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several years ago i went to neghsand some people from byu were there and
they had <A HREF="http://smgf.org:8081/pubgen/site15.jsp">this project</A> . i participated what it wass destined to do was to
determine where your ancsestors traveled. i had to give then four generations on all
sides . this was so they could know who, where they were.they explained it
and said eventually if your a geneaologist and doing the name DENNING . You
could go to them and submit dna and find out that my genes stayed in chelsea ma
for while ,previos stays of length were in ardagh,longford,lothiam scotland,
dover england, and serbia.
This facinated me . but the topper was that they showed us a map of
the world and said sure england grmany france ,america even south america had
tons of dots indicating markers. One place had none. Africa was a place no one
had been able to donate dna and four generations of family tree info. So they
would need to travel there and convince people to donate dna. with alot of
others from maybe england and other place that would have the geneaological info.
One day this would allow blacks in america to use their dna to locate
the nation country tribe and village their predecessors lived. Imagine the
travel agencies booking passage to these villages . we get excited at finding
this is whats capable thru dna.and its alread done at
a.-sprague- and ever growing list
Hi Christina :)
Well you can add me to the group. I have French Canadian ancestry too.
My French ancestors emigrated from France to Canada, then to Louisiana
.. not the Cajun French from Nova Scotia, but from Canada just the same.
Would love to see any censuses prior to 1901, if any exist.
>Quite a number of Americans had ancestors from Canada. I meet with some
>Genealogy friends once a week and out of seven of us - three have Canadian
Canadians and other interested parties have been trying to open up the Canadian
Census as post 1901 census may never be released in Canada.
There is a webpage with suggestions on how to support this effort:
There is a sample letter and petitions that can be used to support this effort.
Quite a number of Americans had ancestors from Canada. I meet with some
Genealogy friends once a week and out of seven of us - three have Canadian
In a message dated 5/6/2004 7:58:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> He had something like five people with the same name living in the
> same area and One World Tree merged three of them into one person. I will
> I have the same problem with the MOrmans. I had a person and they merged my
> person with someone else with a birth day near my person. I haven't tried
> correcting it as it seems to be a very complicated procedure. Anyway, also
> careful of anything submitted to LDS
look to blunt lds ,one world, or woerld connect can ot be trusted. why?
because you dont know where the info came from and who did it.i have seen
people in the mass archives find some name and then say "oh thats got to be our
guy" no it doesnt!
there was a fellow denning researcher who mail to the chelsea ma clerk
asking fot the birth cert. for James Denning born between 1878 and 1883.
the clerk wrote back wich one we have 7. now how many Dennings have you met
in your life. and 7 named James.As Iam doingthe geneaology of chelsea i see
the names over and over and the tendency to marry some lady with your moms name.
so you get george marring veronica no maiden name given egad that is a
recipe for mistakes.
so you do the mistake and then add it to a computor program and it being
smarter then us combines george and veronica because there is 16 yrs between
children . but the first couple got hitched at 16 so george the second was 37
when he had george the 3rd while george the 1st had his 8th kid that year.
i dont trust that kind of program and that kind of research.
a.-sprague- and ever growing list
In a message dated 4/30/2004 2:01:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
He had something like five people with the same name living in the
same area and One World Tree merged three of them into one person. I will
I have the same problem with the MOrmans. I had a person and they merged my
person with someone else with a birth day near my person. I haven't tried
correcting it as it seems to be a very complicated procedure. Anyway, also be
careful of anything submitted to LDS
The following is what is on Ancestry regarding OneWorldTree Service. I
noticed it is calling it a service, not a database. BUT ... the
database it's accessing has been collected by donations ... somehow,
this doesn't seem right. When people submitted their family trees, did
they know they were going to be used like this?
I think this is a good place to discuss this ussue, since it involves
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>Except that World Connect is a part of the Ancestry World Trees database. If you
>put your gedcom on World Connect on the RW side it shows up on Ancestry's World
>Trees. World Trees is not now in the One World Trees Database but *will be*.
>This whole thing could have been handled far better by Ancestry. They could have
>promised that gedcoms would always remain searchable for free. Instead they have
>a deadline to remove your Gedcom.
>So, it may be nothing. But people deserve to make a choice as long as there is a
>deadline. I maintain that it is my job to let the list know if something might
>affect their genealogy for good or ill. 90% of what I put on the list was from
>Ancestry's own pages.
>Happily - good people can disagree. <G>
I have updated the Ireland books section of my website. There are now
two parts, parish history books and all other books pertaining to
Ireland. This month books were added to all sections along with many
new lookup volunteers. Since many books, especially the Parish History
books are out of print so the lookup volunteers are being very unselfish
with their time to help others and many thanks go to them for helping to
make this website such an wonderful resource for Ireland family researchers.
Those who submitted books this month, please check your entries for
accuracy, since I do make mistakes. You can access the pages by going
to the URL below my name. On my homepage, at the top, under Ireland,
click on Ireland Books. This will take you to the Ireland Books
Discussion Mailing List website. At the bottom of that webpage, under
"Ireland Book Websites", you will find the links.
If you have books that you would like to submit or if you would like to
volunteer to do lookups, please use the convenient forms at the bottom
of all the book webpages. I update the sites each month and will add
your books with the next update.
