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I have the date of the Inquest into my great great grandmothers death, and
wondered if there would be any documentation anywhere referring to it, and
if so, where ?
It was the 17th December 1889 - Coroner Clarke Aspinall for Liverpool.
If anyone could be of any help I would be most grateful!
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Hi Have you mislaid a Reuben OGDEN from your Lancashire family? My 4xG
Grandparents were Reuben Ogden and Mary nee Earnshaw. He arrived in West
Yorkshire, the township of Clayton in the parish of High Hoyland at some
point before 1777, when he and Mary married there. He worked as a weaver.
Mary may have grown up in that area, but I have found no record of any Ogden
there for the previous 100 years. I have lots of information about their
descendants, but cannot pin down Reuben's origins. I suspect he may have
come from Lancashire, which seems to have a proponderance of Ogdens.
If you have any mention of Reuben in your notes, I'd be glad to hear of it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Phia Castillo <phia.c(a)virgin.net>
To: Robert Marchington <marchington(a)cableinet.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: [LAN] GORTON
> How strange Rob,
> I was just looking through my Archives for details of how to order the1881
> C.D's for someone who had inquired on the list and while there I came
> the GORTON web-site, http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/david.ratcliffe/lhg/
> which I haven't read for a time.
> I looked at it again for a while........
> When I went back to the LAN list , what was there?
> Two new messages;
> A lister asking about the name 'COSTELLO', a name which I have been
> ( my grandmothers sister was married to Jack COSTELLO).....
> ........and your message recommending the GORTON site which is an area
> to my heart in my research, as that is where my mother was born, and I
> used it as a starting point,
> Is that coincidence or what?
> Kind Regards
> Researching: WILSON, LEONARD
Complete Set of 24 CD's £29.75 Item number 50169
Fax on 0121 789 7686 [from abroad +44 121 789 7686]
Telephone (from UK): 0121 784 9555
Name & Address
Credit Card Number
Credit Card Expiry Date
Issue Number (if using switch card)
Shipping Address if different from above.
Post Orders to :-
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
399 Garretts Green Lane
Cheques payable to 'The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints'
(Lucky I saved it )
I am now just starting on my wife's family tree and my question is are there
any HEYWOOD's or WROE's out there with a history of haemophilia in the
family (my wife's late father was a haemophiliac - his mother being the
This may help in tracing any ancestors!
SMITH - Heyside in Oldham
MARSH - Oldham
BARNES - Oldham, Derbyshire (Crich Carr)
CARNELL - Derbyshire (Litton, Tideswell & Darley)
HIGHLAND - Oldham, Liverpool, Birkenhead, Tranmere, Ireland, Anglesey
GLEAVE - Oldham, Levenshulme
KAY - Bury, Ashton, Oldham
GLEDHILL - Oldham?
STIRRUP - Oldham, Middleton, Heywood
WROE - Middleton
HEYWOOD - Middleton?
IRWIN - Middleton, India
Many many thanks to those of you who replied to my request for help finding
some present-day relatives. I will follow through with your suggestions and
see if I have any luck. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your advice!
You are a great list!
I found some relatives on this US land grant data base that is handy in
trying to locate some relatives when you don't know where they went:
There seems to be a lot of confusion about the Fylde. The word is simply a
very old spelling of 'field'. (And you wouldn't say 'Flied'!) Historically -
and rather vaguely - it refers to the flat land between the hills and the
sea, a very large number of fields! Actually everyone is right , even though
the County Council handbook states categorically that the Fylde is the area
between the Ribble and the Wyre. It is the council themselves who have
changed the designation. There is now Fylde Borough Council and Wyre Borough
Council. There is an MP for South Fylde, which is the area around and
including Lytham and St Annes besides the two MPs for Blackpool (North and
South). I see from the telephone book that 'Fylde' is also a popular name
for businesses which want to imply that they range over a wide area. 'Over
Wyre' is the area just north of the Wyre but of course it only makes sense
to people living south of the Wyre!
The area was not originally named like this at all. Probably 'Fylde' was
always popular rather than official usage and when looking for ancestors you
might even find the northern fringes of Preston described as in the Fylde.
The name is and was officially Amounderness.
Catherine Rothwell, a Lancashire historian, has produced lots of books of
old photos of Lancashire. The one on 'North Fylde' has 4 chapters, 1.
Poulton-le-Fylde, 2. Bispham, Thornton and Clevelys. 3. Fleetwood, and 4.
Across the River. In the last chapter you can see fascinating photos of
Knott End, Pilling, Hackensall, Stalmine, Preesall and so on. She is quite
unambiguous about it, referring to a farmer at Preesall as a 'North Fylde
farmer'. She also mentions a Fylde Country Museum on Woods Lane, Pilling!
