The following files have been added to the County Longford Website in the
month of July.
*Rachel Smith has submitted some of her family data that was previously on
Genconnect but which is harder to locate on the new message boards. We also
placed one of her letters in the Letters from Home Category:
Two of the Electoral Districts (Kilcommock & Doory) are now Complete. Thanks
go to Kate Hanley and Ellenjane LaSorsa for their hard work.
Taghsheenod Glebe Valuations
*St. Maurice Records
*Beatty Family Records
Castlerea Mountain Valuations
Ballintober (Bonny) Valuations
Ballintober (Rock) Valuations
To find the links to the above go to:
A few thoughts -
My own ancestral and related families include some of these names -
Tanners from Ards Townland (a couple of kms northwest of Kenagh), and
Shaw from Moydow, Kilcommock and Taghsheenod and Taghshinny Parishes.
Also Walsh from the same.
A few considerations:
1. You might try the Mosstown estate records for some interesting items
going back to the 1820s. They are available online.
2. As you probably are aware, I have a number of these parishes mapped
as to townlands (Kilcommock, Moydow, Killashee, etc.):
http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/tmoffatt/longford.html and scroll down to
3. If the Hall family was C of I, be sure to check out the Voters Lists
of 1790 that is available through the Mormon files. They do list those
with longterm leases, and are a marvellous resource if they can be used.
4. If you or others have any C of I families of the 1840s or 1850s in
neighbouring Killashee Parish, I have copies of some special resources I
can do lookups in.
I am sorry I was rushing and did not add any finding info for the books.
David Leahy has two books that I know of: County Longford and its people
which is an index to the 1901 census.
And County Longford Survivors of the Great Famine which is from Griffiths
Evaluation of 1854.
I found Amazon.com had County Longford and its People.
Mr Leahy has a website too where you can order at"
From: Lois Gunning [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 1:02 PM
To: Christina Hunt
Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Map of Longford
Christina, Where can I buy the County Longford book by David Leahy. I am
researching Gunnings in County Longford or thereabouts. Thank you. Lois
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christina Hunt" <Ninah(a)ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: [IRL-LONGFORD] Map of Longford
> There are a couple of maps that I received from a man who did research for
> me in Dublin online. They do not cover the entire county, unfortunately,
> they are detailed.
> Just as an aside, David Leahy's books on County Longford both include a
> Ordnance Survey map showing the townlands.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alison [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 2:18 AM
> To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] Map of Longford
> Could someone please tell me where I could find a detailed map of Co
> Longford showing small towns etc on line.
> Perth, Western Australia
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> May the Lord keep you in His hand
> And never close His fist too tight.
There are a couple of maps that I received from a man who did research for
me in Dublin online. They do not cover the entire county, unfortunately, but
they are detailed.
Just as an aside, David Leahy's books on County Longford both include a nice
Ordnance Survey map showing the townlands.
From: Alison [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 2:18 AM
Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] Map of Longford
Could someone please tell me where I could find a detailed map of Co
Longford showing small towns etc on line.
Perth, Western Australia
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I'm new to this Longford list. If anyone recognizes
any names etc that follow I would like to hear from
them. This, briefly, is my connection with Co
Longford. One set of my maternal Great Great
Grandparents - Charles Hall and Anne Bodel - farmed on
the Coolnahinch townland near Kenagh in the 1840s,
1850s until ??. The other set - Patrick Cooney and
Catherine Warrington - lived in Kenagh village
(Catherine Cooney is listed in the 1901 census aged
80). Patrick Cooney was a policeman but I'm not sure
if he was stationed in Kenagh or if he had retired
there because his daughter, Catherine, had married
Charles Hall of Coolnahinch. My Great Grandparents,
Charles Hall and Catherine Cooney, farmed at
Coolnahinch (1880s until 1930s when they both died) and
my Grandmother, Margaret Anne Hall, and all her
siblings were born there. There are still cousins
farming at Coolnahinch today. So the names that I am
HALL, BODEL, COONEY, WARRINGTON, HARRISON, CREAN,
MILLS, ROFS, HIGGINS, SHAW, TANNER, SHANNON, POLLOCK
The places that are of interest to me are Coolnahinch,
Kilmakinlan, Ards, Mosstown and Kenagh village.
1. I would like to find out how and when the Halls
first came to Coolnahinch in particular and Co Longford
2. I would like to hear from anyone with any
connection to these families or places.
I have recently taken over the maintenance of GENUKI's
Co Longford web pages. Here is the address and if
anyone has any corrections or additions for the pages
please let me know.
