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>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 20:29:28 -0400
>Subject: Land measures prior to 19th C.
>>X-Original-Sender: reojan(a)home.com Wed May 24 17:16:27 2000
>>From: "Janet Crawford" <reojan(a)home.com>
>>Subject: Land measures prior to 19th C.
>>Hi List, I found the description of land measures prior to the 19thC.and
>thought I'd send them on to the list just because I love the sounds of the
>>One Gneeve contained 10 acres
>>One Sessiagh contained 20 acres
>>One Carton contained 30 acres
>>One Tate contained 60 acres
>>One Ballyboe contained 60 acres also
>>One Quarter contained 120 acres
>>One Ploughland contained 120 acres also
>>One Seisreagh contained 120 acres also
>>One Ballybetagh contained 480 acres
>>One townland contained more or less than 480 acres or about one Ballybetagh
>>One Trioca Cead or Barony contained on an average about 30 Ballybetaghs
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Many irish from South Longford and from Co. Westmeath came to Argentina
during the famine years and onwards.
Excuse my english, I speak spanish.
Duggan were between the first settlers here in Buenos Aires, and one of
them, Michael Duggan was the most prominent figure in the Irish community
here. The Southern Cross , the irish newspaper here mentioned him as the
most irish rich man in the River Plate and may be of the world. There were
some brothers that setthed here, but Michael was not married, the others
brothers did. I think this family came from Abbeyshrule in South Longford.
This place is also called Taghshinny.My Mac Cormack family came from this
place also, the rest of my irish ancestors came from Co. Westmeath . I can
check something here if you wish.
Alberto Savaglia Cormack
In the 1820's in rural Tipperary, what is the likelihood that a young man
would marry at the age of 16 years? I have a good poss. that a Michael
Barry is my ancestor, but that means he would have been 16 when he married.
Anybody w. experience know the answer?
I am looking for some info on my grandfather, Michael DUGAN. I have his
citizenship paper, which lists him as "Michael Duggan", so it may have been
He died in 1925 in NYC (I have the death cert.)
Anyway, he came from Ireland, but exactly where, I don't know. He married
Bridget Donnell from CASHEL, County Tipperary. I believe they married in
the US, but I'm not certain. They lived in the Bronx, NY, had six
children: Edward, John, Joseph, Ellen, May and Anne (my mother).
I seem to recall that Michael came from County Clare, but this is a hazy
I know John Dugan married Anna McGinn (sp.?) and they had a son, John who
would be my cousin, but I have no info on him.
I'd love any help with finding my cousin, John, and esp. finding out where
my gf came from to see if there are any relatives there.
Thanks to all who can help.
I am searching for a John Neil, born about 1788 in County Longford, and his wife, A. Cox, born about 1801, in the same county. Both were Catholic and emigrated to Quebec, Canada, between 1828 and 1833. Is it possible to find a record of their marriage in County Longford, without having a parish or townland name? This couple had at least 2 children before leaving Ireland: William Neil, born about 1827, and Mary Neil, born about 1828.
Any pointers would be appreciated,
I have started a new category on the County Longford GenWeb page called
Research Notes. If you have extracted a surname from a church record for
instance, I will place them in this category for others to be able to
benefit from. Just send me a text file and I will put it on the web page.
Please give me a name for the source used and time frame included.
Thanks for your help with this project!
(If you have any questions drop me a line.)
County Longford GenWeb
I am tracing the Moughty family. In 1907, Patrick Moughty, son of Bernard
and Mary Lynn Moughty arrived in NYC. According to the Manifest he was
going to a cousin, Thomas Gorman at 365 West 52nd Street, New York. I have
not found any Gorman ancestors, and wonder if this is the same Thomas
Gorman. Patrick Moughty was from Moyvore in Westmeath, on the border of
Longford, not far from Ballymahon. The names around his were from Longford,
as well including Symth, Moran and Mullen.
