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First of all, I want to wish all of you the best of holidays. It has
been wonderful to find all of you and to add you to my family. It has been a
most abundant year for that.
I want to tell all of you of my memories of an Owen County Christmas. I
was born and raised in Lexington, but on Christmas we always went "home".
After getting up very early and opening presents, it was time to get ready and
go to "Mama's". We would get dressed up for that 1 and a half hour drive.
Usually it was cold, but no snow to remember. I would be dressed up in my
coat and matching leggings. For those "kids" who don't remember, leggings
were long tight pants to match your coat that zipped up at the legs to keep
you warm. We would then drive to my grandmother's in Sparta. Then we would
go to my great aunt and uncle's out on Lewis Lane in Owen Co. The old house
had frame on the outside, but it was an old log house with a fireplace, pot
bellied stove, and in the kitchen a warm morning stove. There was enough food
to feed an army. And usually enough family to make up a small army. The
children were fed in the kitchen, to get them out of the way. Then the men
would all sit down and eat with the women feeding and visiting at the same
time. Then the women would eat after the men, usually sitting in their
husband's place. While the women ate, the men would discuss politics, farm
prices, and the usual "men talk". The women would sit for quite a while
discussing the children, latest fashions, and gossip. The kids (what few of
us there were) would be off and running "like wild Indians". Dishes were done
and the women would join the men. This was as much a tradition as Christmas.
When I was 12 we moved to Florida. It was very hard on me, to pick up
and leave all of the kids that I had known all of my life. I still keep in
touch with some of them.
But move, we did. When I was 14 we went home to Ky. for Christmas. When I
was asked what I wanted for Christmas, I told my parents that all I wanted was
to see it snow. I had never remembered seeing it snow for Christmas. You
should have heard what my Dad said!!!!! None of it repeatable on the net, to
say the least. After all, we had no snow tires or chains. No problem until
we got to Lexington. Then it started to snow. By the time we got halfway
between Frankfort and Owenton, you could hardly see. And guess who got the
blame for it? I think one of the most beautiful sites I remember was going
down the hills to go into Sparta when the old road was there. It was a
winding, twisting drive, but the trees were so heavy with snow that it looked
like an ice cave. It was beautiful. And I can see it as if it happened just
yesterday. I got to sleep by the fireplace the whole time we were there. And
the snow stayed on the ground the whole trip. And the family tradition of
dinner at my great aunt's continuted just as if we had never been gone.
Two years later my aunt, uncle, and grandmother moved to Florida. I have
not been back for a Christmas since. And all of the family except for my
aunt, mother, and the kids are gone. But there has never been a Christmas
that goes by that I don't relive in my mind and my heart the Christmases in
God Bless and Merry Christmas to us all.
Judy Estes Lawrence
SECOND KENTUCKY AFFECTIONATELY NICKNAMED THEM THEIR 'BULL PUPS'
"No gun is so well suited in all respects to the wants of our
cavalry, as these little guns," said Confederate General Basil
Duke of the mountain howitzers he utiliized, while riding with
General John Hunt Morgan's raids in the western theater.
These little cannons were light enough to be pulled rapidly on
raids with just one horse, or pushed for long distances on the
battlefield by just a few soldiiers. An added advantage, said
Duke, was that they produced "a great deal more noise than one
would expect from their size and appearance."
The men with Duke's Second Kentucky Cavalry were quite fond of
their two little guns, and affectionately nicknamed them their
> Winscott was a common variation of Wainscott and the name was often
> pronounced Winscott even in my day. Rebecca was a Roberts and her mother was
> Sally Smith, daughter of Joseph Smith. Sally later married Isaac C. Wainscott.
> Rebecca's father might have been Henley-she had a son named Henley Claxon.
Oh boy! Maybe you can help me straighten out my records. I have always
shown Callisthenes Claxon as having two wives, both named Rebecca:
Rebecca ROBERTS and Rebecca WINSCOTT. Various correspondants have
disagreed about the order of the two wives. Here is the way I have it:
First: Callisthenes married about 1806 to Rebecca ROBERTS, the daughter
of Henry ROBERTS and Sarah SMITH. Sarah was the daughter of Joseph
SMITH and Leannah. Sarah married (2) Isaac WINSCOTT. By his first
wife, Callisthenes had six children: Mariah, William, Malinda, Sarah,
James, John. These children were born over the 1806-1822 time period.
