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Hello Lancsgen members,
On Christmas Day I made a statement about Dilmond POSTLETHWAITE's forthcoming book in which I stated the following:
"Hello all POSTLETHWAITE researchers,
I have just received the attached from Sue BANKS. Sue and I have been approached by Dilmond POSTLETHWAITE in the past for information, which we have both supplied in good faith. It now appears that Dilmond was only interested in our information for profit. We both supplied info with no response whatsoever from Dilmond.
I would suggest that in future none of us should supply him with any information whatsoever. I do not mind providing anyone with information which will help them with their trees, as a lot of you will know, but I object, most strongly, to providing somebody with information which I have worked hard for, for their profit. I am in debt up to my eyeballs and am struggling to make ends meet, this man is attempting to profit by our hard work, which we supplied in good faith. I have no objection to people making money, but if they wish to do so they should work for it!
But, what really upsets me, is that I introduced Susan to this man in good faith, thinking that it would help Susan and I. He deceived me and through me he deceived Susan! Susan, I am sorry.
This is the wrong time of year for this, but I am angry."
I have been assured by Dilmond POSTLETHWAITE that if I am not descended from John POSTLETHWAITE of Millom Cumberland
who went to the U.S. and settled in Lancaster, PA in the early 1700s, then the information that I supplied him with is not included in the book. I assured him that if he would tell me that my material was not included in his book, then I would issue a retraction.
As Mr. POSTLETHWAITE has done that, I hereby unreservedly retract the above quoted statement and apologise to him for any slight or hurt that he may have suffered by my statement. I have included the previous message within this message purely as a reference for this statement of retraction to have meaning and not to cause him any hurt.
Nicolas Blackhurst, in Chester (The Roman Fortress of Deva),
Web Site: http://freespace.virgin.net/nicolas.blackhurst/homepage.htm
Greetings One & All and a Very Very Happy New Year
If anyone is out & about and can help I would be most grateful. I believe
that the John HOLDING identified as the son of Ann is my Great Grandfather
John Henry HOLDING later to marry Sarah Ann LEYLAND in Bolton and have a son
Emmanuel in 1890. I have no access to the 1891 census or the 1871 census at
the local FHS to verify my suspicions.
1. MARY A.1 HOLDING ( I believe her to be a widow at this point, maiden name
unknown ) was born Abt. 1840 in Bolton, Lancs. England (Source: 1881 Census,
Folio 31 page 1.).
Profession: 1881, factory Operator
Children of MARY A. HOLDING are:
i. JAMES2 HOLDING, b. Abt. 1862, Bolton, Lancs. England (Source: 1881
Profession: 1881, Factory Operator
ii. JOHN HOLDING, b. Abt. 1868, Bolton, Lancs. England (Source: 1881
Profession: 1881, Factory Operator
iii. WALTER HOLDING, b. Abt. 1870, Bolton, Lancs. England (Source: 1881
Profession: 1881, Scholar ( student )
iv. WILLIAM HOLDING, b. Abt. 1874, Bolton, Lancs. England (Source: 1881
Profession: 1881, Scholar ( student )
Any and all info or suggestions welcomed.
In wet & rainy Redmond ( Seattle area )
Looking for information/links on the family (from Bardsley) of
Thomas Mills/Jennie Brindle m.Apr.1814 and their offspring
Samuel was a schoolmaster and married Mary ? also of Bardsley.
Happy New Year everyone. Yes I'm a new member...one of those who got a new
Family Tree software package for Christmas!
I live in Melbourne, Australia and am researching the following of my
COMER, and OATES from the Little Hulton/ Walkden area.
If anyone is able to obtain information from the 1891 census for the address
of...23 SOUTHERN STREET, LITTLE HULTON, I would be most greatful.
Also interested in the
HESFORD, CROSS, LEATHER and BANNISTER families of the Leigh, Pennington,
Other non-Lancs interests include the CHILDS, BARNES, WARSOP and WILCOCK
families of the Nottingham area.
Thanking you, Chris Childs
Wishing everyone a Happy New Year and hope that all of you have a great one
in the last year of this century. Talk about history in the making, eh?
