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You asked about a week ago
> Please what is Scoles House and where is it at?
> The records for Scoles House 1700 1790 are on microfilm at Preston
and I cannot remember seeing a reply. You do not tell us what your
The usual form of the name is SCHOLES. It can be a surname, and also a
forename as in Scholes SCHOLES. As a surname, it is fairly common in the
As a place name, there are two areas of Lancashire known by this name, one
now a suburb of Wigan, and the other just outside Prescot.
The one outside Prescot was/is referred to variously as Scholes Hall, The
Scholes, and simply Scholes, so this may be the premises to which you refer.
In 1728, Fr. William Molyneux SJ took up residence there with his sisters
and established a chapel on the ground floor. He became Viscount Molyneux in
1752, but did not assume the title. This mission was served by the Jesuits
until 1790 when a new church was opened at Portico about two miles from
Prescot. There is a pre-1939 photo of Scholes opposite p. 104 in "Old
Catholic Lancashire, Vol. III" by Dom F.O. Blundell OSB, pub. by Burns,
Oates & Washbourne Ltd., London, 1941. This book also has a short account of
If this is the object of your search, then "Catholic Missions and Registers
1700 - 1880, Volume 5, North West England" compiled and published by M.
Gandy, 2nd Edition, 1998 (ISBN 0 9528879 2 4) indicates that the Baptism
Register for Scholes has been deposited in the Lancashire Record Office
(LRO) in Preston and that there are (1998) no published copies. This may be
what is to be seen on microfilm at the LRO.
Hope this helps
Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.)
Many thanks Maureen and a Happy New Year to you to.
From: Maureen [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: 30 December 2005 21:43
Subject: Re: [LAN] 11851 lookup KELLY
3 Albert Street, Manchester
Daniel L Kelly, H, M, 32, Smith Employs 3 hands, Elland. Yorkshire
Ann, Wife, M, 28, Manchester
Harriet L, Daur, 9, Manchester
Sarah, Daur, 5, Manchester
Jane A, Daur, 1, Manchester
Happy New Year,
> Would someone with access to the 1851 census please have a look for Daniel
> KELLY born 1819 Yorkshire living in Lancashire, with wife Ann born
> Daughter Harriet Lee KELLY born Manchester.
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I'm not sure how I can get certain info and need your help. I have
christening records on my ggggrandfather James Hulme from St mary's church,
Oldham England. I have the date he was christened in 1811 but don't have
his date of birth. I can't exactly identify his date of death but I do know
he died between 1851 and 1861. He's not in the 1861 census records-at least
I couldn't find him. His christening record identifies his parents as
Thomas and Hannah. They have 3 other children: William, Sarah and Thomas.
They were all born within 2 years of each other or so .so I can't use the
Civil Registration. HELP!! =-)
Thank you very much for the reply to my query......
Its not the surname its the place we were looking to find out about but
rather the place name which I think is the one just outside Prescot
The object of my search was from a email that cousin sent me
Scoles House records 1700 to 1790 being at L.R.O. I have been in the
Finding Folk Book which lists all the records of the Parish's of
Lancashire and I have not come a cross a Scoles House before have you
head of it before
So its looking like you hit the nail on the head with the info you sent
and now I can send the info over to cousin and let him go from there .
Thank you very much for reading my query and your reply.....
Have a safe and good New Years
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Cooper" <Wordswild(a)worldnet.att.net>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: [LAN] Any chance of a lookup at Elton, All Saints
You asked about a marriage
> registered in the Sep quarter of 1870 between James NUTTALL and Elizabeth
> Ann ASHTON and according to the LanBMD, took place at All Saint's Church,
I have some details from this church. They show that in 1870
James Nuttall, 26, Bachelor, Warper, of Elton, son of Thomas Nuttall,
Quarryman, married Elizabeth Ann Ashton, 26, Spinster, of Radcliffe,
daughter of James Ashton, Carter.
The details I have do not include details of the witnesses. To find these I
think that you will need to have some one check the original register, or
buy a certified copy of the certificate from the Registrar. According to
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/libraries/arls/registers/index.htm the original
register has been deposited in the Diocesan Archive in the Archive and Local
Studies Unit of Manchester Central Library and has not yet been microfilmed.
It would have to be requested specially and brought out to the searcher. I
don't know what look-up facilities the ARLS offers to people from afar,
though there may be information on the website. To obtain a certified copy
from the registrar, complete the order form on LanacshireBMD which is
produced when you click on the reference CE11/2/381 on the list and follow
the instructions. I think it is possible to use a credit card, but you may
have to TALK to them - you could try e-mailing first to get round the time
Hope this helps
Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.)
Would someone with access to the 1851 census please have a look for Daniel L
KELLY born 1819 Yorkshire living in Lancashire, with wife Ann born Salford?