Second: Callisthenes married, in 1822, Rebecca WINSCOTT. An extract
from the Owen Co KY marriage register has "CLAXON, Callestiness to
Rebeccah Winscot, March 25, 1822. Bond: Isaac Winscott. Letter of
consent from Sally Winscot, mother of the bride. Married by Cornelius
Duvall." According to the Owen Co death records, Rebecca was age 48
when she died in 1854, making her birth in 1805/1806. She would have
been only 16 years old when she married Callisthenes, which is why she
needed the letter of consent from her mother (Callisthenes was 36 in
1822). With his second wife, Callisthenes had seven additional
children: Joseph, Charles, Nancy, Lucinda, Henly, Thomas, and Harrison.
These children were born over the 1823-1837 time period.
Can you provide any corrections to what I have above?
Thanks for your help.
I suspect "Winscott" may be a variant spelling of "Wainscott." If so,
perhaps you Wainscott researchers may know something of Rebeccah
WINSCOTT, b. c1806 Scott Co KY, d. 1854 Owen Co KY; married Callisthenes
CLAXON in 1822 Owen Co KY.
I would like to know who Rebeccah's parents were (I believe her mother
Merritt D. Mullen
Just yesterday I was helping out at a business function in Cincinnati, a
"Santa" station where the kids could come to talk to the "Man in Red". We
were enjoying the 71 degree weather, with kids in shorts, and motorcycles
and top-down convertibles going by. It seemed really dysfunctional to all
concerned, though none of us complained too loudly. I went around the yard
and found flowers on my forsythia bushes, and some marigold seeds have
actually sprouted in my garden due to the recent heat wave! But it brought
back memories of a newlywed couple sharing their first married Christmas in
Hawaii. We were stationed there for almost three years. One year we had to
call home and ask them to rush blankets over to us, as the temperature had
hit a record low of 56 degrees. None of the houses or apartments had
furnaces, and you could not buy blankets there.
Time goes by so quickly. My wife and I are about to celebrate our 25th
wedding anniversary, our oldest son graduated from college in June, and our
youngest son with his new drivers license drops by on occasion to let us
know he is still around.
I just wanted to say Merry Christmas from the new Lusby homestead in
Morningview, Kentucky, on the banks of the Licking River. It has been a
pleasure talking to my new-found cousins that I have discovered on the net,
and look forward to many more years of pleasant conversation and
serendipitous discoveries. May God bless all of you in your homes this
Bary and Chris Lusby
A great way to find just about any town in the US is to visit
http://maps.yahoo.com, or go to http://www.yahoo.com and click
on "maps" in the top banner.
Hope you find it!
Date forwarded: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:16:03 -0800 (PST)
Date sent: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:20:09 -0500
From: cay(a)cyberstreet.com (Carol Mann)
Send reply to: cay(a)cyberstreet.com
Subject: [KYOWEN-L] Bethany, KY
Forwarded by: KYOWEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Does anyone know where Bethany, KY is located? Is it in Owen County or
> perhaps Bath County. Still researching the Yarborough/Yarbrough family
> of Owen County as well as the Bell and Daniels family - any information
> would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Cay Yarbrough Mann
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Steven E. Cull
cull(a)i.am (relayed to steven.cull(a)pcs-inet.com)
Thanks to all of you nice folk who told me about Bethany - maybe that
will help me find my grandparents marriage records - one of the great
benefits of doing the family genealogy is the willingness of so many
people willing to help each other - Cay Yarbrough Mann
Does anyone know where Bethany, KY is located? Is it in Owen County or
perhaps Bath County. Still researching the Yarborough/Yarbrough family
of Owen County as well as the Bell and Daniels family - any information
would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Cay Yarbrough Mann
I grew up in Greenup Co., KY on a farm the first 10 years, then into
a small town.
One of the things I remember about Christmas was that the Christmas
tree had to be gotten, fully
decorated!!, out the door onto the lawn, on a sunny day, of course,
to take the picture for that year.
No indoor pictures in the dark ages.!! At least it didn't have to
be taken back in..............
I still have that box camera from when we cleaned out and sold
Mother's home. And the small set
(12" long) of eight plastic reindeer and a sleigh. I took great
pains to put in out each year as a child. Had
I only gotten one thing from the estate, that set would have been my
choice. Saw it in an antique store
not long ago----was worth a penny or two!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't remember at all what was cooked for the dinner, but do
remember the year our first turkey was
cooked..I was about 14-15 years old. As far as I know that was the
only one my Mother ever cooked.
