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A few days ago I sent most of you a msg commenting on my skepticism
regarding the acquisition of RootsWeb by MyFamily/Ancestry. I hope this
works as there are some talented people involved. However, my
skepticism is reinforced by material in Dick Eastman's weekly
newsletter, PUBLISHED BY ANCESTRY
"...the non-profit operation was facing a bleak financial picture."
RW is/was NOT a 'non-profit' in the sense that term is normally used and
understood. As best as I can tell it was a PARTNERSHIP. The only
reason it was 'non-profit' is that expenses exceeded income, and as we
all know in a proprietorship or partnership, the principles can have a
lot of perks. It definitely did not have tax exempt status as a 501.c.3
corp. from the IRS. From what I can tell, such status was NEVER applied
for, tho this illusion was implied, so I have been told.
This is not the first time Eastman has both misled and just flat LIED in
items in his newsletter. Since he went on the Gentech, Inc. board, he
published stories regarding GT conference attendance and exhibitors that
was exaggerated significantly. He knew the truth when he wrote it, was
advised of the misstatements and refused to correct it. Do I use harsh
words? What would you call it?
I dislike writing information like this. I once considered Dick one of
my best friends, having known him personally since c1993. Before that I
was an active subscriber to his forum on Compuserve. I promoted him as
the keynote speaker at Gentech I, assisted him in promotion of
Compuserve membership. I wept with him thru the death of his son in a
skiing accident followed by a nasty divorce. In the summer of '98 we
worked on ideas relating to a really big genealogy conference and
decided together that it was beyond the capability of GT. About the
same time he asked my advice regarding the sponsorship of his
But in the fall of'98, I called his (and the rest of the GT bd's)
attention to significant and continuing violation of both state and
federal law. Almost immediately Dick violated a personal confidence
regarding the health of a mutual friend, and from that point to this has
continued to condone the misbehavior of GT. This spring, he refused to
assist in the identification to the genealogy community of the
"Halbert's West" scam.
Pls note that this msg is addressed to him as I do not talk behind
people's backs as he and his associates do. There are many blind
Dick, I call upon you once again to immediately correct the misleading
statements you have made in your newsletter.
If you are into scanning photos, documents, or whatever, you might want
surf over to http://www.scantips.com/
where you will find a great deal of information. I rec'd this from
another list. It is TECHNICAL, but I am about as artistic as a box of
rocks and can work with it, so everyone else should be able to hack
Pls don't ask ME questions about this. I can work my way thru it, but I
know my limitations!
Hope you find it useful.
The above was announced today tho it has been rumored for some weeks.
This may take many of you by surprise as I am aware taht many thot RW
was a non-profit. I am not sure this is a good move as I am aware of a
number of practices by Ancestry that are NOT in the best interest of
good genealogy and are just plain dishonest in my opinion. I will
provide further detail on this as I am trying to get them to remove
some files that were not the property of the submitter.
Many people are reporting problems with unreliable GEDCOM transfers.
This is nothing new, but is getting worse. Eight years ago an
organization was formed, Gentech, Inc., "To promote responsible use of
technology in genealogy research." I was a founding director and served
a 3yr term. This problem was addressed and possible solutions,
directions, etc. were discussed at our very first conference.
Unfortunately, that organization fell into the control of some whose
interests lay solely in their own self promotion and NOTHING was done.
Mow, genealogy software has a de facto inferior std established by
Barbie and Ken (Mattel owns Broderbund that produces WFT). The below
msg was written by an old friend Ted Chadbourne and 1st appeared on the
GEDCOM-L, a list for techies purported to have interest in the subject.
As I recall, one of several reasons for the incompatibility of Family
Tree Maker (FTM) and it's trouble translating GEDCOMs of any depth is
that they used the terms "GEDCOM 4" and "GEDCOM 5" (lacking any decimal
for version level) - using "GEDCOM 5" for a draft never adopted by the
GEDCOM sponsor nor used by any of the more responsible manufacturers of
Another deficiency, of course, was FTM's inability to handle depth in
source citation, as in when the source for a date is different than the
source for the corresponding place, or to provide for either alternate
candidates or . . . (maybe I should stop there).
It appeared at the recent NGS Annual Meeting, from what I heard, the
effort to downgrade users of the discontinued Ultimate Family Tree to
FTM did not go over well, and apparently The Master Genealogists was
picking up a new customer base.
What to do? FGS, NGC, NEHGS, and all other genealogy organizations of
which I am aware have essentially ignored the problem, frequently aiming
back stabs at a few of us that tried to get somebody's attention....
boat-rockers are NOT well-liked. There is NO reason why a reliable data
transfer protocol could not be agreed upon, except for egos. The
problem is really one of creating a viable mass, a market, in other
If you've had the problem and would like to be a positive influence in
generating a solution, you have my address.