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Hello Nan, Adrian, and all
RootsWeb has been off-line for several days.
Nan Bailey <aus.bailey(a)gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 27, 2019 6:14 PM
>Subject: [LAN] Re: Lancashire Mailing List
>Hi Adrian, I have just read this message so that came through, and I also
>haven't seen much traffic on the list.
>Maybe the members are just all busy with other things such as watching the
>live streaming of the Roots Tech conference in Salt Lake City.
Have criminals amongst your ancestors?
Who Do You Think You Are has an online article that might help you find your ancestors' prison records, the 14 best websites for tracing prisoners in your family history:
The National Archives has "How to trace your criminal ancestors" at
and links to 16 research guides at
Good luck! If you find something interesting, please do post about it. It would be a crime not to share.
Thank you for letting us know about the additions to Genuki, Phil. I use Genuki nearly every day and would hate to think what I'd do without such a great site. Your hard work and dedication is so very much appreciated.
Phil Stringer <philip.t.stringer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>We have recently made some additions to all the Genuki place pages which
>now have four new tabs under the title line. These are:
>View - which is just a label on the existing view of the page.
>Nearby churches - Nearby churches plotted on a map, which you could
>already do from a link under the 'Churches' topic.
>Nearby places - Nearby places plotted on a map. This can help you see
>the area cover by each place page. I am currently adding boundary lines
>on the map for Lancashire and have just about done the area between the
>rivers Ribble and Lune. More will appear in the future but it is taking
>quite a bit of time to draw them.
>Place search - This is added functionality that we have added for
>England, Scotland and Wales. There are many small places on maps such as
>the names of farms which do not appear in our gazetteer but you do tend
>to find them in localised records such as parish registers. This
>facility allows you to search for these names within a distance of the
>place page. This produces a list with a link to show you a map with a
>marker at that location. There are over a million names in this dataset
>so we hope this can help you find these localised place names.
>I hope these new facilities will help you with your research.
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The Chronicle Herald, Halifax, Nov Scotia, February 20, 2019
Edward Terence "Terry" Rigby
Age 87, of Windsor, passed away on Tuesday, February 12, 2019. Terry was
born in Preston, England on November 5, 1931. He completed his education
in England and trained as a Machinist before emigrating to Canada in
1956. Upon entry to Canada he joined the RCAF. After retiring from the
Air Force, he worked as a machinist at Minas Basin Pulp and Paper in
Hantsport. He also had a full machine shop in his household basement
where he made his own working steam-powered miniature train. Terry was
also an avid sports fan, particularly Premier League soccer - he knew
player stats, team stats and manager strategies for every team and was
known to put a wager or two on whichever team he deemed worthy at the
time. Although a proud Canadian, Terry never lost his desire to go back
home and each year he would return to his home town of Preston for a
visit. Terry is survived by his daughter, Janice (Darin); grandsons,
Brandon and Devon. He was preceded in death by his wife of 56 years,
Hazel; father, Joe; mother, Edith; stepfather, Bob; and sister, Diane.
Arrangements have been entrusted to DeMont Family Funeral Home &
Cremation Service, 419 Albert St., Windsor (902-798-8317). There will be
no visitation or funeral service. Messages of condolence may be sent to
the family by visiting: www.demontfamilyfuneralhome.ca
You're welcome, Dot. :-)
Dot holden wrote:
Thank you for posting this Lynne - great news! Most of us do not need the paper copy anyway so a PDF file is better.
Always looking for my elusive MENZIES/HELSBY/HARRISON/BIBBY/BARTON relatives!
"GRO has been piloting a service providing PDF copies of historical birth and death records. From the 16th February 2019 PDF’s have become a permanent service.
"Applications for PDF’s cost £7, must be made online and include a GRO index reference. England and Wales records which are available to order in PDF format include:
"Note: A PDF is not a certificate and has no “evidential” value, therefore a paper certified copy [certificate] is required for official purposes, e.g. applying for a passport, driving licence or where required to give notice of marriage.
"Change in Fees
"From 16th February 2019 GRO have increased the price of certificates and made changes to delivery options. Extra charges will apply if you do not order certificates online or include a GRO index reference (where available).
"Multilingual Standard Forms: These are now available with applications for certificates (or separately with a certificate of no impediment) if needed for use in EU countries. Please see our ’Most customers want to know’ section for more information."
Your message reached me but doesn't look like it was distributed to the list.