Too much grease, she said. Mind you, we fried everything--in lard,
from the hog!!! But the turkey as
I don't think we ever went to a grandmother's house for Christmas
dinner -- but usually overnight at
...........................Wishing you the joy of Christmas
throughout the whole year....................
Phyllis Counts Raker, Cincinnati
Melanie, on your pension records would you look for KNOX, SHELTON,
THOMAS, ELLISTON, HOPKINS, HAYDON
Appreciate your doing the offer.............................Phyllis---
I just wanted to let you all know that I have an extensive pension records
file regarding Owen County Kentucky. Most of these names are not relatives of
mine so I felt that maybe one of you could be looking for this information. I
have about a hundred different names with their records. These records are
from the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. If anyone would like for me
to do a lookup for them just email me. I'll try to get it back to you in a
Merry Christmas! :)
Melanie Hammons Bishop
Hello Cousin Brian, Samuel COBB is my gggg grandfather. (Samuel COBB>Daniel
COBB>Frances "Frankie" COBB Clifton>Merritt CLIFTON>Fannie CLIFTON
McNeely>Clifton McNEELY who is my Dad>me)You have other cousins on this list,
too. Some are very involved with the COBB line and have done much more
research than me. I will be glad to share the info that I have on the COBB
line. I imagine you will be hearing from some other cousins, too.
Sheryl McNeely Shaw
Hello to everyone. I've enjoyed reading about everyone's families from Owen
County and figured it's probably time that I ask a question or two about my
My name is Brian Cobb and I am the grandson of Fred Cobb, whose father was
Vanden. I have been able to trace our lineage from Vanden to Cyrus to Asa to
Samuel Cobb who came from Charleston, SC after the Civil War and, as I
understand it, was one of the first settlers in Owen County in the late 1800's
and settled in/around Lusby's Mill (originally known as Cobb's Mill). Many
Cobbs are buried in the cemetery at Mussel Shoals Baptist Church.
I have been unable to find any information about Samuel's parents and have
been trying for the last several years to make that "leap across the ocean".
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best wishes to everyone for a Merry
Christmas and a healthy and happy New Year.
May God bless,
Brian K. Cobb
As a little boy growing up on a farm near Lusby Mill, it seemed an eternal
wait for Christmas morning and the excitement of seeing what presents had
been left under the Christmas tree.
Those presents have been long forgotten, but the enduring memory is that of
going out with Dad about a week before Christmas to find the perfect
Christmas tree for our home. We would search for hours and look at scores
of cedar trees to find one shaped just right and the correct height for our
living room. After we found and cut the tree, we would tie it to my Western
Flyer sleigh and pull it home. That sleigh was much easier to pull if there
was a snow on the ground.
I still remember the ornaments and the lights we used year after year, and
the aroma of cedar is the scent that I most associate with Christmas.
My other fond memories of Christmas are of the special desserts that my Mom
would prepare for us to eat at Christmastime and also the fellowship and
friendship of the community, especially at Lusby Mill Baptist Church.
Merry Christmas all!
I am posting this for the Ellis family they are members of our list but having
problems getting the message to the list Barbara
Barbara: I tryed to send this message three times. Had a problem with the
Dont know if any of them went out. Iam trying one more time. Forgive me if you
get this for the third time.
I think your idea of the group sending Xmas greetings is a great one.
has always been a very special time in our home in IN. With the passing
not many of us left but we still get together on Christmas eve, have some
food, open gifts and spend the evening together.
I would like to wish all in the group a very happy and MERRY CHRISTMAS from
the Ellis home in Gas City, IN
Kenneth L. Ellis
613 E, No B St.
Gas City, IN. 46933 ellisk(a)comteck.com
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Hi! I just wanted to share this with you. It was sent to me by one of my
Melanie Hammons Bishop
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This cute poem just came across on one of my lists...Thought you might enjoy
Genealogist's Christmas Eve (Twas the night before Christmas)
'Twas the night before Christmas
When all through the house
Not a creature was stirring,
Not even my spouse.
The dining room table with clutter was spread
With pedigree charts and with letters which said...
"Too bad about the data for which you wrote;
Sank in a storm on an ill-fated boat."
