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Break a leg, Sue!!!!!!! (that's show biz for good luck but it sure does
sound mean doesn't it??!!) I'll be in Salt Lake next Saturday so I'll
miss it. You'll have to do a repeat performance for us sometime.
Just wanted to let you know one of our charter members "Sue Badeaux" is
speaking in Shreveport next Saturday on "Documentation"
When Sue bought herself a new genealogy program, it had such a system of
documentation, citation, etc. that she made quite a study on how to do them
properly. She was asked to speak at the November meeting by Laura Hair Duffy
when we attended the Ark-La-Tex workshop in August and she has been preparing
for this talk every since. It should really be great!
The workshop is in the Shreve Memorial Library. Library opens at 9 am and
meeting begins at 10 am. From what Sue wrote me, it seems there will be some
short presentations and then lunch break and then an afternoon session of
research in the library from 1-3. (copies are only 10 cents each! or 25 cents
for microfilm copies AND they have all the census for the US plus a lot of
microfilm on the different parishes)
I'm riding up with Sue, so hope to see you there. If you have any questions
about next Saturday, you'll have to contact Sue or Laura. I'm just going
along for support... and to learn!!!
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I am forwarding this to my list and others so "new" and "old" NETworkers can
take advantage of learning about this. Even I learned a couple of new things
Annette Womack, Listowner
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EVERTON'S FAMILY HISTORY NEWSLINE
is brought to you by Everton Publishers. Why wait? Reserve your copy
of the 9th edition of The Handy Book for Genealogists. the
prepublication price is just US$34.95. Everton Publishers, Box 368,
Logan, UT 84323, 1-800-4GENEALOGY (1-800-443-6325).
30 October 1998
Frank Beacon: Is It On The Net?
You don't have to belong to very many email discussion lists, nor do
you have to subscribe to them for very long before you see your first
"tell me where to find this on the Net" query. A lot of these are
specific -- along the lines of "I saw a URL posted here last week,
but I've lost my copy", or "where is that website you mentioned that
has passenger lists?" Either request is usually handled with ease,
and life goes on.
But there seems to be no end to the messages requesting for "the Web
address where all of the records in the Family History Library can be
used online" or "how to get all of the vital records for all of the
states online". Usually posted by extremely new netizens, these email
requests are often responded to en masse, with the
enlightening messages ranging from kind-worded posts explaining that
the questioner was misinformed to derisive phillipics advising the
questioner to leave the Net and assume residence in a distant
Sadly, neither the massive microfilm collection of the Family History
Library nor the collective database of United States vital
certificates is available on the Internet. In some distant Utopia
they may become so, but that day appears to be far distant. After
all, the Internet is still in its extreme infancy, and digitized
archives are even less mature.
Even without instant access to the two million-plus rolls of
microfilm on file in Salt Lake City, the Internet is home to a
growing universe of genealogical data, or at least, indexes or
abstracts or transcripts of that data. And locating that data on the
Net becomes easier every day. The key to finding it, and using it, is
to educate yourself. Here are some areas you should focus on if you
want to be a successful Net genealogist:
1. Become familiar with the various types of data used in
genealogical research. Whether you're "surfing the Net" on your
home computer or crankin' the handle of the microfilm reader in
your local library, you need to learn which records are likely to
contain genealogical data.
2. Learn where these records are, what they look like, and how to use
them. Were they created by government officials, by church
workers, by family members? Are they in a library or archive? Are
only the originals available, or can you read them on microfilm,
CD-ROM, or in printed volumes? Are they usually complete? Is their
data reliable? Are they common or rare?
3. How difficult would it be to publish them on the World Wide Web?
Transcripts or indexes to individual passenger lists or regimental
rosters are small enough that they can easily be prepared for
digital publication. But scanned images of original documents are
usually very large -- too large to place many of them on most
websites, and too large to transfer to Web browsers at today's Net
speeds and capacity.
4. Learn to use the "general" Web search engines. I'm talking about
Yahoo, Excite, Webcrawler, and that crowd. While none of these
covers every single Web resource (in fact, all of them together
may not do so), they are a good place to begin your search of the
Web for data you can define into a boolean phrase. If you can type
"probate" plus "broome county" plus "new york", you can be on your
way. And pay attention while you use them, first to learn the
special quirks of each system, and second to learn how to spot
websites that are obviously non-genealogical.
5. Learn how to locate and use "specific" Web search engines. Many
sites devoted to genealogy and related subjects have their own
search engines focusing on family histories, military records,
censuses, passenger lists, and other topics of special interest to
family history researchers. Learn how to locate these sites (hint:
we cover many of them in <i>Family History Newsline</i> articles),
and then visit them and use their facilities. Subject-specific
search engines often include data missed by their larger Web
6. Follow the "related subject" links. Many Web pages, online subject
trees, and "Web rings" include links to sites with related
information. Again, <i>Family History Newsline</i> articles are a
good example. Follow these links to see where they lead. Some lead
directly to information of interest to you, while others may lead
to Web pages that do not directly interest you, yet refer you to
other Web pages that fill your need. One caution, though. If you
don't set some sort of time limit on these searches before you
begin, you may get "lost" in wandering and wind up far off the
path you thought you were following.