It's funny that I saw your post on the WDYTYA site and that you turned out to be a subscriber! Glad you received lots of help and possibly a new relative here on the list.
cynthia brown wrote:
I am the person who posted about the Clarksons and Biglands on WDYTYA. Thank you for all the help. CB
From Ormskirk and District Family History Society:
"A new collection of views of some of the historic features to be found in some of the towns and villages within Ormskirk and District Family History Society's area of interest. In this video, we explore the origins of the names of some key places on our map, many of which have Norse origins.
"Ormskirk and District Family History Society was founded in 1979, and is a registered UK charity (no. 1004895), dedicated to encouraging people to research their family history in south-west Lancashire. We have monthly meeting in Ormskirk and our organisation includes members all over the world.
"You can find us online at www.odfhs.website or on Facebook at www.facebook.com/OrmskirkDistrictFamilyHistorySociety/"
The video can be viewed at <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of8n0jHPTzQ>.
We have recently made some additions to all the Genuki place pages which
now have four new tabs under the title line. These are:
View - which is just a label on the existing view of the page.
Nearby churches - Nearby churches plotted on a map, which you could
already do from a link under the 'Churches' topic.
Nearby places - Nearby places plotted on a map. This can help you see
the area cover by each place page. I am currently adding boundary lines
on the map for Lancashire and have just about done the area between the
rivers Ribble and Lune. More will appear in the future but it is taking
quite a bit of time to draw them.
Place search - This is added functionality that we have added for
England, Scotland and Wales. There are many small places on maps such as
the names of farms which do not appear in our gazetteer but you do tend
to find them in localised records such as parish registers. This
facility allows you to search for these names within a distance of the
place page. This produces a list with a link to show you a map with a
marker at that location. There are over a million names in this dataset
so we hope this can help you find these localised place names.
I hope these new facilities will help you with your research.
Hello Cynthia. Are you named 'Pond Jumper' on any other sites? There is a post just recently posted by our Lynne with the name Isabella BIGLAND . See as follows.
By the way I have done a DNA test. But not heard from anyone querying the BIGLAND name. My BIGLAND information is earlier than 1800. Its my 6xGreatgrandmother Jane Bigland born 1723 in the Cartmel area. Married to a Reverend John Gibson. She is on my mothers side of the family. Note your Isabella had as a witness a Robert Gibson B1700. My Johns father was named Robert.
Through the Ancestry DNA test I now confirm I am 47% South Asian and my sister is my half sister. Seems I have an unknown father. I have been in touch with over a dozen South Asian's. It appears my DNA is from the Punjab area of India. Possibly the city of Lahore. I belong to the Khatri caste and I have a number of surnames to play around with belonging to my DNA. Most of these people are in the USA and have been very helpful. My DNA test has been adjusted and I have fewer Irish DNA and no American Indian. Contact me if you want to compare my DNA to see if our BIGLAND roots connect..
Mike Morris Toronto Canada ex Manchester England.
The Clarkson and Bigland Families Of Lancashire
by pondjumper » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:36 am
Is anyone familiar with the Clarkson families in Lancashire? James Clarkson b abt 1789/90 and Isabella Bigland b abt 1804 were married in Lancashire and had four children before immigrating to America in 1833/4. I find Clarkson marriage, baptismal and burial records on the Lancashire Parish website going back to the 1500s but I can't place any of them as parents or relatives of James. I found very few Bigland records. I found no baptismal records for the four children born in England, Margaret (or Margarett) 1825, James 1826, Ann 1828, and Elizabeth 1832. Anthony 1835, John 1837, Hannah 1838, Isabella 1842 and William 1844 all born in PA USA.
Marriage: 24 Dec 1824 St Oswald (formerly Holy Trinity), Warton nr Lancaster, Lancs.
James Clarkson - (X), this parish
Isabella Bigland - (X), this parish
Witness: William Atkinson; Ann Atkinson; Thomas Whitehead; Robert Gibson
Married by Banns by: Jas. Barns, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1837, Page 45, Entry 134
Source: LDS Film 1849662
I live in the US and any help would be appreciated. Regards,C.B.
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:54 pm
On Sunday, February 17, 2019 05:34:18 PM EST, cynthia brown <brownca62(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have a few posts of late including a female Bigland whom I am trying to place. Isabella Bigland b abt 1804 possibly Lancashire or near. Married there 1824. Have you tested with any dna companies. I see this name so seldom, we might be related. She is a 4xs g-grandmother. CB
my husbands DNA shows Easter island and also Hainan Island off the coast of
Hong Kong . How can that be when his family are from Heywood , Lancs. ??
However he has a 5 x grgrandfather , b 1798/9 , Amsterdam . A
Sephardic Jew and they dispersed
around the Mediterranean and South America .