Stacks of old copies of wills and such
Were proof that my work had become too much.
Our children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of sugarplums danced in their heads.
And I at my table was ready to drop
>From work on my album with photos to crop.
Christmas was here, and such was my lot
That presents and goodies and toys I'd forgot.
Had I not been busy with grandparents' wills,
I'd not have forgotten to shop for such thrills,
While others bought gifts to bring Christmas cheers,
I'd spent time researching those birthdates and years.
While I was thus musing about my sad plight,
A strange noise on the lawn gave me such a great fright.
Away to the window I flew in a flash,
Tore open the drapes and yanked up the sash.
When what with my wondering eyes should appear,
But an overstuffed sleigh and eight small reindeer.
Up to the house top the reindeer they flew,
With a sleigh full of toys and 'ole Santa Claus, too.
And then in a twinkle, I heard on the roof
The prancing and pawing of thirty-two hoofs.
As I drew in my head, and bumped it on the sash,
Down the cold chimney fell Santa--KER-RASH!
"Dear" Santa had come from the roof in a wreck,
And tracked soot on the carpet, (I could wring his short neck!)
Spotting my face, good 'ole Santa could see
I had no Christmas spirit you'd have to agree.
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work
And filled all the stockings, (I felt like a jerk).
Here was Santa, who'd brought us such gladness and joy:
When I'd been too busy for even one toy.
He spied my research on the table all spread
"A genealogist!" He cried! (My face was all red!)
"Tonight I've met many like you," Santa grinned,
As he pulled from his sack a large book he had penned.
I gazed with amusement--the cover it read
Genealogy Lines for Which You Have Plead.
"I know what it's like as a genealogy bug."
He said as he gave me a great Santa hug.
"While the elves make the sleighful of toys I now carry,
I do some research in the North Pole Library!
A special treat I am thus able to bring,
To genealogy folk who can't find a thing."
"Now off you go to your bed for a rest,
I'll clean up the house from this genealogy mess."
As I climbed up the stairs full of gladness and glee,
I looked back at Santa who'd brought much to me.
While settling in bed, I heard Santa's clear whistle,
To his team, which then rose like the down of a thistle.
And I heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight,
"Family history is Fun! Merry Christmas! Goodnight!"
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My married name is Martin but not related to Martins of Kentucky.
My husband's family came to Indiana from Europe in 1856.
The lines that I am researching in Ky are my mother's lines.
Ruddell, Turner, Guill, Hutchinson, Collier, Burgess, Webber, Wilson
Tarleton, Bean, Mulherin, etc. including Owen, Grant, Gallatin,
Pendleton, Harrision, Scott, Fayette, Woodford, Bourbon, Campbell
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to All:
And thanks to those who responded to my query for Info. on ?? Morgan who
married my gggrandmother Sarah Roland. From some of your responses his
name may have been Amariah and he may have been a son of Lewis Morgan. I
still need documents and sources to prove this theory. Thanks To all
I live in Arizona so we have very little snow here for Christmas if
But I can remember Ohio Christmases that were white.
As a Child, if it snowed on Christmas I was sure that Santa would make
it to our house and really worried if it did not snow which it did not,
We cut our Christmas tree each year from our Farm - the old fashion
tree. Sticky! Most of the decorations were items that we kids made.
Then Christmas Day, three generations would get together for dinner and
of course eat to much. A Dinner made from scratch on a Kerosene Stove.
Hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas - Ann Martin
I am sorry if this query is old to you, but since I am new to the list,
I am sending it again.
I am looking for information on my family. Believed to have
originally been Hind. Variations of the name include HINDS [My current}
HIND / HINES / HYNES / HYND, etc.
My direct ancestory was in Beaver County, PA after the Revolution, but
may have been descendent from Chester, PA, -- Albemarle, Augusta Counties
in VA. Family members migrated through VA, PA, KY, TN, AL, AR, IN. Early
names were James, William, Thomas, John, Samuel.
At Beaver County, PA (Sewickley and N. Sewickley) John Hind -
Revolutionary War [fifer] John, jr., George, Peter, and Jacob. Also
Sampson and others.
Related families included PIERSOL and OLDHAM.
I would like to know what happened to the family and where descendents
now live. Also, where was Revolutionary War, John Hind burried.
I am Clif Hinds. Respond to me at my email: