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It seems we must have ancestors in common. Maybe you know the names of some
of the siblings of the people you posted information about.
Charles McDowell m. Katharina Soden. His parents are John McDowell and
Ellen Cody. Charles was born in 1816 and Katharina was born in 1820. They came
to the US in 1861 or so. The names of children (all born in Ireland) listed
on the 1880 NY Census are:
John b. 1844
Elizabeth 1846 These two names are on the census but a line drawn through
His older brother, Robert McDowell, b. 1812 married Eliza Bierne/Byrne. He
came to the US in 1841 and has an acct with the Irish Emigrant Savings Bank.
Bank records indicate that Robert McDowell was from Clonbroney, Longford. He
and Eliza had three children:
Robert b. 1852 Brooklyn, NY m. Sarah 'Sadie' Ann Freeman in 1886 Denver CO
Eliza b. 1853 in Michigan. I'm trying to figure this one out. /see below
Ellen b, 1859 in Brooklyn
How can I trace the families of the Irish parents? Ellen Cody McDowell was
still alive in 1854 when Robert opened his account with the bank but his
father was deceased.
Why would Eliza go to Michigan after she had a child in Brooklyn?
If they did go to Michigan she may have stayed there awhile because the next
and last child
is born in Brooklyn in 1859. Robert opened his Emigrant Bank Acct in 1854.
So he was back in Brooklyn.
Any help/advice gratefully accepted!
>From what I can tell, this is just Irish soda bread, but it came from my
gr-grandmother Lizzie Clarke Lyons of Longford.
Mix together in a pot
1 cup of water
1 cup of raisins
1/2 cup margerine, lard, or butter (it started with lard, we kind of changed
1 cup sugar
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
1/2 teaspoon cloves
Bring to a boil on the stove, turn down, let simmer for 20 minutes, then cool
for an hour or so. Add 1 beaten egg
2 scant cups of flour (I always assumed scant meant just barely :-)
1 teaspoon baking soda
dash of salt
Bake at 350 for about 45 minutes. I've always used a bundt or an angel food
pan, but my mother and grandmother used regular cake pans. It's very heavy, so
it cooked more evenly when I used my pans. Test with a toothpick in the
center, to make sure it's done.
Maria McDowell, daughter of Samuel McDowell, married James Howden at
St.John's C of I church, Clonbroney parish on Feb 25, 1890.
James Howden died in July 1893.
Maria subsequently married John Soden at St.John's C of I church, Clonbroney
parish on April 22, 1896.
I am related to the Howden family
I want to wish all our list members a very Happy Christmas. You are all Great!
And as usual I am looking for additions to the Irish recipe page.
My idea is to have people share the way their Irish mothers, grandmothers and aunts
cooked. Not recipes from other websites, but family favorites.
If you have a recipe we would like to name it for the person who cooked it, so let me know
the name. :)
The other recipes are at:
My thanks again for your response. As I said in my note
to you, I've been looking for that gold mine for a looooong
time re my KELLY's. Don't know if I will ever be able to
pin them down in UK.
Best of luck in your research.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] McDowell/Reilly/Kelly
> Hi Bev,
> Thanks for your information. I don't know anymore about the family lines
> than that listed in my posting. Maybe we'll both get lucky and hit
> genealogical gold one of these days!
I just saw the posting about Kelly in Longford. My computer was in the shop
so I don't have the full story. I am curious if you are searching the Kelly
name. I am looking for Catherine or Katie Kelly. married to John Greer. I don't
know where in Longford the Kelly name comes from . This Kelly and John Greer
had children by the name of Mary Greer, John Greer, and Annie Greer. I also
don't know if there were more children. The three I mentioned came to the
states. Brooklyn is where I found them. Could you let me know?
Eliz in New York USA
I saw your posting and wondered if you had any information on my lines.
Robert McDowell came to the US in 1841 aboard the Astrakan. He gives his home
as "Thornhill" 3 miles east for Edgeworthstown, Clombroney. This is in the
Emigrant Savings Bank. He married Eliza Bierne/Byrne but I don't know if this
was in Ireland or the US. They had their first child in NY in 1852, Robert,
then a daughter, Eliza (Jr) in 1853 in Michigan, and the last my GGM Ellen
born in Brooklyn in 1859.
Robert was born in 1812 and gives his parents as John McDowell and Ellen
Cody. His younger brother, Charles, married Catherina Soden and they came to
the US in @1862 with four of their six children.
My other Longford connections includes a Kelly. Robert Reilly and Catherine
Kelly had six children. James (my GGF) b. 1850 and baptized at Newtown
Forbes. Then John (1952) and Mary Ann (1954) are baptized in St Mary's. I don't
know when the other children were baptized. I believe Catherine was born in
1862. They also had Robert, Elizabeth, Margaret, and Jane. All but Jane
came to the US. In 1924 Jane was living in Dublin.
Any suggestions/assistance greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Noted your post to Irl-Longford list. I cannot relate directly to
your Patrick LEAVY of Co. Longford, but I do have that
surname in my data base & they originating in Edgeworthstown,
Co. Longford, ca 1773 & immigr'ng Quebec, Canada,
sometime between 1830-1833.
1 - Michael LEAVY b ca 1773 - Edgeworthstown, Co. Longford
+ Ann FARRELL
m ca 1793
2 - Mary; Bridget & Patrick - all b Edgeworthstown
2 - Patrick
+ Mary HICKEY
m ca 1825
3 - Joseph; Margaret; Christopher; Patrick - b Edgeworthstown
Hugh; Michael - b Quebec, Canada
Some surnames connected via m's:
CASEY; GORMAN; BULGAR;DILLON; POWER; KELLY
If you see someone familiar here I will gladly compare notes w/you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <flrdnk96(a)cableone.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:49 PM
Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] Patrick Leavy
> I'm looking for any information on a Patrick Leavy from county Longford
> sailed to Philadelphia from the port of Liverpool in 1821. He was possibly
> traveling with a brother. I know that is a common name, but I'm hoping
> someone can help. He ended up in Florida and married a Sarah Gay, they had
> one son who is my gg grandfather, Terrance Leavy. Terrance was adopted
> Patrick had an accident around 1840 and died. Terrance was brought up with
> the last name Wimberly. I'm just trying to find out what kind of history
> Leavy's have in Longford!!! Thanks.
> Stephen Smith
I'm looking for any information on a Patrick Leavy from county Longford who
sailed to Philadelphia from the port of Liverpool in 1821. He was possibly
traveling with a brother. I know that is a common name, but I'm hoping that
someone can help. He ended up in Florida and married a Sarah Gay, they had
one son who is my gg grandfather, Terrance Leavy. Terrance was adopted when
Patrick had an accident around 1840 and died. Terrance was brought up with
the last name Wimberly. I'm just trying to find out what kind of history the
Leavy's have in Longford!!! Thanks.
This is a forward...
--- Original Message ---
From: "Teri Rehurek" <orke712(a)hotmail.com>
Sent: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 08:31:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Chat Room this Tuesday
> 2nd try
> I do not E-mail the longford list much but just heard about a new
> book. My mail bounced back from the Longford list , I thought
> someone on the Galway list might know something about it.
> **Jerry or list
> Is there a new book out on Longford family connections. It may
> have been posted already somehow I missed it.
> Thanks Teri
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