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Iam looking for relatives with the surname of Rowson.
This family originated from Shrewsbury with Edmund and Annis
nee Gittins. They headed for Manchester in the early 1800s with
6 children :- Edmund ( my gg grandfather), Joseph, Charles, John,
James and Elizabeth.
Edmund jnr married Mary Anne Brown ( they stayed in M/c ),had
3 sons :- William, James, and Frederick. James ( my g grandfather )
married Mary Batley, their children were :- Edmund, William, Annis,
Percy, Ewart (my grandfather), and Harold.
James Ewart married Gladys Mitchell from Stoke and they had 8
children :- Donald (deceased), Sybil (NZ), Joan, Dennis (my father),
Marcia, James, Alex and Roland.
If any Rowsons or rellies read this we'd be pleased to hear from them.
Thanks, Don Rowson.
I have just received a copy of a marriage certificate for Edward Klaus and
Sophia Stanley 22 November 1869. At the time of the birth of their son
Stanley. September 1870, they were living at 'Firs Hall', which I believe is
just off Manchester Road, Failsworth.
Could anyone at all check the 1871 Census for that address, since I really
would like to find out Edward's age and place of birth. The marriage
certificate only said that he was of full age.
It looks like the clerk did categorise pedestrians as performers (perfr),
presumably because of their exhibition races and so on.
Interesting! As you say always worth going the extra distance (pun
intended!) to see the original records.
Researching ELLISON, PETERS, GREENHALGH, FINDLEY, PLANTON/PLANTAIN, HOLME,
ATHERTON, LEE, BARBER, DIGGLE in Ince, Hindley, Wigan, Leigh and other parts
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Shearan [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 06:21
> To: LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [LAN] Pedestrian - original census entry
> An important fact came to light yesterday, regarding
> transcriptions. On looking at the 'original' 1881
> census return yesterday, I could see that what appears
> on the CDROM & the Mormon edition gives a slightly
> false reading. That entry states 'Pedestrian (Perfr)'
> as if that was what had been originally entered.
> However, the fact that the census returns were the
> basis for a statistical exercise meant that there had
> to be some standardisation of occupational terms; and
> it is often the case that when the returns reached
> 'head office' the clerks added comments for that
> reason. The annotation '(Perfr)' has been added to the
> entry - but in fact it precedes the word 'Pedestrian'!
> It really goes to show that one should always go back
> to the original documents. Incidentally the other
> entries have NOT had anything added in that way - a
> different clerk perhaps?
> Peter Shearan
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West Lancashire Railway ran from its own station on Fishergate hill downhill
of the present railway station. Line went almost immediately onto its bridge
over the river then forked right towards Southport and left to pass under
the London & North Western Railway main line and then forked again to join
the East Lancashire Railway's line facing south towards Liverpool and
Blackburn and north facing towards the East Lancashire Rly side of the
There are two large railway bridges across the river carrying the multiple
tracks of the present main line railway, the older one of stone construction
and widened since its building and the later (more westerly) one of steel
To the east (upstream side) of these bridges is the East Lancashire
Railway's bridge which was once much longer being extended on the south bank
of the river by a long wooden (?) viaduct long since covered over and turned
into an embankment.
Upstream of that is the oldest of the railway bridges, the one that carried
the tramway that connected the two separated parts of the Lancaster Canal
the northern half of which ran from just north of Fishergate via Lancaster
to Kendal with a branch from Galgate to Glasson Dock while the southern part
ran from south of the Ribble to just past the top of Wigan locks. The
section that is still there of the southern section, from Johnson's Hillock
to Wigan top lock is now part of the line of the Leeds and Liverpool Canal.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: [LAN] off topic - bridges in preston, lancs
> Sorry for the off topic post but was wondering if anyone has any info
> relating to bridges over the River Ribble in Preston? Or the West Lancs
> Railway Line?
Hi To All, I would like to thank Carrie, Karen, Chris, Vern and Sharon for the help given to me on the GRO Indexes. I know where they are now!!!
I have thanked nine people to-night, on three different e-mails that is, for the help that I have been given. Things like this, always renew my faith in human nature. Many thanks again. Pauline.