There is a brand new email virus/worm being called Sir Cam. It is new enough
that it got in under my Nortons a couple of days ago. I checked and see
virus defs after July 17th (Nortons) have this one included.
My email was from someone I didn't recognize and said "Just wanted your
advice on this" with a .doc attachment. I didn't open it and only later
learned it was Sir Cam. It is along the same order as the other email worms
that have been going around.
I have not set forth a bunch of list rules but two things I ask:
1. Let me make any announcements regarding viruses.
2. Let me make decide how to handle any problems that come up rather than
bringing them to the list. That's why I am here.
I don't want to see criticism of other people on the list no matter the
it seems the old blank is in the wringer everyone. i, innocently i must say,
took and correctly did what genealogists or writers of any type are taught to
do. i gave credit to mr. dunn for writing that piece i sent that we all were
so touched by. apparently, according to the enclosed letter i received today,
i am not in favor with these two people. so be it. i stand by my doing the
right thing and quoting name and place i got it. cie la vie= i did nothing
wrong but i am sorry i gave credit to someone who didnt have the
consideration to address me himself. it is still a wonderful letter but
please remove his name, lest i receive any more missive via 3rd party. yes i
am annoyed. i am not the type of person to distort the title, person, edition
etc. to all of you, i am sorry i sent wrong information innocently. to mr.
dunn=kiss off- you could have written to me directly-linda brown
THE STORY TELLERS- relayed from Tom Dunn
Date: 07/26/2001 11:19:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: <A HREF="mailto:ScismGenie">ScismGenie</A>
To: <A HREF="mailto:LindaBch">LindaBch</A>, <A
From: quest(a)springnet1.com (Karima)
Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:BOARDS-ADMINS-L@rootsweb.com">
Tom Dunn, a good friend, asked me to "try" to set the record straight
regarding his authorship of "The Story Teller" - basically he is NOT the
He asked me to send the following to the list:
Tom Dunn wrote:
This is nuts!!!!! How does something like this get stopped?
Here is the note I sent to both parties including the site!
re The Story Teller", a very moving piece, was sent to this list earlier
this week without the author's name. Here it is: written by Tom Dunn
For the umpteenth time.....I am not the author of this wonderful item! I
belong to an Irish mailing list and received this sometime several months
ago....the real author is simply unknown. I simply forwarded the item to
another list thinking others would find it interesting.
It is amazing how genealogists can distort sources...........
Thomas E. Dunn, LADC
Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, Flockmaster
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Visit our website:
i just wanted to tell you that the replies i received from all over the
world, not just on our lists,to the posting of THE STORY TELLERS, were
exhilirating to read. people opened their hearts and poured forth the the
emotions they felt and the thanks for posting that. i remind you, i did not
write it. i merely loved it and passed it on. i dont know the gent. but if i
ever find him(if he is not a past member of life) i will truly have to tell
him he pulled many more heartstrings than he could have realized when he
wrote that. as you can see, i am not able to verbalize the thoughts as well
as he! lol- good ole linda- fait accompli. so TOM DUNN, where ever the winds
are ruffling above you, we all love your ability to say what we feel. thanks
is inadequate and so on. peace to you. love-linda
This is important info from Liz Haren - IGP host for County Clare.
From: LizHaren(a)aol.com [mailto:LizHaren@aol.com]
Word of Warning on the Query boards.
IF you have ever posted on any query board with Rootsweb and IF you have
purchased from Ancestry.com, your full name, not your email address or the
name you choose to use on the web, is now attached to every post you ever
This is a problem if you prefer to have a low profile on the web. There are
many women and seniors out there who prefer to keep their last names
You can fix this problem by going to the profile section of any query board
and changing the information yourself. However, not everyone knows that
option is out there and in some cases people never return to look at the
board. In that case they will never know that their full names (as used on
your credit card) are out there attached to all that family information.
I've written to Rootsweb/Ancestry asking them to change this function by
using the persons email address but they've simply ignored me.
So if you aren't happy with having your full name attached to your queries,
make sure you go to the "new profile function" and change it.
Have you checked the church records on the Longford site?
Maybe they won't go back that far, but it's worth a try--at least a death
record might be there.
At 02:38 PM 07/22/2001 EDT, Backapowl(a)aol.com wrote:
> I am new to this list and to Irish geneology. Can anyone tell me the
>best way to go about finding the birth place of one George Belford b. 1814
>1871 somewhere in Longford? He married 12 April 1851 to a Jane Moore.
