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At 10:33 AM 2/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
>IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 22
______________________________X-Message: #1
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:25:00 -0500
>From: Donna Moughty <moughty(a)apple.com>
>To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Message-ID: <B4DF6B5D.2227%moughty(a)apple.com>
>Subject: Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #19
>
>I just got back from Ireland and stayed in Longford at the Longford Arms
>Hotel. The Longford Museum and Heritage Center was locked up tight with no
>info on hours, etc. Make sure you contact them before you go!
>
>Regards...
>Donna
The same good advice would apply to visiting the parish church and
churchyard. The Church of Ireland no longer has its former support and may
be open for services only on certain Sundays, with a rector who serves more
than one parish. The churchyard may be fenced and gated. Write ahead and
they'll be accommodating.
The people are hospitable and glad to help, but they're part time or
volunteers, just as in your own small town historical society. As to the
cost, they're a bargain compared to professional searchers and a lot nicer
about going the extra mile.
Rachel Smith
I just got back from Ireland and stayed in Longford at the Longford Arms
Hotel. The Longford Museum and Heritage Center was locked up tight with no
info on hours, etc. Make sure you contact them before you go!
Regards...
Donna
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> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:25:03 -0800 (PST)
> To: IRL-LONGFORD-D(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #19
>
>> Hello Pat,
>>
>> I noticed in your reply to Carol, you mentioned the Longford Roots at
>> the Longford Museum and Heritage Center. I was just wondering if you
>> had contacted them prior to your trip and they were able to give you the
>> information about your gg-grandparents, or if you went there on your
>> trip to Ireland and they helped you find the information then.
>>
>> I had contacted Nancy from the list earlier today after seeing her
>> mention of the Lonford Research Centre; however, she told me that they
>> charged her $75.00, which seems a bit steep.
>>
>> I am assuming that these are 2 entirely different places (?)
>>
>> I'd appreciate any info.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pat
My messages keep bouncing back. Can anyone advise?? Carol Mounts
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From: "Carol Mounts" <camounts(a)mlynk.com>
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Subject: Claffey Research
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Dear Folks in Longford County,
My husband and I are planning a trip to Longford County Ireland in June
2000.
Would like to engage someone to do some research for us before we arrive.
Can you let us know of prices, how to pay, what is available etc. ??
My third great grandparents James and Jane Claffey came from Longford
County, Ireland arriving in Port of New York in August of 1817. I believe
that 4 of their 5 children came with them. John, Susannah, Thomas, and
Mary. (Katherine was born later in USA.)
Will provide more info , dates , possible other names if there is someone
who will contact me.
Had other research done there a few years ago and can snail mail copies of
that over , too.
Look forward to hearing from someone there.
Yours truly
Carol Ann Claffey Mounts in Washington Pennsylvania, USA
At 12:22 AM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote:
>IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 20
>
>Today's Topics:
> #1 Re: Correction: Forthcoming book [Mwcaml61(a)aol.com]
>
>
>______________________________X-Message: #1
>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:32:20 EST
>From: Mwcaml61(a)aol.com
>To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Message-ID: <d3.1dd408d.25e58fc4(a)aol.com>
>Subject: Re: Correction: Forthcoming book
You wrote
I understand that Mr. Leahy will have an additional index this
>> spring. It'll be about those listed in the Tithe Applotment books of
>> 1823-38.
>> _____________________
>> Frank, byrny(a)prodigy.net
Hurray! This will knock down a lot of brick walls for people who have been
unable to find out their ancestors' parishes. We owe David Leahy a great
debt of gratitude.
This one will be especially valuable because it will tell where families
were before all the evictions, dislocations and deaths of the famine time.
Rachel Smith
You wrote
>Sorry, but I mistyped his name - I meant to say Mr. Leahy !
Re:
> Hi, I understand that Mr. Leavy will have an additional index this
> spring. It'll be about those listed in the Tithe Applotment books of
> 1823-38.
> _____________________
> Frank, byrny(a)prodigy.net
>
Frank
Thanks for the info will look out for that. And thank to all other
list members
who replied to my brickwall.
Mick CAMMELL
Surrey UK
Stumbling after
Bracken - Dublin Ire
Cammell - Longford? Ire
Cammell - Sheffield
Rope - ditto
Clover - ditto
Bates - Surrey
Bartlett - ditto
Cavanagh ditto
Levitt - ditto
and others in hiding.
Yes, price has gone up considerably in the last 18 months. A few months ago
it was $70. A year & a half ago it was $42. I dont know the reason for the
increase except that for a time Longford was one of the cheapest counties
to search. You can print out the research form and cost at
http://www.irishroots.net/Longford.htm
Pat,
Yes I did contact the Longford Heritage Center before my trip. They sent me
the information about 6 weeks after I had sent them the money. I did not go
there when I was in Ireland since they said they sent me all the information
they could find - even though they had no record of my ggrandfather only
his family. I have no idea who Nancy dealt with (I did not see her note)
but as I said my inquiry was in 1998 their research prices may have gone up
but that does seem high to me.