Daughter Harriet Lee KELLY born Manchester.
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Regards and Happy New Year,
On a previous email -
DERBYS. Bingham, Castick, Garlick, Jackson.
LANCS. Brunton, Castick, Cross, Higham, Jackson, Loynd, Sandham,
I noticed on one of your emails that you are researching the Jackson family
in Lancashire. I also have a connection to Jacksons there. Mine are in
Haydock - my g grandmother was Ada Jackson b. 1862 in Haydock, her parents
were John b. 1810 and Mary(Fairhurst) b. 1820 in Haydock. John and Mary
Jackson had 7 children - Thomas JACKSON (b.1842), James JACKSON (b.1844),
John JACKSON, b.1847, Edwin JACKSON (b.1851), Mary Emily JACKSON
(b.1857), Elizabeth JACKSON (b.1860) and my g grandmother Ada JACKSON
(b.1862) . Do you have any connection to this family? Other than John
JACKSON's parents name of Thomas and Betty (Cole) JACKSON, this is all I
know of this family.
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Forwarded on behalf of jean rostron <jean.rostron(a)ntlworld.com>
-------- Original Message --------
Mary Holt, married Samuel Hardman,( no date of marriage).
In 1871 census, Mary was living at 3 Heywoods Hollow, Bolton, along with
other members including Edmund Holt,
stated as wife's father.
Mary is still on later censuses living at same address, but different
Looking at other names for this address,I think the family may have
taken Heywoods Hollow over lol.
My grandmother was also born there,I have her birth certificate.
I personally know where this is,there is still a couple of houses there.
Mary may have already have married Samuel by 1851, senior moment, just
realised I haven't tried to find her under Hardman!!!!!!
Help, the dementia must be stting in. haha!
Ann Cooper wrote:
> My Thomas Nuttall has been a problem . . . a clogger before he married,
> a clogger in 1851, a farmer when his daughter married . . . and,
> possibly, a gold miner?! (on his widow's death certificate in 1908).
> Either he's all over the show, or my research is!
One definition of "clogger" (see http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/c2.html)
involves mines, as does (naturally) your "gold miner" reference; the
"quarryman" reference Jim found for you would definitely be in a related
field. So, your only real inconsistent entry is "farmer," and it's not
that inconsistent -- maybe he had a bit of land (family farm? maybe he
inherited it?) as well as worked in the mines. (Not necessarily at the
Here's hoping you can reconcile the occupations, or separate out the
Hi Betty & Maureen,
Thanks for your message. I just sent E-Mail to Burnley Library re: Ellis
Nutter/Sally Ashworth marriage. Now I keep my fingers crossed. This is the
first time I wrote to a library, so it is all new to me. I appreciate your
Best wishes for the New Year!
New England USA
I have asked previously for an 1861 census of the same family if this seems familiar
Could someone with access to the 1851 census look-up for John and Mary RABY ln Poulton-le-Sands, Mary was born abt 1820 in Kellet
I have found a Thomas and Ann Ward in the parish of Gressingham 1851. Would
it be possible for someone with access to the 1841 to see if they are at the
same place and if so, with whom?
Thanks a million
> > Hi Glen
> > I have just found this family as boarders in West Derby I can send
> you the
> > census image off list if they are yours
> > Regards
> > Sue
> > View Record Tipton, George abt 1847 Shrewsbury Boarder Great
> > Lancashire
> > View Record Tipton, Mary abt 1855 Wolverhampton Boarder Great
> > Lancashire
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Glen Alderson" <gtalderson(a)shaw.ca>
> > To: <LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:42 PM
> > Subject: [LAN] 1891 Census Everton- Tipton Family
> > >I have just received a birth certificate for a Rose Ann TIPTON. Rose
> > >was born at 56 Richmond Fair Everton 14 Aug 1886. Parents are George
> > >and Mary CAMPBELL. I have been looking for this family in the 1891
> > >for some time but have not been able to locate them. Would SKS
> please have
> > >a look and see if they can locate this family. The mother Mary died
> in the
> > >Infirmary Mill Road on 9 Feb 1898.
> > > Glen Alderson
> > > Calgary Alberta
> > >
> > >
I'm looking for the marriage of Thomas Ward to Mary? circa 1820-24. He was
born in Gressingham, she in Arkholme, first child baptised Holy Trinity,
Bolton Le Sands possibly living in Slyne With Hest. If anyone has any clues
I'd be very grateful.
I found a marriage listed that may be the one I'm interested in. It was
registered in the Sep quarter of 1870 between James NUTTALL and Elizabeth
Ann ASHTON and according to the LanBMD, took place at All Saint's Church,
I wonder, if anyone has access to these church records, if I could beg the
favor of a lookup to see if fathers or witnesses are mentioned.
Hoping to tie this in with a difficult family line.
Ann in Colorado