>Elaine in New York
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16. G, 1886 to B, 1887 new york city
FHL US/CAN Film lds
in these rolls i need the birth certificate info for lillian zander, dau. of
henry zander and possibly caroline (maiden unknown)
thank you!!!!!!!! linda erdmann= lillian was my grandmother
I am new to this list and to Irish geneology. Can anyone tell me the
best way to go about finding the birth place of one George Belford b. 1814 d.
1871 somewhere in Longford? He married 12 April 1851 to a Jane Moore.
Elaine in New York
I have been trying (unsuccessfully) to find details of a marriage between
JOHN REILLY and ANNE PETTIT. I know they had 3 boys in 1864, 1865 and 1870
all registered in Drumlish, Longford. Could anyone give me a clue on where
I could search next to find this elusive marriage. I have tried the IGI and
some microfilm at the Family History Centre. Any help would be appreciated.
Perth, Western Australia
I also have this book tho dated now. i will do lookups-please put Matawan or
Monmouth(as i offered to do monmouth alumni lookups also and that is brand
new book) in subj line so i can do a bunch of them at once if i get swamped.
Thanks for the piece about genealogists as Story Tellers. Checked the URL
you recommended. Of course I realized I fit the mold. I was the one in my
family born with the gift of words. So let me share with the Longford List
my tale below. The tone is lighter than the one you posted but I think my
message has a generic connection.
If I had known two years ago what I know now about searching for my family
in Ireland I probably would never have begun. In those early days "family"
meant just finding my grandparents and then tracing them back in a direct
line to Adam and Eve.
I gave it a week. Maybe a month. Of course, I didn't know then what "Place
of Origin" meant. I thought "Ireland" was enough. Don't laugh. Ignorance is
bliss, so they say, and I had a lot of both. To complicate matters I was
also new to my new computer and to the Internet as well as genealogy. And
still am--but who's watching?
With a shove from my son and a couple of primary U.S. records he collected
to get me started, I was on my way to finding my side of our family. Oh, I
had helped on the periphery of his search for his father's family, closely
read the documents he brought home, gave him lots of advice and information
he hadn't asked for, and accompanied him to local Baltimore (MD) cemeteries
where twice I literally stumbled over Eisenhauer graves. One contained his
great-grandparents. At another cemetery, I showed him where his grandparents
were buried, because I had known them. But then I just turned like a tuning
fork and walked to an older section of the same cemetery and directly in
front of me were even earlier Eisenhauers, who included his
great-great-great-grandmother. (I think it's 3 "greats," maybe four. Lost
count.) Sheer serendipity.
But for my Rattigans? Well, I joined one Irish Mailing List at Rootsweb,
then a second. Now it's nine. But I couldn't understand the language.
Griffith's Valuation? The Hearth Money Roll? The Spinning Wheel Survey?
Tithe Applotment Books? The 1901 Irish Census? (Why would I care about
that?) Civil Registration beginning in 1864 for RC's? And where was the LDS
and was it catching?
Along the way I developed an overwhelming passion for Surfing the Web. There
I was night after night reading Irish history, geography, politics, surname
distributios, etc. All at random. Actually, I just loved the power of
pushing the buttons on my new computer. But some of the knowledge stuck.
I learned that the ancestral home of the Rattigans was County Roscommon and
that the name was distinctive to Connaught Province. So I became an expert
in that area. (Well, of sorts.) And it was helpful that I have a good
memory. I absorbed Roscommon through osmosis, found RC Parishes, lost URL's,
couldn't figure out how to get back to those websites. Things are a little
better now between me and the computer.
But every Rattigan throughout Connaught was named "James," like my
grandfather. Or so it seemed. A brick wall, y'say? I'd say you're right
because I still don't know the Place of Origin for my James Rattigan,
without which in Ireland . . . ?
We are running out of U.S. records so our best clue remains the Irish Naming
Pattern. We have four generations of alternating "Bernard's" and "James-es,"
two born in Ireland and two in the U.S. (I am also similarly named, so my
father remembered this tradition and passed it along on this side of the
Atlantic.) If anyone finds a James Rattigan, b. July 1866, son of Bernard
Rattigan and Bridget Condan, please email me!
Better news to follow.
Chapter Two. Stay Tuned. The discovery of my grandmother's extended-extended
family in Tipperary Town, County Tipperary, a lot of whom immigrated to the
U.S. in a cluster to Newark, Essex County, New Jersey. Except that my cousin
Maureen and I didn't know this. We didn't know what had been sitting for
years in her mother's papers.