I have just found another reference to Bell Green in Rochdale which probably
explains this entry on Certificates.
In the book "Robertsons Guide to Rochdale" printed in 1876 there are
descriptions of churches around the Town .
In his description of "St. Johns Catholic Church, Ann St." Robertson writes,
"Attached to the convent is a handsome plot of land, known as Bellegreen,
and measuring two acres in extent."
Hope this helps
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rouse" <Lancsgen(a)timewarp.demon.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [LAN] Where is Bell Green, Rochdale, please?
> In message <005301c30da4$35379aa0$24996251@Lonergan>, David Lonergan
> <lonny1(a)ntlworld.com> writes
> >Hi Denyse
> >I also have marriage certificates with, "RC Chapel Bell Green" and
> >I have never been able to find out why it is called this
> Wasn't there a Bull Green in Rochdale, or am I thinking of somewhere
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On the 1861 Census my gggrandfather listed his occupation as a Machine
Broker and Commission Agent. Can somebody give me any ideas as to what
this occupation might have entailed.
Thank you in advance,
I was wondering if SKS could possibly do a look up on the 1841 Census
for the following address:
86 Ormond Street, Chorlton Upon Medlock, Lancaster.
I have been given this address on a birth certificate I have ordered. I
am hoping to find the BRADSHAW family living there.
Scanning through the parish records of St. Mary's Dean I have found a number
of HATTON individuals who resided in Westhoughton in the 18th century. I am
assuming that W.H. was small enough to strongly suggest that the resident
HATTONs were likely closely related. The lack of relationships in most of
the entries, however, makes it difficult to establish family units. I have
listed below those family units that make sense to me and also the entries I
cannot connect. I am hoping that there is a HATTON researcher on the list
who might be able to fill in the blanks or, at least, correct any errors
Henry HATTON burial 8 Mar 1709
- son John bapt 11 Apr 1694
- son Thomas bapt 2 Jun 1703, married Elizabeth BOOTH on 21 Feb 1720 and
produced three children:
- Alice bapt 11 Jun 1733
- Henry bapt 19 Jun 1737
- Susan bapt 3 Dec 1743
- son Henry DOB unknown but burial 26 Aug 1727
Henry HATTON married Ann SMITH 10 Aug 1749 ( a grandson of first Henry?)
Thomas HATTON (possibly son of Thomas cited above) married Ann WILD 29 Aug
- daughter Ann bapt 25 Jul 1744
- son William bapt 11 Jun 1747
- daughter Betty bapt 1 Oct 1748
Another group that I can't connect to the others are:
James HATTON married Mary GREEN 2 Feb 1726
- daughter Ann, bapt 7 Jul 1734, died before 1746 (?)
- son James, bapt 25 Jun 1739
- son Gerrard, bapt 11 Aug 1742
- daughter Alice, bapt 5 Nov 1744
- daughter Ann, bapt 1 Mar 1746 (a ringer belonging to another father by
the name of James?)
- son John, bapt 12 feb 1748
And a last unconnected individual: Alice HATTON buried 13 Oct 1729
As mentioned, all of the above individuals resided in the village of
I would appreciate any input, advice, corrections that may come my way.
(logging in from Toronto, Ontario, Canada and going through life like a
porcupine in a room full of balloons.)
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I have recently acquired the marriage certificate of my great great grandparents, John DUCKWORTH and Sarah CALVERLY. They were married in Bury, Lancashire on 20/12/1850. Their residence was King street, Bury . John DUCKWORTH was a bricklayer; his father was James DUCKWORTH, who was a Printer. Is their a way I can check on the residents living in King street in 1850?
Sarah's father's name was Thomas CALVERY and he was a Mechanic. On the marriage certificate John's age is 26 and Sarah's age is 20. Sarah died in Adelaide, South Australia on 20/9/1872 and on the death certificate her age is 39. Therefore she was either born in 1930 or 1833. John and Sarah migrated to Adelaide in South Australia some time between 1850 and 1855, because their first born, Thomas DUCKWORTH was born on 22/12/1855. Can SKS help me in locating Sarah's birth details, because I have tried several websites without any luck.