Finally, if the source you're looking for isn't on the Net, and you
really feel strongly that it should be there -- put it there
yourself! Do your part to increase the global network of digital
family history information. It will help others, and you may learn
why no one else had done it before you did.
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Some of you might be interested in this article from the Mormon-news.
Here is news on the Ellis Island extraction project from Mormon-News.
>Subject: Ellis Island to Get Family History Research Center: LDS Church
Press Release 28Oct98
>From mormon-news: See footer for instructions on joining and leaving
>ELLIS ISLAND TO GET FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH CENTER
>Church is Digitizing 17 Million Immigrant Records for the Facility
>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is playing a key role
in the establishment of a family history research center on New York's
Ellis Island, where in two years the public will have automated access to a
>computerized database containing 17 million U.S. immigration records.
>At a news conference today on the island, Statue of Liberty-Ellis
Island Foundation Chairman Emeritus Lee Iacocca announced plans for the
American Family Immigration History Center, expected to open in the year 2000.
During the past five years, the Church, in cooperation with the foundation
>and the National Park Service, has spent more than two million
volunteer hours digitizing Ellis Island records. To date, some 65 percent of
>records have been extracted from microfilmed copies of the original
>ledgers--passenger records and ships' manifests--which were mostly
>hand-written, faded and damaged. The original documents were destroyed
>The remaining 35 percent of the records will be extracted and digitized
>by the opening of the center, which will be situated in the Ellis Island
>Immigration Museum. The center will house state-of-the-art interactive
>computer technology that will bring family documentation and
genealogical exploration to visitors.
>The Ellis Island records represent some 60 percent of all U.S.
immigration records. It is estimated that more than 100 million Americans
can trace their roots to immigrants who passed through Ellis Island between
>1892 and 1924.
>The Family History Department of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, is a world leader in genealogical research, with more than
3,200 family history centers worldwide and the world's largest collection of
>family history records, housed in Salt Lake City.
>From mormon-news: Mormon News and Events
>Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included
Just wanted to ask the person that send the queries for the newsletter to me
to please resend them. I was deleting a bunch of post on a list I have to be
on that didn't related to the parishes I upload from and happen to hit the
delete key once too many times. I registed in my mind what I did when it was
too late. The post was today.
To all others: get those queries in VERY SOON as we are going to try to get
most of it done in the next couple of weeks and try to get ready to mail to
the printers before Christmas.
New files loaded tonight ..... submitted by guess who ...... <g>
Mary Alice Lewis Lovell
Gladys Cannon Luther
Minnie Hale McCarty
Evelyn Bishop Milstead
Amanda Pyburn Morris
Josephine Harrington Riggs
Henry I. Shaw
Mrs. L. R. Simmons
Zell Jones Simmons
Joyce Love Allen Stare
Cecil Adrian Taylor
J.R. "Uncle Shep" Terral
Kathryne Stephens Tullos
Mrs. I.S. Walker
Rufus G. Wall
OBITS: Melonea W. Allen
Berrian "Buddy" Bailey
Clifton D. Barton
Gertrude Anderson Barton
Horace L. Boyett
Joe Bevill Butts
Mary Susie Calhoun
E. W. Cunningham
Julius Ray Dean
Thelma Colwell Crain deBerge
Mrs. C.O. Garris
Katie Gibson Hall
Mrs. L.B. Hinton
Frances Dover Jaureguy
Wiley C. Jones
all submitted by Gregg Davies
I would like a copy of those McIlwain cemetery records too, please. I already
have a copy of the Sardis Baptist Church Cemetery/Brown Cemetery records, but
anything else would be great.
I would love any O'Neal information also. My O'Neal's married into the
McIlwain's, John Mitchell O'Neal (son of Mitchel M. O'Neal and Sarah J.
Sholars O'Neal) and Eddith Corina McIlwain (daughter of John Thomas McIlwain
and Amy Elizabeth Martin McIlwain) are my husband's great-grandparents. I
know that there were several Sholars from Winn Parish, would you happen to
know who the parents of my Sarah J. Scholars is. by chance? I believe that
she had either a sister or cousin named Louisa Caroline Sholars, who married
John C. Calhoun
Also, I am looking for any information about the following publication:
Louisiana Genealogical Register
According to a genealogical index that I found on the net, there is an article
about the family Bible belong to Mitchel M. O'Neal and -Sarah J. Shalars
Do you know where I can find this publication?
Thanks for all of your help.
