February 2000 - IRL-LONGFORD

by Rachel & Bob Smith

At 10:33 AM 2/28/00 -0800, you wrote: >IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 22 ______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:25:00 -0500 >From: Donna Moughty <moughty(a)apple.com> >To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <B4DF6B5D.2227%moughty(a)apple.com> >Subject: Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #19 > >I just got back from Ireland and stayed in Longford at the Longford Arms >Hotel. The Longford Museum and Heritage Center was locked up tight with no >info on hours, etc. Make sure you contact them before you go! > >Regards... >Donna The same good advice would apply to visiting the parish church and churchyard. The Church of Ireland no longer has its former support and may be open for services only on certain Sundays, with a rector who serves more than one parish. The churchyard may be fenced and gated. Write ahead and they'll be accommodating. The people are hospitable and glad to help, but they're part time or volunteers, just as in your own small town historical society. As to the cost, they're a bargain compared to professional searchers and a lot nicer about going the extra mile. Rachel Smith

19 years, 9 months

Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #19

by Donna Moughty

I just got back from Ireland and stayed in Longford at the Longford Arms Hotel. The Longford Museum and Heritage Center was locked up tight with no info on hours, etc. Make sure you contact them before you go! Regards... Donna > From: IRL-LONGFORD-D-request(a)rootsweb.com > Reply-To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:25:03 -0800 (PST) > To: IRL-LONGFORD-D(a)rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #19 > >> Hello Pat, >> >> I noticed in your reply to Carol, you mentioned the Longford Roots at >> the Longford Museum and Heritage Center. I was just wondering if you >> had contacted them prior to your trip and they were able to give you the >> information about your gg-grandparents, or if you went there on your >> trip to Ireland and they helped you find the information then. >> >> I had contacted Nancy from the list earlier today after seeing her >> mention of the Lonford Research Centre; however, she told me that they >> charged her $75.00, which seems a bit steep. >> >> I am assuming that these are 2 entirely different places (?) >> >> I'd appreciate any info. >> >> Regards, >> >> Pat

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Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #20

by Carol Mounts

My messages keep bouncing back. Can anyone advise?? Carol Mounts ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to hub.mail.iol.ie.: >>> RCPT To:<longford(a)hub.mail.iol.ie> <<< 550 <longford(a)hub.mail.iol.ie>... User unknown 550 <LONGFORD(a)IOL.IE>... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: <camounts(a)mlynk.com> Received: from mlynk.com (mlynk.com [208.223.227.2]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20076 for <LONGFORD(a)IOL.IE>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 19:47:54 GMT Received: from svjcbiti (ip77.wpic.com [208.223.227.77]) by mlynk.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA23897 for <LONGFORD(a)IOL.IE>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:51:28 -0500 Message-ID: <02a401bf7eff$fe74f020$4de3dfd0@svjcbiti> From: "Carol Mounts" <camounts(a)mlynk.com> To: <LONGFORD(a)IOL.IE> Subject: Claffey Research Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:47:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Dear Folks in Longford County, My husband and I are planning a trip to Longford County Ireland in June 2000. Would like to engage someone to do some research for us before we arrive. Can you let us know of prices, how to pay, what is available etc. ?? My third great grandparents James and Jane Claffey came from Longford County, Ireland arriving in Port of New York in August of 1817. I believe that 4 of their 5 children came with them. John, Susannah, Thomas, and Mary. (Katherine was born later in USA.) Will provide more info , dates , possible other names if there is someone who will contact me. Had other research done there a few years ago and can snail mail copies of that over , too. Look forward to hearing from someone there. Yours truly Carol Ann Claffey Mounts in Washington Pennsylvania, USA

