM Central Standard Time,
bdendy(a)earthlink.net writes:
I do not think we are talking about sharing our information with our
Genealogy friends. We are talking about Family Tree and Ancestry deciding
to charge for information they did not work for. It was taken from people
like you and me and now we have to pay roughly $300.00 a year to access this
info.
You try it. I did and I had to register. It is not free.
-----Original Message-----
From: ENC6(a)aol.com [mailto:ENC6@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:30 AM
To: MDGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [MDGEN] Feed up with getting ripped off.
Please, Please, Please... one more time.
If you put your data on Ancestry world tree it is free for anyone to check.
They do NOT charge for viewing that information.
Check it out...
Go to
www.ancestry.com
Search on any of your surnames.
Scroll down to the section titled Trees and Community
Note that the Ancestry World Tree and Message Boards are both free.
These are the two sections that include user contributed material.
Thanks - Emma
In a message dated 5/13/2005 12:09:49 AM Central Standard Time,
bdendy(a)earthlink.net writes:
I do not think we are talking about sharing our information with our
Genealogy friends. We are talking about Family Tree and Ancestry deciding
to charge for information they did not work for. It was taken from people
like you and me and now we have to pay roughly $300.00 a year to access this
info.
==== MDGEN Mailing List ====
List Admin.: Christopher T. Smithson; wsmithso(a)erols.com
I do not think we are talking about sharing our information with our
Genealogy friends. We are talking about Family Tree and Ancestry deciding
to charge for information they did not work for. It was taken from people
like you and me and now we have to pay roughly $300.00 a year to access this
info. Bet
-----Original Message-----
From: Peggy Tanner McDonald [mailto:patan@ev1.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:40 PM
To: MDGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [MDGEN] Feed up with getting ripped off.
I feel really sad when people don't want to share what they have found.
Some off my findings have really been accidental and some are others sharing
as well as my own research. I have been doing this for over 30 years and my
mother another 20 yrs before me. When we don't share our research, it dies
with the holder. No one else benefits. I on the other hand give credit to
shared information. Credit for the research and the generosity of sharing.
Unshared research just sits on a shelf getting dusty and means absolutely
nothing to anyone. I hope the person that feels so bad about the person
stealing the credit for their research has a change of mind and continues
doing this work that sounds like something they enjoy.
I always share my information and tell them where they can find the proof or
the person who gave me the information. Just let this other person try to
prove his/her information. Then they will have to fess up to the plagerism.
Keep In Touch
Peggy Tanner McDonald (Pat)
Don't give up,
Remember the Mighty Oak was once a NUT!
----- Original Message -----
From: <OKay3113(a)aol.com>
To: <MDGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MDGEN] Feed up with getting ripped off.
>I really dont see what all the flack is about.....we are all "one big happy
> family" out here. If I can share any information I have or anything that
> I
> know with anyone else I love it! If you have spent many years gathering
> information you have done it for the love and thrill of the search. It
> would be a
> great catastrophe if, after all those years, your work dies with you.
>
> I am not happy about all the charges but I suppose there is a great deal
> of
> expense involved in maintaining the database and I too am sure someone out
> there is making money off of it. Free enterprise, huh.
>
> Still, be generous with your findings. How sad it would be to have a long
> lost distant relative of yours searching for you and you wouldn't know it.
>
> Happy gathering!
>
>
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>
>
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The following is a forwarded message from Mary Ellen Wilmouth;
Good Morning Friends,
The next meeting of the Charles County Maryland Genealogical Society will be
May 17th (third Tuesday Evening) at 7:30 PM at the Family History Center,
4560 Padgett Road, White Plains.
In May we are priviledged to have as our speaker, Ms. Susannah Brooks, who
will present: Family History on Deposit: 19th & Early 20th Century Bank
Records. Many of you know Susannah from the NARA on Thursdays, the
Suitland Family History Center, or from MAGS (Mid-Atlantic Germanic
Society). She has graciously come to Southern Maryland several times in the
past and is most knowledgeable in genealogy research - a true genealogist.
Mary Ellen Wilmoth
The Genealogy Nut
I too love it when I can share information with anyone who is looking for
help out there. I send my information to midatlantic rootsweb. I would never
have been able to know such wonderful people that are so helpful on this
website also.
By putting your information out there you do find lost relatives. Someone
(who I can say is my 2nd cousin) contacted me when she saw my information
listed on the above mentioned site. I never even knew she existed and she lives
just in the next county over from me! I found out from her that my great aunt
is still alive, lives in California and she just turned 100 years old.
She also sent to me wonderful old pictures of family members, and now I can
put faces to names.
Its so exciting searching for your ancestors, don't stop because of someone
else.