Linda Peckham Scroggs
In a message dated 10/24/1998 12:15:24 PM Central Daylight Time,
> I would like more history about the lumber mills and it's people.
> I love the old time stories. They are so interesting even if it
> is not about any of my family, it gives you a look at their time and a
> feeling about what they were living thru.
Sue has transcribed some of the Winn Parish life from the old newspapers and
it will be in the next issue of the newsletter... But we need more "handed
down" stories for both the newsletter and the online archives.
> How about people sending in more photo's. I have one or two I would like
> to copy and send in. Living in Alaska I do not have the access to Photo's
> of past and present family members that have been passed down. A lady
> sent to my a xerox copy of my GGGrandmother born in 1814 and died
> in Winn Parish in 1906. I cried like a baby when I recieved it.
If you can scan in (or get it scanned in) and save it to a file (8 lowercase
letters only) and e-mail to me along with what you want on it, I can upload it
to the Winn Parish site... the only problem is: you "have" to write an
article to go with it! and then send that to Peggy.
I love working with the old photos. (if you don't have a scanner, send me a
COPY --not the original-- and I can scan and upload the photo.)
Peggy, if anyone has a photo of any of the people already in the bio or
obits, would that work???
> I also wonder if we could share family group sheets. I am thankful for
> the help that I have received and am happy to share what I have.
We are not set up to take fgs, but there is a place on the main Louisiana toc
page that is. Just follow directions.
> Thank You
> Terri Meier
Hope this helps. (and send in those articles!!! in some cases only YOU have
the information on ALL our ancestors.
New files loaded today:
CRIMINAL JUSTICE: Roy Malone Killed
POLITICS: Russell Sullivan Appt. to LA Dept. of Education
BIOS: Jimmy L. Terrill
OBITS: B.L. Anderson
Clinton L. Bates
Henry Allen Brady
Urah Z. Bumgardner
W.S. Carter, Sr.
Henry Patrick Dawson
Kenneth T. Egan, Sr.
David Arthur Forrest
Laura M. Forrest
Onnie Oscar Franklin
Dolph R. Greer
Emily Bonnette Haddox
Earl J. Hemphill
Lloyd Hennigan III
Lillie S. Hooper
Sion E. Jenkins
Dr. Sion Ray Jenkins
Bobby Wayne Keen
Lessie D. Keys
Ella Mae Killen
Henry E. Lasyone
Julvina DeSoto Lonadier
William Penn Luther
Ethel Allen Martin
Luther N. Moore, Sr.
Bobby Glen Murry
Elton E. Nash
Mrs. J.W. Perdue
Vasco H. Perdue
Dr. James I. Peters
Salley K. Peters
Ella C. Quarles
James W. Quinalty
James H. Sanders
Bertie Dunn Shows
Kermit Carson Simmons
Arthur A. Stroud
Captain Harry M. Tyler
William A. Watts
Charley Allen Williams
Maude Kolb Worsham
All submitted by Gregg Davies.
I am curious as to what would generate discussion from each of you to
the list. Are you only interested in your particular surnames? Would
you like to know more about the history of Winn Parish LA? Is there a
particular ancestor or two you just can't find, and maybe you
would like a "Most Wanted" discussion? Just what interests you as
subscribers to the Winn Parish mailing list? Share your interests with me and
Please post your responses to the list because your thoughts might spark
an idea in someone else's mind. I am interested to know what interests
my subscribers, and what topics others might "want" to post in future emails.
Email lists can't help folks without posts.
I know that the Winn Parish online archives is the biggest in the state
<smile> but not all of the information "we all need" is in the archives. Each
of you have something that may be needed by other Winn Parish researchers.
(Does anyone have any information about the father of George Frank Davis? Or
even information about George Frank, himself???)
I know you are all out their folks, I can see it with each new subscription
to the list. (We've had five in the last week!) We continue to grow, and are
close to 100 subscribers. So lets hear what you think? This list is for all
of you, so don't be
afraid or timid about posting. With the exception of three or four
rules I swear by for lists, (no flames, no non-Winn commerical advertisments,
no attachments to the list, etc.) I am really not the witch some may think I
Lets get some discussion going about Winn Parish genealogy. What should we
talk about? If you don't tell me, I will never know. The Winn Parish mailing
list was created for all members of the organization and this list could be
used as a "online meeting" if that is what is needed, as I know many of you
are from out-of-state and can't come to the meetings. So... lets use it for a
For those of you that haven't seen the new "GenConnect" query system set up on
the Winn Parish Web page, you really should take a look. There is a
"discussion" going on the "Adams Family." I wonder how many out there is
descended from the Washington Burgess Adams? My husband is a descendent of
Mary Emoline. I have Bertie's Book on the Adams and a lot of more research
that I've put together. Most of it I've already gotten put into my computer
data base. Some I found a couple of weeks ago that will be showing up in the
next issue of the newsletter! (Can't wait? <grin> The information was on
Sheriff Joe Adams)
So... what are YOU working on?
