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Hello. Someone on another list sent out a message giving the following URL.
I've checked in out, and on 1 July (this Sunday), the fee for a copy of one
SS application will jump from $7 to $27 if you do have the SSN, and to $29 if
you do not. Other fees are going up as well. The entire list is at the
So let's all get those requests into the mail.
Good-day Brenda and D.J., I dont have a Huber listed yet in my Lanier
file. I descend from Marie sister of John Adolphus. Louis brother of
John and son of Lewis Vaughn Lanier is also one of my lines, I have 5
listed sons of this family, but only later generations for my 2 lines.
I will let you know if I come across Huber in my searches of Mason Co.
Regards, John Richard King
From: D.J. Young <anthonybassano(a)hotmail.com>
To: LANIER-L(a)rootsweb.com <LANIER-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Friday, 22 June 2001 10:33
Subject: Re: [LANIER-L] Re; Huber Lanier
>>From: "Brenda Barnett" Reply-To: LANIER-L(a)rootsweb.com To:
>>LANIER-L(a)rootsweb.com Subject: [LANIER-L] Re; Huber Lanier Date:
>>Jun 2001 11:16:23 -0400
>>I am looking for info on the line for Huber Lanier who married Hopie
>>Mitchell around the early 1900's in Mason county, WV. Thanks! Brenda
>>==== LANIER Mailing List ==== Lanier-L, a discussion list for
>>of the Lanier family and related lines.
>My GGGrandparents John Adolphus Lanier (born 1840) and Mary Bush
>from Mason Co. Could be John had a brother living in the same
>father was Lewis Lanier and they had a large family. DJ Young
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My husband's ancestor, Thomas Luther Lanier, moved to Perris CA, before 1910 with his second wife, Ida May Holt Bailey and her three sons: Charles A., M.E., and Walter H. Do you have a connection to any of these?
Zema Winifred Biddlecome. She was married on 22 Jan
1921 and divorced 11 September 1922. They were married in St. Joseph County, Indiana. They resided in
Owosso (Shiawassee County) Michigan. She stayed there but he did a lot of traveling salesman. They divorced in the
county seat of Corunna (Shiawassee County) Michigan. They had no children. Zema passed away on 3 August 1976. David Benton Lanier died in Chicago, Ill in 1963.
David Lanier was married once before and it was annulled on 21 October 1920.
Cheryl Myers nee LaNier
>From: "Brenda Barnett" Reply-To: LANIER-L(a)rootsweb.com To:
>LANIER-L(a)rootsweb.com Subject: [LANIER-L] Re; Huber Lanier Date: Thu, 21
>Jun 2001 11:16:23 -0400
>I am looking for info on the line for Huber Lanier who married Hopie
>Mitchell around the early 1900's in Mason county, WV. Thanks! Brenda
>==== LANIER Mailing List ==== Lanier-L, a discussion list for researchers
>of the Lanier family and related lines.
My GGGrandparents John Adolphus Lanier (born 1840) and Mary Bush Lanier are
from Mason Co. Could be John had a brother living in the same county. His
father was Lewis Lanier and they had a large family. DJ Young
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
As most of us have learned, we sometimes come across some rather strange
things when doing census research. Probably the most obvious is that people
do not age always in 10 year increments, which then confuses us as to just
how old they really were. This is why I like to look at more than 2 censuses.
In fact I try to find a person in every census in which they were known to be
However, the following scenario is one that I had not run across before.
I was asked by a friend to help her research her family. She only knew her
father's name and believed that her grandfather carried the same name. I was
rather quickly able to find her father listed with his parents which verified
her assumption. Now this man had a very strange first name "Loomis." So I
wasn't worried about finding a bunch of people with that name.
I was ready to continue the search at this point for the grandfather's
parents. I knew that he was born in New Jersey (Bergen County) and that he
should be about age 8 in the 1880 census. Now since I was also researching
the family that Loomis married into, I was also looking at the 1880 Rockland
County New York census. These people happened to be mountain people and the
mountains run right through both states and counties.
While going through the Rockland County census I was very happy to discover
Loomis with his parents and siblings. But then came the weird stuff. I was
just perusing the Bergen County census for other relatives when I found the
This in itself has happened to me before, but never in two different counties
in two different states. I could have left it at that since I knew the
mountains ran together and the census taker probably never realized that he
had crossed over into New Jersey.
What this leads up to (sorry it took so long to explain) is how different the
two census reports were. The following is exactly how the two censuses
appeared. I am not using the last name to protect the person who I am doing
the research for.
Please note the dates these censuses were taken.