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Re: Forthcoming Leahy book

by Rachel & Bob Smith

At 12:22 AM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote: >IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 20 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Correction: Forthcoming book [Mwcaml61(a)aol.com] > > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:32:20 EST >From: Mwcaml61(a)aol.com >To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <d3.1dd408d.25e58fc4(a)aol.com> >Subject: Re: Correction: Forthcoming book You wrote I understand that Mr. Leahy will have an additional index this >> spring. It'll be about those listed in the Tithe Applotment books of >> 1823-38. >> _____________________ >> Frank, byrny(a)prodigy.net Hurray! This will knock down a lot of brick walls for people who have been unable to find out their ancestors' parishes. We owe David Leahy a great debt of gratitude. This one will be especially valuable because it will tell where families were before all the evictions, dislocations and deaths of the famine time. Rachel Smith

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Re: Correction: Forthcoming book

by List user

You wrote >Sorry, but I mistyped his name - I meant to say Mr. Leahy ! Re: > Hi, I understand that Mr. Leavy will have an additional index this > spring. It'll be about those listed in the Tithe Applotment books of > 1823-38. > _____________________ > Frank, byrny(a)prodigy.net > Frank Thanks for the info will look out for that. And thank to all other list members who replied to my brickwall. Mick CAMMELL Surrey UK Stumbling after Bracken - Dublin Ire Cammell - Longford? Ire Cammell - Sheffield Rope - ditto Clover - ditto Bates - Surrey Bartlett - ditto Cavanagh ditto Levitt - ditto and others in hiding.

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Re: Cost of research in Co. Longford.....

by List user

Yes, price has gone up considerably in the last 18 months. A few months ago it was $70. A year & a half ago it was $42. I dont know the reason for the increase except that for a time Longford was one of the cheapest counties to search. You can print out the research form and cost at http://www.irishroots.net/Longford.htm

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Re: Accomodations in County Longford

by John Michael Coogan

Pat, Yes I did contact the Longford Heritage Center before my trip. They sent me the information about 6 weeks after I had sent them the money. I did not go there when I was in Ireland since they said they sent me all the information they could find - even though they had no record of my ggrandfather only his family. I have no idea who Nancy dealt with (I did not see her note) but as I said my inquiry was in 1998 their research prices may have gone up but that does seem high to me. ---------- >From: Colon <colon(a)nac.net> >To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Accomodations in County Longford >Date: Tue, Feb 22, 2000, 1:21 AM > >Hello Pat, > >I noticed in your reply to Carol, you mentioned the Longford Roots at >the Longford Museum and Heritage Center. I was just wondering if you >had contacted them prior to your trip and they were able to give you the >information about your gg-grandparents, or if you went there on your >trip to Ireland and they helped you find the information then. > >I had contacted Nancy from the list earlier today after seeing her >mention of the Lonford Research Centre; however, she told me that they >charged her $75.00, which seems a bit steep. > >I am assuming that these are 2 entirely different places (?) > >I'd appreciate any info. > >Regards, > >Pat >

19 years, 9 months

Re: Cost of research in Co. Longford.....

by John Michael Coogan

Joni: The address is: Longford Roots Longford Museum and Heritage Centre 1 Church Street Longford Republic of Ireland Tel 043-41235 fax 00 353 43 41235 email LONGFORD(a)IOL.IE Hope this helps. Pat Connor Coogan ---------- >From: Janell998(a)aol.com >To: jcoogan(a)dgsys.com >Subject: Re: Cost of research in Co. Longford..... >Date: Tue, Feb 22, 2000, 12:51 AM > > >I am very interested.....can you give me more information....address and >phone number so >I can contact the researcher.....thank you so much>>> Joni > > >At the time that I paid for my research the cost was 15 Irish Punts or >$21.00. That was March 31, 1998. As far as I am concerned that was the >best $21.00 I have spent on genealogy. I sent them the check along with the >inquiry since I understood that was the only way they would do the search. I >received information back from them by the end of April. The man their that >took care of my research was a Martin Gray, Assistant Researcher. Let me >know if I can help with anything and good luck in your research. > >Pat Connor Coogan > > > > >

