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I was just looking at the lists I am subscribed to, most have created a
new home on groups.io
A couple on Googlegroups but I won't be going there
I just wondered if there were plans to migrate this list to another
Groups.io are much more than just a mailing list with the facility to
post photos/documents etc
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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Mariners has been going for just over 20 years now, and there is a lot
of maritime-related information now available elsewhere.
I was surprised to find I have been Administrator for ten years now
(initially jointly with Mick o'Rourke) since taking over from Debbie and
Mick and myself are now considering what other viable options there may
be to keep Mariners' List running is a different way, independent of
Hopefully, we will soon be able to circulate further and fuller details
to all members well before 2 March.
Mariners' List Administrator
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I'm sorry this is a very late reply to your query, you may have found
some answers already.
I think I would write to the archives concerned to ask whether they have
any suitable records or know of their existence. Whitby Museum for
instance has some maritime records. What you have said suggests to me
that your family was involved in the coastal trade or fishing rather
than travelling abroad and therefore the ships they sailed on may not
have been registered with Lloyds. Most shipping records are based on the
ships rather than the people so it is very difficult if you can't
identify a ship to set you off.
However, you might ask about Customs House Registers for Hull and Great
Yarmouth; if these exist, they are arranged by the date of registration
for the ships but give you the names and dates for owners and masters as
well as when and where built, tonnage etc. They are not online and not
indexed in my experience.
BT 98 at TNA has crew lists for both coastal and foreign going ships but
only after 1835. You need the name of the ship as the boxes are listed
by an alphabetical range and a date range, so you may be unlucky and
after searching the box find there is nothing.
There is no quick way to find the information you want. If records
exist, it's page by page searching as nothing is indexed. If you look at
Lloyds Registers which are online with either the Hathi Trust or the
Internet Archive, you can search by surname and just accept that there
will be a lot of hits for each year. Occasionally the masters are given
an initial, ie J Smith rather than just Smith, but this is unusual.
On 2019-05-13 14:26, tamiwell wrote:
> Hello : )
> This is my first foray into the world of Mariner ancestry, my ancestor
> was JOHN SMITH (!) who was born about 1787 somewhere in Lincolnshire
> or Yorkshire (he gives his place as Burton Lincs in the one census we
> have to go on). He lived in Selby in the 1820-30s, Hull 1830s and
> finally Great Yarmouth from the late 1830s to the end of his life.
> Operating from all of these places as a Master Mariner/Captain. One
> record states he is a Naval Captain but most just say Master Mariner.
> I’m not sure what sort of seafaring he was doing but I do know that
> his son Henry Harrison Smith became a Master Mariner also and was
> recorded as a fisherman in one census record. He had a ship named the
> ST ALBANS of LONDON. I discovered from the newspaper records that
> tragically it was smashed on the rocks coming in to Tynemouth during a
> gale in 1874 and he lost his wife overboard in the accident. After
> this it seems he gave up the Mariners life and became a Publican like
> his father had done.
> I found Henry Harrison’s mariner ticket record which gives a brief
> description and some numbers in a couple of boxes for 1851 and 1852
> and I have no idea what they mean except that one box says Sydney.
> Could there be any records I could discover with more information
> about John or Henry? Their journeys or their ships? I’m not sure why
> Henry came in to Tynemouth and have wondered about that and if there
> is a connection there with family or something....
> Its very difficult with such a common name but any advice would be
> much appreciated! Thank you,
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Welcome to Mariners!
Before you post, there are just a few things we need to mention!
Each list has guidelines to help everything work smoothly and we need you please to read the following.
1. This is a list for mariners and ships - anyone at all who lived their life on the water, and any kind of ship from the smallest fishing boat to the largest man of war.
It is NOT for passengers! We cannot, and do not, help with requests about passengers or immigrants under any circumstances. For those questions please join our sister list, TheShipsList-Lfirstname.lastname@example.org
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