ROCKLAND COUNTY, NEW YORK - Ramapo 2nd ED June 10, 1880
page 19 166/172
Owen 41m farm laborer New Jersey head
Nancy E. 35f same wife
Stephen 15m same son
Malinda 13f same dau
Henriette 11f New York dau
Celia Ann 9f same dau
Loomis E. 8m same son
Leonard 5m same son
David 4m same son
BERGEN COUNTY, NEW JERSEY- Hohokus ED 5 June 16, 1880
page 18 179/184
Owe (sic) 48m laborer New Jersey head
Nancie E. 47f same wife
Malinda 14f same dau
Stephen 13m same dau
Margaret 10f same dau
Ana 8f same dau
David 6m same son
Tunis 4m same son
John 1m same son
As you can see there are quite a few differences. Through further research I
have determined that the census from Rockland County is the more accurate of
I would sure like to know who gave such a huge age difference to the parents.
I still have not figured out Leonard versus John.
I guess the point is that we have to look at many censuses and not just one
in order to find the truth.
Once again I am sorry it took this much space, but I felt this was a very
interesting case scenario. Definitely the strangest I have come across.
We had a meeting last night for all the librarians at our Family History
Center. The 1880 census is available to order through the LDS site. The cost
is $49.00. I have heard that it is back ordered at this time. The web address
for the LDS site is-
I also found out that our library probably has the only copy out so far. This
is because one of our librarians did the beta testing for the program so he
was sent one for free. He then gave us his copy. So you might want to call
your local Family History Center to see if they have received their copy yet.
This whole project took eleven years to complete. We did ask if any other
censuses were being done, but at this time no one knew for sure. If I hear
anything I will let you know.
If anyone needs to find a Family History Center you can also go to the LDS
site and they have a complete list of all Centers. Since I live in Southern
California, we are pretty much inundated with centers (we call ourselves Salt
Lake City South.)
Anyway, I hope this clears things up. Sorry if I have been tying up the list
with this, but believe me once you see the product you will understand my
excitement over it.
Some people have sent questions regarding the new 1880 census being
distributed by the LDS church.
First, it is available for purchase. I believe the price is $49.00.
Second, this is the complete census. In other words- every state or territory
that did a census that year is included.
Third, it contains a national index in case you do not know the state of
Fourth, I have been informed that you can do wildcard searches (I just have
not tried it myself yet.)
It is available at any LDS Family History Center. In the past I have seen
companies other than the church selling CD's that the church actually
published. Most recently I saw the Freedman's bank CD being offered for $6.50
through ancestry.com. Any CD put out by the church is going to be cheaper if
purchased directly from them. We sell the Freedman's bank CD for $5.00.
Hopefully this has answered some of your questions. Like I said previously I
cannot do lookups. I do not own a copy. I have access because I volunteer at
our local Family History Library (So I can sneak in when the library is
closed and search all I want)
For some of you it may be a worthy purchase. It is easy to upload, but be
aware that it consists of about 40 discs. That works out to a little over a
dollar a disc. Pretty good deal.
I would like to find a picture of Lloyd Addison Lanier of Monticello, Wayne
County. He lived from 1829-1879 and was an owner of the Mill at Mill
Please contact me at jpoore1(a)home.com.
The 1880 census that was promised by the LDS church arrived last Monday. All
I can say is that it is much more than I had expected. We had assumed that it
was only an index, but it ends up to be the complete census. It is fully
indexed and serchable in various ways. i.e. by current state of residence, by
place of birth, by name (of course), by age, etc.
The cost for family history centers was $49.00. Considering that this is the
complete census, that is pretty darn cheap. The only thing they have ommited
is birthplaces of parents, so you still have to go to the original record
(which I would do regardless). Once you have found a person you just click on
their name and the census info appears (with eveyone living with that
person). You can also do a neighbor search.
All in all this is an excellent resource.
The only problem I have found so far is that it does not do searches using
All I can say is that if you are anywhere near a family history center run
don't walk. You will find it is worth the effort.
One thing to add is that I am not volunteering to do lookups. The primary
reason for this is that I am on many lists and I would be inundated. I just
have too much of my own research to do.
PS It is possible that this is available for purchase through the church. You
might want to check out their site.
I need information about the more recent descendants of Sarah Ann Lanier b.
7 Feb 1854 in Davidson Co. NC. Her parents (John and Nancy Morris Lanier)
were in Kansas in 1873 where she married Charles H. Bing. She was Bing's
second wife. Sarah had 8 children:
James Clyde, Lola Estella, Nellie Overna, Samuel Melvin, Charles Arthur,
Jessie Irene, Lawrence Leonard, and Edith Lucille.
Is anyone else interested in this family?
I have hit a brick wall with an ancestor - WILLIAM G. LANIER - born abt.1815 in Tennessee. He is listed in the 1860 Federal Census living in Davidson Co., TN, and in the 1880 Federal Census living in Sumner Co., TN. On the 1880 Census, the birthplace of both his mother and father is listed as France. Does anyone know of Lanier immigrants coming to the US in the early 1800's? If so, where would they have entered the country? Any information that will help me continue this search will be greatly appreciated.