Not many tonight but I'll get back at it tomorrow. Gee .... wonder what
I did on Saturdays before the archives! <g> Oh yeah, now I remember ....
went shopping and spent money! Guess I'm better off here after all.
BIOS: Judge Henry L. Yelverton (submitted by Deanne Pardue)
SCHOOLS: LA State Seminary of Learning, 1867-68
LA State Seminary of Learning, 1868-69
(both prepared by Deanne Pardue, submitted by Donald Johnson)
OBITS: Mrs. Sarah Burnett
Aaron Tillman Drewett, Jr.
Effie Colvin Drewett
Homer B. Drewett
Ira V. Drewett
Levi E. Drewett
Thomas J. Drewett, Sr.
William Otto Drewett
(all submitted by Michael Drewett)
New archive files submitted by Gregg Davies:
SPORTS: 1959 Atlanta High Boys Track Team
1921 Dodson High Football team
MILITARY: Shepherd A. McConathy Awarded Bronze Star
REUNIONS: Jim & Ella Ophelia Hall Warner 50th Anniversary
DODSON HIGH: 1959 3rd Grade Clean Plate Club
OBITS: Huey Philetus Bishop
Delia Dean Brewton
Ida Babers Brewton
Annie Wyatt Little Chandler
Luther Jack Cox
Billy E. DeBusk
Tommie C. Dick
Zelma Stroud Bumgardner Donaldson
Lillie Amelia Fick
William T. Gilcrease
Adam Harvey Hendrix
James Robert Horne
John S. Hunt
Willie Virgil Jones, Sr.
John B. Lasyone
Harold E. "Ike" Lowery
Theodore E. Maxey
Mrs. George W. (Sarah) McElroy
Cyrus McGinty, Sr.
Blanche Allen Monrose
Dr. L.B. Newsom
Carrah Greer Page
Ollie Stinson Puckitt
Jesse E. Rayburn
Rev. Albert Roberson
Dottie Howell Snyder
Joe D. Spence
Mrs. Sidney Stone
Lola Jean O'Neal Taylor
Arthur W. Wilson
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> From: Sue Cook <SCook(a)dlr.com>
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> Subject: [MSRANKIN-L] The 'Original' Lorenzo Dow
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> Hi Everyone!
> Last week I got into a conversation on the Virginia Roots list
> the circuit-riding preacher, Lorenzo Dow. Lots of us have a Lorenzo Dow
> 'Somebody' in our data. Since I have a lot of information about the
> 'original' Lorenzo Dow, they asked if I would post a web page about him.
> Well, I ran home from work that night and put up the Lorenzo Dow
> page after supper! I hope you find it interesting. He was something! I
> can just see him jumping out of a church window onto a horse and riding
> shouting that he would be back one year from the day! He did, too!
> The site is: http://www.acun.com/dentons The link to the article
> about Lorenzo Dow is about half way down the first page. There may be a
> typos from the scanning process. I was in kind of a hurry and will fix
> I hope you enjoy the stories!
> Sue Montgomery-Cook
Jo had originally told me about this article, but when I read my Rankin co.
Miss mailing list, I really enjoyed what Sue had to say about him jumping out
a church window. Take A Reading!!! (Note: several Winn Parish Families are
from the Rankin Co. MS area. This is a slow list, but occassionally something
real good comes through if you are interested in joining it.)
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#1 [MSRANKIN-L] The 'Original' Lorenz [Sue Cook <SCook(a)dlr.com>]
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Hi, It's me again.
Sue Badeaux is in charge of the Jan newsletter and she want me to let you know
that she has about 25 pages toward that issue. It would help her get it done
early, if anyone on this listed wanted to e-mail her their query at
DO IT NOW!!!
All 100? issues of Everton's Genealogical Helper that was donated by Peggy
Brady on Oct 10 at the last meeting has now been index (toc only) and has been
uploaded. There are some real good research articles in them. As soon as
Earlene gets them carded they will be ready for use.
Last week I got into a conversation on the Virginia Roots list about
the circuit-riding preacher, Lorenzo Dow. Lots of us have a Lorenzo Dow
'Somebody' in our data. Since I have a lot of information about the
'original' Lorenzo Dow, they asked if I would post a web page about him.
Well, I ran home from work that night and put up the Lorenzo Dow
page after supper! I hope you find it interesting. He was something! I
can just see him jumping out of a church window onto a horse and riding away
shouting that he would be back one year from the day! He did, too!
The site is: http://www.acun.com/dentons The link to the article
about Lorenzo Dow is about half way down the first page. There may be a few
typos from the scanning process. I was in kind of a hurry and will fix them
I hope you enjoy the stories!