Poulton-le-Fylde is and was an important centre of the Fylde but it was so
named to distinguish it from other places called Poulton, like
'Poulton-le-Sands'. They are 'Poulton in the Fylde' or 'Poulton on the
Sands' (i.e. Morecambe Bay). A similar naming is 'St Michael's-on-Wyre'
which saves confusion with other churches, in this case being the name of
the village as well.
Barbara, a frequent visitor to the Fylde.
I am a first generation Canadian and proud of it.I am also very proud that
my roots are in Britain.
To my British friends and relatives,I share in your sadness at the loss of
a great lady, Queen Mother.
My heartfelt sympathy to the Royal Family.
Following on from the discussion about local civil registration records and
GRO records ...
Does anyone know how the local records were compiled into a single quarterly
alphabetic index at GRO - what was the process? Can someone describe all
the steps from bride/bridegroom identifying themselves and signing names
through to records at GRO?
I presume that the process will include:
1. record is made at the church or registry office - hand-written
2. periodically the church/registry records are transcribed to record
(ordered by date) held by county registrar - hand-written
3. periodically, county records are copied by hand and sent to GRO
4. GRO records are compiled into a single alphabetic list, again
This is only a guess - do I have too many steps here? However many steps,
the scale of the task suggests it could be a highly prone to error.
Manually sorting all the quarterly records into a single alphabetic
hand-written list at GRO must have been a very long job. Surprising that
the GRO records do not contain more errors! I guess that the process is
computer-aided these days, but still lots of opportunity for error.
HULME from Pilsworth
BRIGGS from Padiham
GAUL from Liverpool and Manchester (Ardwick)
FAIRHURST from Manchester
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 4:48 PM
Subject: Help with Barrett
Am seeking confirmarion of a GEORGE BARRETT believed born Toxeth Park 21
Mar 1904. Just starting to trace my family whom I have lost all track since my evacuation in 1942, and hoping this George Barrett will be the start. If anyone can help I would sincerely appreciate it with any information off af said birth certificate.
Abbotsford B.C. Canada
*More Addresses below. *
This was on the 1881 Census :-
Dwelling: 1 Stonefield Terr
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341050 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0228 Folio 15 Page
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Harriett WOOD W 56 F Dereham, Norfolk, England
Occ: No Occupation
Alfred WOOD U 24 M Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Occ: Artist (Dyer)
Herbert WOOD U 22 M Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Walter WOOD U 20 M London City Of, London, Middlesex, England
Annie WOOD U 18 F London City Of, London, Middlesex, England
Occ: Professor Of Music
Seaison WOOD 15 F London City Of, London, Middlesex, England
Alice WOOD 12 F London City Of, London, Middlesex, England
Sarah LOMATH U 18 F London City Of, London, Middlesex, England
Occ: General Servant
If this was the family she was already a Widow.
Norman Buckley - Bury,Lancashire,England,U.K.
Basic Gen Site :- http://www.btinternet.com/~akhenaten/nbgenealogy.htm
Link to Colour Photos of Cheshire Churches./Lancs Reunion.
When Malcolm Borrowdale mentioned Tenterhooks in his message, I recalled my
mother (from Withnell & Darwen) who worked with her sister in the Darwen
cotton mills. A saying of hers was "He (or She) is on tenterhooks". Meaning
He or She was on edge or agitated over something. The dictionary here in
Australia states:- Tenter-A frame over which the cloth is stretched. A
minder of the machine.
Tenterhooks- Hooks from which the cloth is suspended.
So now I know what my mother meant when she said that I (that's me) was on
tenterhooks. I was in suspense most of my young days.
Harry Hamilton ( mlfhs 11261)
According to my list of Lancs parishes there are/were two St Ambrose
churches in Chorlton:
St Ambrose (Catholic), Princess Rd, Chorlton
St Ambrose (Protestant), Higher Chatham St, Chorlton-on-Medlock
Paul Rouet Winchester UK
From: joanhewitt <joanhewitt(a)tinyonline.co.uk>
To: LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com <LANCSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 31 January 2001 14:51
Subject: Re: [LAN] where is St Ambrose church
>> Hello Iain
>> Iain wrote: I have a marriage certificate dated 1885 in the Chorlton
>> District. Unfortunately the top line just states the following: "Marriage
>> solemnized at S. Ambrose Church in the Parish of S. Ambrose Church, in
>> County of Lancaster." I may have got the church name wrong as it is not
>> clear but it certainly looks like 'Ambrose'. >
>I may be remembering things wrong, but it seems to me that when I lived in
>Old Trafford many years ago, there was a St Ambrose church on Ayres Road,
>Old Trafford, and that would fit in better with the Chorlton Registration
>District, wouldn't it?
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