You are struggling with -
I have failed miserably to find any information about her [JANE
Birth or Marriage to James Blackburn which must have been around 1805.
and you are a bit surprised that Ruth has found -
According to the LDS Family Search site, James and Jane were married
Broughton near Preston (LAN) on 11 Jan 1808.
because the baptisms of their children were in the RC Chapels of St Mary,
Newhouse, and St Francis, Hill Chapel.
The explanation lies in English law. By Hardwicke's Act 1754, marriages in
England were only recognised in law if they were performed in a licensed
Anglican church by an authorised minister. The licensed churches were mainly
the ancient Parish Churches, though in very large parishes some chapels of
ease were licensed. The authorised ministers were usually the Rector of the
Parish or his curates. This law applied to all people (except Quakers and
This means that if you are looking for a marriage between Catholics in the
period 1754 to 1837 you should first look in the registers of the local
Anglican Parish Church. I think both of the places, Newhouse and Hill
are probably closer to St John the Baptist, Broughton, than to Goosnargh
Church. The parish and chapelry boundaries are not simple in this area.
What about the Catholic records? There still seems to have been some
reluctance by the Catholic clergy to keep many records at this time. If
records were generated, it is possible that they have not survived the
intervening two centuries. As you know, most of what has survived in this
area has been transcribed and published by the Catholic Record Society.
Like you, I cannot find a likely baptism for Jane CARDWELL. Looking at the
Baptisms of the children of James BLACKBURN, I have nine but the mother of
the first one (Cuthbert) is noted as Aliciae [Alice]. I THINK this is
probably a recording error by Fr Carter, and not a transcription error.
Having the entry checked at the Lancashire Record Office would show if it is
a transcription error. The date of birth of this child fits quite nicely
with the date of the marriage that Ruth has quoted. Interestingly, the son,
George, born in 1811, has god-parents Cuthbert CARDWELL and Elizabeth
CARDWELL. Fr Carter does not indicate if these two are man and wife, or
brother and sister, or ... I SUSPECT that they are brother and sister, but
that is a pure GUESS. If you look for baptisms of these two god-parents in
the CRS volumes there are two Cuthbert CARDWELL baptisms in the 1770s, one
with his father as Peter, and the other with father Thomas. The children of
Thomas are Elizabeth 1773, Cuthbert 1774, Antony 1777 and Agnes 1778.
There is a gap of two and a half years between Cuthbert and Antony where
there could have been another child. If Alice was 18+ years old when she
married Thomas BLACKBURN she would have been born before 1790, so she could
have been born after Agnes. So where is her baptism? This family used three
RC chapels for the baptisms of these four children. Newhouse, Hill Chapel
and Fernyhalgh. It is possible that they moved towards Preston and had other
children who could have been baptised at St Wilfrid / St Mary in Preston.
There is a copy of the baptisms for this chapel in the LRO, but it has not
Remember most of the last paragraph is SPECULATION
Hope this helps
Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Harding" <ejh99(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: [LAN] JANE CARDWELL c1785 BROUGHTON