19 years, 9 months

County Longford GenWeb online

by Christina Hunt

Just to let you know...the County Longford GenWeb page is now up and running. For those of you looking for places to stay, check out the link to the Clan Farrell get together in Longford this summer. Their webpage has a lot abt places to stay etc. The url for Co Longford GenWeb is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog Best regards, Christina

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Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #17

by Rachel & Bob Smith

>Subject: Patrick REARDON, GORMAN Hello, Pat, You wrote >I am trying to find information on the family of my great- >grandfather, Patrick REARDON, from County Longford. He was born about >1855 to Patrick REARDON and Ellen GORMAN. His first wife's name was Hannah or Nora (possibly >I saw the mention about the 2 David Leahy's and was wondering if anyone >might know if there were any Reardon's listed. Yes. Survivors of the Great Famine lists Reardon (indicating it was then spelled Rereton) in three townlands in Ardagh Ph. Patrick was in Cross townland. There were Gormans in many townlands of several parishes, Thomas being listed at Lisnageerah in Mostrim Ph. Interestingly there was an Honoria Gorman listed. This person would be at least one generation older than your individuals, who were infants or not born in 1854, but the first and second wife seem to have been related, and this Honoria might be a grandmother?? She is listed at Deerpark townland in Agharra Ph. >After his first wife's death, he married Mary DONOHUE, daughter of >Thomas GORMAN and Ann GLEESON. The Longford Heritage Centre charge according to how much you ask them to look up. They have to go through a lot of records of baptisms and marriages of a lot of parishes. I thought i got a lot for my money. They would be able to sort out where the children were born. The record often tells who were the fathers of the bride and groom, sometimes the occupation. Mine were C of I records, don't know what is in the Catholic records. Rachel Smith >______________________________X-Message: #5 >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:21:50 -0800 >From: Colon <colon(a)nac.net> >To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <38B22AFE.8315A575(a)nac.net> >Subject: Re: Accomodations in County Longford >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello Pat, > >I noticed in your reply to Carol, you mentioned the Longford Roots at >the Longford Museum and Heritage Center. I was just wondering if you >had contacted them prior to your trip and they were able to give you the >information about your gg-grandparents, or if you went there on your >trip to Ireland and they helped you find the information then. > >I had contacted Nancy from the list earlier today after seeing her >mention of the Lonford Research Centre; however, she told me that they >charged her $75.00, which seems a bit steep. > >I am assuming that these are 2 entirely different places (?) > >I'd appreciate any info. > >Regards, > >Pat >

19 years, 9 months

Re: Accomodations in County Longford

by Colon

Hello Pat, I noticed in your reply to Carol, you mentioned the Longford Roots at the Longford Museum and Heritage Center. I was just wondering if you had contacted them prior to your trip and they were able to give you the information about your gg-grandparents, or if you went there on your trip to Ireland and they helped you find the information then. I had contacted Nancy from the list earlier today after seeing her mention of the Lonford Research Centre; however, she told me that they charged her $75.00, which seems a bit steep. I am assuming that these are 2 entirely different places (?) I'd appreciate any info. Regards, Pat

19 years, 9 months

Patrick REARDON

by Colon

Hello, I am trying to find information on the family of my great- grandfather, Patrick REARDON, from County Longford. He was born about 1855 to Patrick REARDON and Ellen GORMAN. He may have had a brother, Michael, and a sister, Kate. He emigrated to the US around 1889 and settled in Paterson, NJ. His first wife's name was Hannah or Nora (possibly Honorah) DONNELLY. I don't know if they married in Ireland or in the US. They had 2 children, Mary and John, both born in the 1890's in NJ. I saw the mention about the 2 David Leahy's and was wondering if anyone might know if there were any Reardon's listed. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Pat After his first wife's death, he married Mary DONOHUE, daughter of Thomas GORMAN and Ann GLEESON. I haven't had any luck finding any information on him or his parents in the IGI or on any of the films of BMD's for Longford that I ordered from the local LDS Family History Center.