As I write this our friends in Australia, China, Hong Kong and New Zealand
would have already welcomed in the New Year and in just a few hours our
friends in Europe will do the same. As for us Canadians, Americans and
Mexicans we still have 6 1/2 hours to go yet.
Have a good one, everyone and I'll see ya next year.
A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR TO ALL.
Would it be possible for anyone searching the records of St. Ann's Church
1730+ to check for James SHAWCROSS c1734/5. Any info greatly appreciated.
Gordon Shawcross, Abbotsford, B.C., Canada
The following from an article by Rick Roberts in 'The Global Gazette', May
15, 1998. This Gazette is Canada'a Genealogy & Heritage On-Line
"Have you ever used the 1871, 1881, 1891 or 1901 census records in your
quest to find ancestors in various parts of Canada? Statistics Canada has
decided that the 1901 census is the LAST one which will be made public.
The 1911 census, which normally would have been released to the public in
2003, WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE TO RESEARCHERS. This same ruling applies to
all subsequent records held by Statistics Canada.
This issue has been the subject of much recent dialogue between officials
of the National Archives and Statistics Canada. What normally would
happen, is that the 1911 census records would be microfilmed and
transferred to the National Archives of Canada, held by them until the
expiration of 92 years following the census year (2003) and then released
to the public. The 92 year rule was established by the government in the
regulation made persuent to the Privacy Act. It permits the release od
census records but only after they have been deposited in the National
Archives. It was on this basis that the 1891 and 1901 census records were
released to the public.
Although the reasons are unclear, Statistics Canada's stand on this issue
may be partly due to a belief that a guarantee of confidentiality (even
beyond 92 years) will nake it easier to ensure co-operation during future
population enumerations. The office of the Privacy Commission was actually
pressing to have the 1911 census records destroyed! Fortunatly the
National Archivist refused to grant Statistics Canada its necessary
approval. Not to be outdone in its efforts to maintain the total secrecy
over the records, Statistics Canada has simply decided not to transfer its
records to the custody and control of the National Archives. By so doing,
the department has circumvented the 92 year rule prescribed by the
Regulations made persuent to the Privacy Act.
Be assured, there is nothing, absolutly nothing, different in the type of
information contained in the 1911 census from that shown in the 1891 and
1901 records which we have all seen. Granted, the rules under which the
1911 census were taken may have differed, but the basic information covered
is identical. So where is the invasion of privacynwhich is of so much
This decision has outraged the archival community, genealogists and our
historians, but to no avail. The 1911 census and all future census records
will remain closed . . . . unless . . .
What can you do? "
>From the above it can easily be seen that some strong action is required.
Here are some important e-mail addresses which I hope members of these
lists will write and raise particular heck. Aren't I mild mannered?
Dr. Ivan Felleqi e-mail <felleqi(a)statcan.ca>
120 Parkdale Ave.
Hon. John Manley, MP, e-mail <Manley.J(a)parl.gc.ca>
The Minister of Industry (to whom Statistics Canada reports)
The House of Commons,
Hon. Sheila Copps, MP, e-mail <Copps.S(a)parl.gc.ca
The minister of Heritage,
The House of Commons,
If you are living in Canada write your member of parliment as well.
If you are connected to historical societies or other genealogical groups,
pass the above information on to them and urge them to respond as well.
My unborn great great grandchildren thank you in advance for your support
in putting Canadian politicians and beurocrats in their place before the
end of this century. If what they propose/are doing can happen here, it
can happen anywhere.
Researching JOHNSON, FENWICK, in Lincolnshire
Researching NEWMAN, in London/Middlesex and Dorset
Researching GIBBS, SCHOLFIELD, EBERLETS in London/Middlesex
Researching STEPHENSONS in Lancashire
from Viking, AB, CA
Beryl Bass wrote:
> My mother, Alice Graves, grew up in Chorlton cum Hardy, Manchester. She
> always told me that her father used to send her to the square on the
> last day of the year to look for a man with as many noses as there were
> days in the year.
> Has anyone else heard of this?