Pat Connors, Sacramento CA
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In a message dated 5/5/2004 10:31:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> So, it may be nothing. But people deserve to make a choice as long as there
> is a
> deadline. I maintain that it is my job to let the list know if something
> affect their genealogy for good or ill. 90% of what I put on the list was
> Ancestry's own pages.
THANK YOU FOR INFORMING US
a.-sprague- and ever growing list
Except that World Connect is a part of the Ancestry World Trees database. If you
put your gedcom on World Connect on the RW side it shows up on Ancestry's World
Trees. World Trees is not now in the One World Trees Database but *will be*.
This whole thing could have been handled far better by Ancestry. They could have
promised that gedcoms would always remain searchable for free. Instead they have
a deadline to remove your Gedcom.
I suspect a lot of this has to do with their new competition on Gencircles.
<www.gencircles.com> I checked it out and they take the gedcoms and do Smart
Matching so you only get ones that are really your people. Gencircles has also
announced that they will start up an online subscription for data. Like
So, it may be nothing. But people deserve to make a choice as long as there is a
deadline. I maintain that it is my job to let the list know if something might
affect their genealogy for good or ill. 90% of what I put on the list was from
Ancestry's own pages.
Happily - good people can disagree. <G>
I don't want this topic to dominate the list. If you want to reply to me please
do so off list. Thanks!
On Wed, 05 May 2004 08:52:03 -0400 (EDT), BrennaJne(a)aol.com wrote:
| Do not confuse this with Rootsweb's World Connect Project. They
| are not
| the same thing.
Hurray for you!!
fond du Lac co wi USGenWeb county coordinator..
You go Girl.. I agree with you totally.. we all love finding things easily..
and who can really say they like spending days and weeks.. waiting for each
load up and look through it.. I know I tried it for 6 months.. with hardly no
and then in 3 weeks through Ancestry and yes I finally gave in and paid..
was able to trace my family tree back 6 generations and when they came to the
from Ireland.. and was even able to locate marriage records that I might not
able to locate..
So like you said.. smiling
No one is making them pay for anything..
that is thier choice to have researching made a little easier.
Just trying to do my family thing..
here is something from another list
Several lists are circulating dire warnings about Ancestry again, and as
a county coordinator, and pure genealogist (with no ties to Ancestry or
any USGenWeb office other than cc) I want to take this time to address
While Ancestry now owns the Rootsweb project, they are still two
separate entities. If you have ever done any searches on your own
surnames at Ancestry, you might not realize that the search results
link only to Ancestry databases, and not to any rootsweb county site
information. The data is separate.
Rootsweb projects are still free, while Ancestry operates on a
subscription basis, and this subscription plan keeps both entities alive.
Ancestry has a project called OneWorldTree, where it asked people to
submit their ancestry. They have created a search engine to all these
trees, which will be part of their subscription lines, and charge for
searching their tree database. [you can still search individual trees
yourself for free]. Announcement of the switch to subscription, has
sent alarms resounding throughout the genealogy lists.
Do not confuse this with Rootsweb's World Connect Project. They are not
the same thing.
"Ancestry is *not* charging for access to trees or selling trees: access
will remain free from both the RootsWeb and Ancestry side as it has
"What Ancestry is offering for an extra charge is access to a special
search engine to search the trees for you.
JUST IMAGINE.....having lots and lots of people send you their family
trees. You create a massive database INDEX or search engine, so that
instantly people can find a surname. Now you can offer people a
choice.....browse free, one by one, day by day, to look for your
surnames, or pay for use of the INDEX.
This is exactly the way the census records operate on ancestry. You can
browse census for free, but use of the index requires a subscription.
Folks can still search the trees manually or browse the trees for free
the same way they always have.
For your information, the Fond du Lac County WI website, would cost me
$75 per month, every month, if I had to place the website with a private
service provider. That's quite a bit of FREE server space, that I am
always greatful for, and I think that everyone needs to be aware of
that. That's $900 per year, for just one county. Multiply that by 72
counties, and you get a whopping $64,800, just for one state. Multiply
that by 50 states, and you would get
$3,240,000...........then........there are all those other countries who
have genealogical information, plus special projects, and the list goes
on and on..........yes, I know that not all counties have space on
rootsweb, and not all states have 72 counties, but I just used these
figures for an example.
I think that when you realize that Rootsweb must take a chunk out of
Ancestry's finances, (which is why the originators had to sell in the
first place) then I think you will realize that Ancestry subscriptions
keep both Ancestry and Rootsweb alive!!!
So, do not fall for the alarmists and their warnings.
Now, get back to your genealogy and enjoy the ability to find all this
data while sitting at home!!! Let the doom-sayers 'Cry Wolf' again.
Pay no attention. They're like spam....they keep coming but you have to
learn what's a real message and what's silliness, based on your own
Feel free to pass along any part of this message that you like...
fond du Lac co wi USGenWeb county coordinator
If you have Windows XP or 2000 it would probably be a good idea to make sure you
have the most recent security patches. This Sasser worm is causing problems. My
son's office computers were all down.
This one is *not* caught from emails but from a security flaw in Windows.
Look under your Tools menu and you can use the Windows update.