All very much a surprise . We did receive a match in Sth America from 37
markers but sadly no one replied to my e-mail . I have recently e-mailed a
man who has an interest in Easter Island so I am hoping he can throw some
light on this mystery .
Shirley in NZ nee PIERCE ( Haslington/Wigan )
The next meeting of the LFHHS Pendle & Burnley Branch will take place on
Wednesday 20th February in the usual venue, the upstairs meeting room at
Colne Library BB8 0AP.
The speaker is Steve Williams with a talk called, "Four Tins". It looks
at military and social history using four tins - a WW1 Christmas tin, a
tin of emergency rations issued for D-Day in WW2, a coal miner's lunch
tin and a tin of Heinz baked beans; all have a Lancashire connection.
The talk starts at 7.30pm - doors open at 7pm so there will be a chance
to chat to other members and perhaps ask for help with any problems you
have come across in your research. All welcome. The meeting room is
upstairs but there is a lift available. The full address is Colne
Library, Market Street, Colne, Lancashire, BB8 0AP.
Please note: Colne Library closes to the public at 6pm. The meeting room
is accessed via the rear entrance facing the car park which has no
restrictions in the evenings. This door is locked once the talk begins
(7.30pm) for security reasons, so please try to arrive in good time.
See the website http://www.lfhhs-pendleandburnley.org.uk for further
Application forms to join the Society will be available - please just ask.
From the BBC:
"Researchers are trying to find descendants of a forgotten World War One soldier whose remains were found in a Belgian hamlet.
"Ministry of Defence officials think the soldier may have been William Cheetham Taylor, who was born in Manchester and served with the Lancashire Fusiliers.
"They are now seeking to match DNA from the remains with living relatives.
"The soldier is thought to have been killed in 1914 during heavy fighting in Le Touguet, near the French border.
"The remains of six soldiers were discovered by a team of Belgian archaeologists carrying out a dig before a building development in the hamlet.
"MOD researchers found two of the six to be unidentifiable, and are awaiting results from DNA tests from potential relatives of a further three, who were all found to be from the fusiliers...."
"Research has established William Taylor was born in 1884 in the Newton Heath area of Manchester, the eldest child of George Taylor and Mary Ellen Cheetham. His wife was called Maud and they had a son called Albert...."
"It is thought he had a brother called John who lived in Blackley, Manchester, and got married in 1912. He had two sons - Frank who died in 1992 in Bolton, and Albert.
"Researchers think Frank's son David Alan Taylor may be living in Oldham."
Photos and the rest of the story can be found at
Was he your ancestor? If so, let us know how you get on with this.
Thanks very much for that, Barrie. I wasn't aware of that website. After a little exploration, I see they also have a "Are you looking for an ancestor?" page with some interesting links, such as one to their own "Glossary of trades and occupations" and pages of various occupations.
Very interesting reading.
I guess you're the only subscriber to the list with knowledge of free resources. ;-)
Barrie Sharples <bsharpone(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>I am sure you know that many university websites sometimes have useful free databases, and more are digitising some of their resources, how about Warwick's website which offers some interesting items.
>One of which I found helpful a couple of times is the returns of the Friendly Society of Operative Stonemasons:
>This leads to a good surname search to the obituaries or death notices contained in the fortnightly returns of the Friendly Society of Operative Stonemasons of England, Ireland and Wales between July 1836-April 1921. The index contains over 25,000 entries and includes some additional information relating to applications for superannuation, accident benefit, etc.
>The obituaries usually covered members who had joined the union's funeral fund, and who would therefore have received a sum of money from the union towards their burial. The deaths of wives and (after July 1862) children registered with the fund are also included. Information given in the fortnightly returns may include the age, place of death or member's branch, and date and cause of death. It has proved useful for at least three of my Lancashire masons.
I am sure you know that many university websites sometimes have useful free databases, and more are digitising some of their resources, how about Warwick's website which offers some interesting items.
One of which I found helpful a couple of times is the returns of the Friendly Society of Operative Stonemasons:
This leads to a good surname search to the obituaries or death notices contained in the fortnightly returns of the Friendly Society of Operative Stonemasons of England, Ireland and Wales between July 1836-April 1921. The index contains over 25,000 entries and includes some additional information relating to applications for superannuation, accident benefit, etc.
The obituaries usually covered members who had joined the union's funeral fund, and who would therefore have received a sum of money from the union towards their burial. The deaths of wives and (after July 1862) children registered with the fund are also included. Information given in the fortnightly returns may include the age, place of death or member's branch, and date and cause of death. It has proved useful for at least three of my Lancashire masons.
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