Brenda
This is to apologize for a e-mail sent last Wednesday to this and other lists
sent by my niece but written by me and I never intended it to be sent. Once
written, my anger was released and I thought better.
However, my niece can go from Lady to the word use for female dog in 4.2
seconds. I did not realize she had sent the message until the next morning.
That being say, some good things came form the e-mail.
1. After a discussion with AOL, I now get it for $7.00 less.
2. Many e mails were sent in agreement.
3. The lady who ripped me off has now listed my research as hers on her web
site, with the a Mulatto slave as the great grandfather of her husband. She
said she did the research herself.
4. She sent to me updated information about her family with birthdays and
maiden names of living people. Smart enough to ripped me off, dumb enough to
send that information to a total stranger.
On the downside after doing genealogical research for thirty-three years and
having two articles published in The American Genealogist, I will now quit
genealogy. I will leave it to the new breed of Internet Genealogists that have
no sense of right or wrong.
So no need to unsubscribe me for an apology, I will do that soon myself.
Thank You
Tonto Bernstein
I really dont see what all the flack is about.....we are all "one big happy
family" out here. If I can share any information I have or anything that I
know with anyone else I love it! If you have spent many years gathering
information you have done it for the love and thrill of the search. It would be a
great catastrophe if, after all those years, your work dies with you.
I am not happy about all the charges but I suppose there is a great deal of
expense involved in maintaining the database and I too am sure someone out
there is making money off of it. Free enterprise, huh.
Still, be generous with your findings. How sad it would be to have a long
lost distant relative of yours searching for you and you wouldn't know it.
Happy gathering!
Just a couple of comments.
In talking about all these companies you might want to go to their various
sites and read the terms of service, etc. Too often the companies are confused
with each other.
Genealogy.com and Ancestry.com are owned by the same parent company but they
still operate indifferent ways.
Genealogy.com is the company that takes the family information you submit to
their world family tree service and then includes that information on CDs that
they market. Also... the family information you submit to world family tree
cannot be viewed by others unless they pay a subscription fee. I believe it
is $49.00.
Ancestry.com also has an area where you can download your data. It is called
ancestry world tree. Data submited to ancestry world tree is not put on CDs
or marketed. And... you do not have to be a subscriber to ancestry to see
data submited to ancestry world tree. You can also delete your database at any
time you choose.
There are other companies out there as well. Each of these companies has
information under their terms of service that explains their rules. Folks need
to read those before making a decision of whether to post their material there
or not.
And as for being angry with these various companies because your information
has been placed on there by someone else, that isn't the company's fault. So
many times I see messages where someone shared their information with a cousin
or friend or whatever and that person then posted the material. Or, someone
copied data from somewhere and posted it. That isn't the fault of the company
involved. They have no way of knowing that this person copied the data from
someone else. Your concern should be directed at the person who placed that
information there not the company.
Thanks - Emma
In a message dated 5/6/2005 2:13:18 PM Central Standard Time, Patscga(a)aol.com
writes:
gencircles is the site where most of the material that was stolen from me
through rootsweb was posted by someone named Sudsburg. I can't imagine why
you
would recommend them.
gencircles is the site where most of the material that was stolen from me
through rootsweb was posted by someone named Sudsburg. I can't imagine why you
would recommend them.
In a message dated 5/6/2005 3:06:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jean0744(a)hotmail.com writes:
You may post your ged-com on <www.gencircles.com> a site not owned by
Ancestry and one which promises they will never sell your information. You
may also choose to make it non downloadable.
They do have what they call " Smart Matches," which matches your ancestors
with those in others files which may match yours. Recently, they did vote
to charge $30 per year to get all the "Smart Matches" but you are not
required to do this.
Also if you have a library card with the Enoch Pratt Free Library in
Baltimore, you can use Heritage Quest on the internet free of charge. It
has most of the U. S. Census Records, Persi, and many books and records.
All you do is go to the Pratt web site, click on Sailor, then click on
Heritage Quest, type in your library card number, and it will take you to
the site.
You may post your ged-com on <www.gencircles.com> a site not owned by
Ancestry and one which promises they will never sell your information. You
may also choose to make it non downloadable.
They do have what they call " Smart Matches," which matches your ancestors
with those in others files which may match yours. Recently, they did vote
to charge $30 per year to get all the "Smart Matches" but you are not
required to do this.
Also if you have a library card with the Enoch Pratt Free Library in
Baltimore, you can use Heritage Quest on the internet free of charge. It
has most of the U. S. Census Records, Persi, and many books and records.
All you do is go to the Pratt web site, click on Sailor, then click on
Heritage Quest, type in your library card number, and it will take you to
the site.
I too do not like the Ancestry way of putting $$$ signs on all our
information.
Jean