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Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #12

by p.adams

Would appreciate any info about places to stay etc be posted on the list .... I would like it for future reference... Thanks.... Pat in Garrett County MD ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Mounts <camounts(a)mlynk.com> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:25 PM Subject: Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #12 > Good Pennsylvania Morning to Listers. > Am planning a short weeklong trip to Longford County Ireland in June 2000. > Can anyone suggest reasonably priced places to stay and eat. And can > research be done beforehand by professional genealogists on James and Jane > Claffey who came from Longford County Ireland in 1817. > Others buried near them in Donegal Catholic Cemetery in western PA are Jane > Cavanaugh, whose daughter Mary Cavanaugh married Locklin Egan. All came from > Longford County. > Any advice appreciated. > Carol Ann Claffey Mounts in Washington Pa. > > >

19 years, 9 months

Locating townlands

by Rachel & Bob Smith

Nancy, Tagshinny, Tennalick, and Carrickedmond are townlands in Tagshinny Parish, all right together. Abbeyshrule is in Abbeyshrule Parish nearby, just a little separated. You can find them on the map provided in David Leahy's Survivors of the Great Famine, an index of Longford families resident at the time of the Griffiths Valuation, 1854. All the families you mention are listed in this index with the names of the places they lived. (Your surmise that Thomas Levy lived in Tennalick is correct.) This book would be very useful to you or anyone trying to locate a County Longford family. For info find http://homepage.tinet.ie/~daveleahy/ My roadmap show Tagshinny to be a village about one mile east of the N55 on Longford L18A, roughly 20 miles south of Longford. Abbeyshrule lies about four miles east on the same road. This is an Ordnance Survey map of Longford-Roscommon. It's possible to order a copy in this country. One source is David Morgan, www.davidmorgan.com or 1-800-324-4934. The scale is one-half inch to the mile. You might also like to have the relevant Griffiths Valuation sheets for the families. The listings there will tell you how much land the families occupied, its quality, amount taxed and the name of the landlord. If it's very much land, there may turn out to be recorded deeds between the ancestor and landlord and then you are off to the races! To obtain these records write to National Archives Four Courts Dublin 7 Ireland Ask that you may pay in US funds. To order the returns you'll need to supply the names, parishes and townlands. It was recently four dollars per return, airmail postage. Or, if you'd just like to know what kind of a place the folks lived at, the Longford County Library would send you a photocopy of the relevant entries for the townlands in O'Donovan's Field Name Book. This was, as I understand and I'd be glad to be corrected if wrong, got up to accompany the Ordnance Survey mapping. An entry is a paragraph describing the size, land character, economic uses, presence of dwellings, antiquities and variant names and spellings of the place. You should send not one, but several International Response Coupons because a staff person has to make the copies and mail them. Have fun! Rachel Smith

19 years, 9 months

Re: Cost of research in County Longford

by John Michael Coogan

Paul, At the time that I paid for my research the cost was 15 Irish Punts or $21.00. That was March 31, 1998. As far as I am concerned that was the best $21.00 I have spent on genealogy. I sent them the check along with the inquiry since I understood that was the only way they would do the search. I received information back from them by the end of April. The man their that took care of my research was a Martin Gray, Assistant Researcher. Let me know if I can help with anything and good luck in your research. Pat Connor Coogan

19 years, 9 months

Re: Accomodations in County Longford

by Paul Tighearnaigh (aka: Tierney)