> From: IRL-LONGFORD-D-request(a)rootsweb.com
> Reply-To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT)
> To: IRL-LONGFORD-D(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #49
> From: bklyn <bklyn(a)webcom.com>
> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:25:15 -0400
> To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [LONGFORD] Gorman births
> In 1991, I wrote to the parish priest of Drumlish, Co. Longford for info on
> the birth of my gf, Thomas Gorman ca. 1861-1864. I rec'd the following
> info, taken from the parish register of St. Mary's Church there:
> Baptised 11 Aug 1855: Bernard, of Bernard Gorman & Margaret Conlon
> Baptised 22 Dec. 1855: Bernard, of Patrick Gorman & Eleanor Lee
> Bap. 08 June 1856: Anna, of John Gorman and Brigid Vernon (or Vernan)
> Bap. 08 Jan. 1857: Peter, of Peter Gorman and Rose Grimes
> Bap. 17 March 1857: Patrick, of Patrick Gorman & Alice Lee
> Bap. 12 April 1857: Patrick, of Michael Gorman & Brigid McKeon
> Bap. 22 May 1859: Michael, of Bernard Gorman & Rose Grimes
> Bap. 21 June 1859: Catherine, of Bernard Gorman & Margaret Conlon
> Bap. 29 June 1860: Peter, of Michael Gorman & Brigid Dorris
> Bap. 03 Sept. 1860, Patrick of Patrick Gorman & Alice Lee
> Bap. *15 May 1861: Thomas Gorman, son of Thomas Bernard and Margaret
> " 18 March 1866: Patrick Gorman, son of Thomas Bernard and
> Margaret Conlon
> "Unfortunately, our records of the time add no further details, such as
> (signed) PP
> * This appears to be my gf, but his death cert. listed his birthplace as
> NYC. I think that is an error, however.
> If anyone makes a connection, pls let me know.
You might also try The Irish Catholic Directory which has been published
annually since the 1830s. It names and gives parishes for all clergy. I
don't know where you are located but you may find a local Catholic library
which could find out where there are archive copies. Or send a begging
message for a lookup to a newsgroup like soc.genealogy.ireland.
The name maybe RODIGAN, rather than Radigan.
All good wishes,
Hi Bev, My gr-gr grandmother was Catherine McManus, married to Andrew Cox.
Catherine had a sister Ann and a brother Patrick. They were born in Longford
according to what we could find out. We do not know the parents names. We
did have a Mary Ann Farrell marry Michael Cox (brother of above Andrew Cox).
Also Many Radigans in the Family. All of these settled in Ontario. If you
need more info, please me know.
>In 1991, I wrote to the parish priest of Drumlish, Co. Longford for info on
>the birth of my gf, Thomas Gorman ca. 1861-1864. I rec'd the following
>info, taken from the parish register of St. Mary's Church there:
>Baptised 11 Aug 1855: Bernard, of Bernard Gorman & Margaret Conlon
>Baptised 22 Dec. 1855: Bernard, of Patrick Gorman & Eleanor Lee
>Bap. 08 June 1856: Anna, of John Gorman and Brigid Vernon (or
>Bap. 08 Jan. 1857: Peter, of Peter Gorman and Rose Grimes
>Bap. 17 March 1857: Patrick, of Patrick Gorman & Alice Lee
>Bap. 12 April 1857: Patrick, of Michael Gorman & Brigid McKeon
>Bap. 22 May 1859: Michael, of Bernard Gorman & Rose Grimes
>Bap. 21 June 1859: Catherine, of Bernard Gorman & Margaret Conlon
>Bap. 29 June 1860: Peter, of Michael Gorman & Brigid Dorris
>Bap. 03 Sept. 1860, Patrick of Patrick Gorman & Alice Lee
>Bap. *15 May 1861: Thomas Gorman, son of Thomas Bernard and Margaret
>" 18 March 1866: Patrick Gorman, son of Thomas Bernard and
>"Unfortunately, our records of the time add no further details, such as
>* This appears to be my gf, but his death cert. listed his birthplace as
>NYC. I think that is an error, however.
>If anyone makes a connection, pls let me know.
David Leahy's Survivors of the Great Famine (Index to Griffiths Valuation,
about 1854) lists a Thomas Bernard Gorman at Lisnageeragh which is in
Mostrim Parish. But most of the other Gormans he listed were in Killoe Ph.
The village of Drumlish is near the northwest corner of County Longford,
near the boundary of county Leitrim. I think this was formerly part of
Killoe Parish, and that there is now a Drumlish Ph.
Regarding locations around 1860, there were dislocations and evictions due
to the famine. It might be this family was based in Killoe (now Drumlish?)
and members who had to seek their fortune elsewhere, at least for a time,
came back to the their ancestral church for such special occasions as
It is really a problem that there were both Catholic and Protestant parish
names for the same places, which furthermore have been reorganized as civil
parishes and often renamed. How lovely if somebody knows a website which
has maps showing locations of these historic parishes in relation to each
other and to a modern map of the county. Fellow searchers, if you know of
such a site, please let us know about it!
I posted all the info I was given. It was specific to Gormans baptised in
1860's in Drumlish, Longford. That's all I have--sorry folks, if you
thought otherwise. It was a hand-written note from the parish priest,
which he mailed to me here in PA. If I had any more info, be sure I would