On 15 February 2016 at 03:35, Penny Trueman via <lancsgen(a)rootsweb.com>
I don't know about the other sites but, when you sign up with
agree that what you 'post' becomes THEIR property; which is why you cannot
The "ownership" (i.e. the Intellectual Property Rights in whatever form
,such as Copyright) **remains** with the original creator (i.e. the poster
if it's original content).
"Except for the rights granted in this Agreement, Ancestry acquires no
title or ownership rights in or to any User Provided Content you submit and
nothing in this Agreement conveys any ownership rights in such User
Provided Content on the Websites."
So it's NOT their property. (And of course, sometimes it's not even the
property of the poster, but we'll slide over that).
What you actually do is grant Ancestry a **permanent** **licence** to use
the material that you post. "You grant Ancestry and its Group Companies a
non-exclusive, transferable, sublicenseable, world-wide, royalty-free
license for the maximum amount of time permitted by applicable law to host,
store, copy, publish, distribute, provide access to and otherwise use User
Provided Content uploaded or otherwise submitted by you to the Websites".
Some of that is practical and is the same everywhere - if you don't grant
them a licence to copy your material then they can't back it up and can't
show it on Ancestry.com
if you submitted it to Ancestry.co.uk.
Where people often disagree is that the agreement allows Ancestry to index
your stuff (so how else will anyone find it???) and it then becomes a
permanent part of the sales offering provided by Ancestry. So Ancestry
unquestionably benefit from your work. Everyone really has to make up their
own mind whether this is acceptable or not and I'm not about to criticise
anyone who decides "no". I'm happy with the Terms - but even I don't
to load photos up there - I've seen too many photos stored against people
who died before photography was invented and I really don't want to see my
father's photo used as a portrait of someone else entirely who just happens
to have the same name. Personal decisions.
You can certainly download your tree as a GEDCOM. You can sync your tree
and images to your FTM database on your PC. I presume that would sync any
of your own provided content. What you can't do is download the images and
/ or user provided content in a GEDCOM to your own PC. Frankly, I wouldn't
allow it either as that would make it far to easy for someone to create a
GEDCOM containing whole counties worth of census images, which they could
then sell on. You can download stuff to your PC one image at a time.