Great minds think alike. I asked this on the trivia list this morning. :-)
I always used to hear this from my grandfather and father. My grandfather
was from Chorley.
I don't feel so alone now - nor strange for saying it to my own daughter and
grandson. I used to get some rather strange looks for it. ;-)
My mother, Alice Graves, grew up in Chorlton cum Hardy, Manchester. She
always told me that her father used to send her to the square on the
last day of the year to look for a man with as many noses as there were
days in the year.
Has anyone else heard of this?
I noticed quite a few people from Lancashire while doing research in the
MARRIAGE records of St. George's Anglican Church of Halifax, Nova Scotia,
Canada for the period 1909-1919. (Details supplied in the church records
depend on the time frame.) I hope someone will find their lost ancestors in
If you're interested in one of the entries below, I'll be able to add a few
details from my notes. After all the help I've received from people in
Lancashire, I hope this will help someone there.
May you find many more ancestors in 1999 !!
Bedford, Nova Scotia
BARRATT, Robert, soldier, RCR, of Miles Platting, Lancs
m. Edith KIDD, of London, England
BEGG, John Arthur of Liverpool
BOND, Agnes of Lancaster, England
BURTENSHAW, Ethel Edith (& written Edith Ethel also)
of Garston, Lancs
m. MOTT, Andrew (Tregenna?) of Birkenhead, Cheshire, RNR
JONES, David Henry of (All Saints) Manchester,
MOODY - see below
RILEY, William of Blackburn, age 23
(parents Wm and Eliza of Blackburn)
SAXON, Arthur of Stockport, age (25?)
(parents (Edward?) and Elizabeth of Stockport marr.
WHEATON, Hazel Anna, age 19
(parents John J.? and T.?) of Liverpool
SIMPSON, Wm. (Edward?), age 24, of Manchester
(parents:also Wm. Edward and Mary Jane of Manchester)
WATSON, Martin Bertram of Manchester marr.
MOODY, Annie Mary of Manchester
I havn't received any messages from the Manchester and Lancashire Family
(mlfhs(a)sentinel.mcc.ac.uk) for over two days now. Has any member of this
list had similar problems or have I been struck off?
Happy New Year to all,
I am trying to find references to Arthur Hargreaves BARNES b. 23 June 1887
& May LINGARD b. 04 May 1890 supposedly in Blackburn, Lanc. I was not able
to find either of their births on the Birth Index for England & wonder if
anyone searching through the 1891 census for Blackburn or surrounding areas
(maybe Haslingden) could keep an eye open for them. Any other advise on
where to look would be appreciated...... they are not shown on the LDS-BVR
Margaret Buyar - Maple Ridge, B.C. Canada
Just to wish everybody a wonderful new year, hope every one is well, and
not partying too much tonight, as you know, the last year of the century
is approaching rapidly.
Thank you to all kind souls who helped me in the past year with my
successfull genealogy research.
All the best
Melanie, Louis, Amber and Aidan
Happy New Year .
Seems a good time to repost my interest in this area.
O'HAGAN, Annie born Manchester c 1855.
Moved to Taunton, Somerset in the 1870s.
Associated with BOWYER, HART and PARSONS.
May 1999 be a good year for you.
Moyra Jones nee PARSONS, Pencoed, S.Wales.
I'm looking for census information of the Nott families of Lancashire
counties from 1871 on. Any information would be appreciated.
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I know there are some very knowledgeable folks around, so perhaps one of you
can throw some light on this problem.
My grandfather, William SHAW (yes, I know there are hundreds!), was
allegedly born at Hurst Green, which I think, is or was in Lancashire, in or
about 1864, but the parish was in Yorkshire. It does not seem to be
mentioned in the IGI for either Yorks or Lancs. Can anyone suggest how I
might go about finding my "Fly-Billy SHAW", as he was known later.
Regards, and a very Happy New Year to everyone.
Cecilia in Essex, UK
Hunting for all SLEIGHTHOLM(E), LYTH, HOGGART, READMAN all in N.Yorks,
ANDERTON (Chorley), WHITESIDE (Blackburn, Chorley), MOOR (Chorley), CROSS,