I think I have found John's birth: He was born on 27/2/1825 and Christened on 27/3/1825 at St Mary's in Bury. His mother's name was Betty, which I suppose is an abbreviation for Elizabeth. Has anyone information on this branch of the DUCKWORTH family.
I have located a Thomas CALVERY, who is 78 years of age, in the 1881 census, living at 4 Ogden Terr, Newton in Ashton Under Lyme, Cheshire. His wife is Elizabeth CALVERY aged 31 and a daughter aged 18 called Martha WHITEHEAD (was she Elizabeth's daughter from a previous marriage?) Thomas and Elizabeth were both born in W. Riding, York, whereas Martha was born in Newton, Cheshire. Thomas is about the right age to be Sarah's father, but Elizabeth is definitely not her mother. Has anyone information on this branch of the CALVERY family.
Tom DUCKWORTH, NSW, Australia.
I need to get a birth cert from a birth registered in Sutton in Ashfield
1973, but having looked on the net they are not obtainable from;
County Council Offices
St Johns Street
Am I worry or is it I have to send to somewhere else??
aka John Russell
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I managed to unsubscribe from most lists shortly before my last computer lay down and died...........which means that I will have missed an awful lot of postings. Now I have a new computer and thought I'd put my research names on the list, again........
Glad to receive or share any information on these names.
Hi again everyone,
I was christened in St. Matthews Church, Bolton. My parents were married there, and my grandparents were married there. I know that the church has since been pulled down, but that's all that I know.
Can anyone tell me whereabouts St. Matthews was?
And can anyone tell me where I could get a photograph of the church? Is there a website that would have a photo, and some facts about the church?
I have a feeling this is near Todmorden - which means the West Riding list
might be able to help you.
I've never worked out this Todmorden thing - that sometimes it's in
Lancashire and sometimes it's in Lancashire. I think it depends on whether
there's an 'r' in the month!!
(PS geography is a mystery to me - Husband will not permit me to navigate
since I did that girly thing of turning the map round and sent him in the
opposite direction - which I thought was rather a good move since I don't
have to mapread anymnore; I can sit and do the crossword instead ;-)))
The "B" stands for bachelor and the "S" for spinster - i.e. neither of them
were married before. The "full" just means they were over 21.
Hope that helps
David in Hertford, England
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue" <scummings31(a)cogeco.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: [LAN] Help reading marriage info
> Hello Listers:
> A very wonderful person, Brenda from Barrowford, looked up and sent me
some marriage info about one of relatives. Beside the groom's name, it
states: full B Farmer. Beside the bride's name it states: full S. I
believe the S stands for 'single'. Could SKS let me know what the 'B'
stands for? Thanks in advance.
> Kind Regards,
> Sue in Sarnia,
> Ontario, Canada
> Home of Mike Weir - 2003 Masters Champion
> Searching for:
> SCOTT in Penrith, Cumberland
> SCOTT in Nelson/Colne, Lancashire
> RATCLIFFE in Nelson/Colne, Lancashire
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Anyone with census index info for 1851 for Ardwick.
Address Ardwick Place or No 28 Higher Ardwick
MOTT family Charles, Mary, Amelia, Marina, Fanny, Charles (son), Isabel
Looking for info on William Henry NADIN who married Fanny MOTT in 1858 in
Also John HOLMES who married Isabel MOTT in 1859 in Manchester.
Amelia MOTT married John Richard MORRIS and he was involved in a firm
called CROOKE,MORRIS and HOLMES. I don't know if the Holmes in this firm is
the John Holmes who married Isabel Mott.
I have discovered that this firm were 'packers and makers-up' - what
exactly does this mean. 1863 and 1864 directory entries site them at 31
Dale St.and 5 Newton St. Is this two different sites ? If anyone has access
to directories at this time can they locate this firm and see if there is
reference to Mr Holmes ie. confirm that it is a John Holmes.
Does anyone have 1861 census info for Ardwick. Seeking John Richard MORRIS
and family living at 43 Shakespeare St, Ardwick or is that Chorlton on