Pat, I'm new to Irish genealogy; do you mind telling me how much the research at the Longford Roots at Longford Museum and Heritage Centre cost? Did you send payment first or wait for them to tell you the cost? I too have only gggrandparents names, so you've given me some encouragement. Unfortunately, my names are a bit more common than yours but, I'm still hoping the same process might work for me. Any suggestions you might have would be welcome, too. Paul Tierney Moncure, NC p.s. A trip to Ireland is a long way off for me, but I'm saving your suggestions. Thank you for posting them to the list. John Michael Coogan jcoogan(a)dgsys.com wrote on 2/21/2000 11:51 AM >Carol, > >Finally found my book from our trip to Ireland. > >The greatest help was from Longford Roots at Longford Museum and Heritage >Centre, 1 Church Street, Longford. Tel 043-41235, fax 00 353 43 41235. >email LONGROOT(a)IOL.IE. >With only my gggrandparents names Thomas MCGRATH and Ann MULLEADY they were >able to find their marriage in 1821 and the baptisms of four of their >children in Shrule and Newtowncashel. > >We stayed in B & B's all over Ireland including NI. Two of them were >outstanding. One in County Tipperary and one in County Longford called: >"Ardken" in Ardagh. The owner is Miss Bridie Kenny - one of the kindest >people we met in Ireland. >The town is lovely and there is a wonderful restaurant in town. The tel is >(043) 75029/22129. > >Have a great trip, > >Pat Connor Coogan >

19 years, 9 months

Accomodations in County Longford

by John Michael Coogan

Carol, Finally found my book from our trip to Ireland. The greatest help was from Longford Roots at Longford Museum and Heritage Centre, 1 Church Street, Longford. Tel 043-41235, fax 00 353 43 41235. email LONGROOT(a)IOL.IE. With only my gggrandparents names Thomas MCGRATH and Ann MULLEADY they were able to find their marriage in 1821 and the baptisms of four of their children in Shrule and Newtowncashel. We stayed in B & B's all over Ireland including NI. Two of them were outstanding. One in County Tipperary and one in County Longford called: "Ardken" in Ardagh. The owner is Miss Bridie Kenny - one of the kindest people we met in Ireland. The town is lovely and there is a wonderful restaurant in town. The tel is (043) 75029/22129. Have a great trip, Pat Connor Coogan

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Burke/Perry in Tennalick

by Nancy Pierce

Hello, I am new to the list. I have recently received information from the Longford Heritage Centre about my great great grandfather, Edward BURKE. His obituary in the Brooklyn Eagle, 1895, stated that he was from Tennalick, County Longford. Apparently, he was born in May of 1841. His parents were Patrick BURKE and Margaret PERRY. Edward Burke married Mary LEVY, her parents were Mary CONNELLY and Thomas LEVY. I believe they may have been from Tennalick too. I wanted to know if anyone else is researching these names or this village? area? town? I am a little confused as to the divisions in Ireland. The four names of places I have associated with where these ancestors came from are Tennalick, Taghshinny, Abbeyshrule, Carrickedmond. I don't have a good map, so I can't really figure out where anything is - except Abbeyshrule. I am going to Ireland in May and would like to take a day trip to Longford. I understand that the church where Margaret Perry and Patrick Burke were married still stands. I would like to take my father (Edward Burke) there, I just need a little guidance. Any help would be very much appreciated. Nancy Burke Pierce

19 years, 9 months

Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #13

by List user

TO GOING TO CO. LONGFORD IN JUNE. I HAVE RELATIVES IN BALLYMAHON, COUNTY LONGFORD. HAVE BEEN THERE TWICE,STAYED BOTH TIMES AT RIVER INN ON MAIN ST; OWNER IS BREEGE MURRAY,VERY HELPFULL ON THE AREA. ONE OF MY COUSINS(CLEARY) IS MARRIED TO AN EAGAN IN ATHLONE COUNTY WESTMEATH WHICH IS NEAR CO LONGFORD; REGARDS; MIKE CLEARY

19 years, 9 months

LESLIE/QUIN

by Alf & Carol Barrie-

Hello all Just reposting my search for my g.g. grandmother's family. Anne LESLIE was born in Longford c. 1836 and had a sister Catherine. They were daughters of Alex LESLIE and Rose QUIN. Both girls emigrated to Australia. Regards to all from Sunshine Coast, QLD Carol Barrie

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