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>From: Colon <colon(a)nac.net>
>To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: Accomodations in County Longford
>Date: Tue, Feb 22, 2000, 1:21 AM
>
>Hello Pat,
>
>I noticed in your reply to Carol, you mentioned the Longford Roots at
>the Longford Museum and Heritage Center. I was just wondering if you
>had contacted them prior to your trip and they were able to give you the
>information about your gg-grandparents, or if you went there on your
>trip to Ireland and they helped you find the information then.
>
>I had contacted Nancy from the list earlier today after seeing her
>mention of the Lonford Research Centre; however, she told me that they
>charged her $75.00, which seems a bit steep.
>
>I am assuming that these are 2 entirely different places (?)
>
>I'd appreciate any info.
>
>Regards,
>
>Pat
>
Joni:
The address is:
Longford Roots
Longford Museum and Heritage Centre
1 Church Street
Longford
Republic of Ireland
Tel 043-41235
fax 00 353 43 41235
email LONGFORD(a)IOL.IE
Hope this helps.
Pat Connor Coogan
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>From: Janell998(a)aol.com
>To: jcoogan(a)dgsys.com
>Subject: Re: Cost of research in Co. Longford.....
>Date: Tue, Feb 22, 2000, 12:51 AM
>
>
>I am very interested.....can you give me more information....address and
>phone number so
>I can contact the researcher.....thank you so much>>> Joni
>
>
>At the time that I paid for my research the cost was 15 Irish Punts or
>$21.00. That was March 31, 1998. As far as I am concerned that was the
>best $21.00 I have spent on genealogy. I sent them the check along with the
>inquiry since I understood that was the only way they would do the search. I
>received information back from them by the end of April. The man their that
>took care of my research was a Martin Gray, Assistant Researcher. Let me
>know if I can help with anything and good luck in your research.
>
>Pat Connor Coogan
>
>
>
>
>
Just to let you know...the County Longford GenWeb page is now up and
running. For those of you looking for places to stay, check out the link to
the Clan Farrell get together in Longford this summer. Their webpage has a
lot abt places to stay etc.
The url for Co Longford GenWeb is:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog
Best regards,
Christina
>Subject: Patrick REARDON, GORMAN
Hello, Pat,
You wrote
>I am trying to find information on the family of my great-
>grandfather, Patrick REARDON, from County Longford. He was born about
>1855 to Patrick REARDON and Ellen GORMAN. His first wife's name was
Hannah or Nora (possibly
>I saw the mention about the 2 David Leahy's and was wondering if anyone
>might know if there were any Reardon's listed.
Yes. Survivors of the Great Famine lists Reardon (indicating it was then
spelled Rereton) in three townlands in Ardagh Ph. Patrick was in Cross
townland. There were Gormans in many townlands of several parishes, Thomas
being listed at Lisnageerah in Mostrim Ph. Interestingly there was an
Honoria Gorman listed. This person would be at least one generation older
than your individuals, who were infants or not born in 1854, but the first
and second wife seem to have been related, and this Honoria might be a
grandmother?? She is listed at Deerpark townland in Agharra Ph.
>After his first wife's death, he married Mary DONOHUE, daughter of
>Thomas GORMAN and Ann GLEESON.
The Longford Heritage Centre charge according to how much you ask them to
look up. They have to go through a lot of records of baptisms and
marriages of a lot of parishes. I thought i got a lot for my money. They
would be able to sort out where the children were born. The record often
tells who were the fathers of the bride and groom, sometimes the
occupation. Mine were C of I records, don't know what is in the Catholic
records.
Rachel Smith
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>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:21:50 -0800
>From: Colon <colon(a)nac.net>
>To: IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com
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>Hello Pat,
>
>I noticed in your reply to Carol, you mentioned the Longford Roots at
>the Longford Museum and Heritage Center. I was just wondering if you
>had contacted them prior to your trip and they were able to give you the
>information about your gg-grandparents, or if you went there on your
>trip to Ireland and they helped you find the information then.
>
>I had contacted Nancy from the list earlier today after seeing her
>mention of the Lonford Research Centre; however, she told me that they
>charged her $75.00, which seems a bit steep.
>
>I am assuming that these are 2 entirely different places (?)
>
>I'd appreciate any info.
>
>Regards,
>
>Pat
>
Hello Pat,
I noticed in your reply to Carol, you mentioned the Longford Roots at
the Longford Museum and Heritage Center. I was just wondering if you
had contacted them prior to your trip and they were able to give you the
information about your gg-grandparents, or if you went there on your
trip to Ireland and they helped you find the information then.
I had contacted Nancy from the list earlier today after seeing her
mention of the Lonford Research Centre; however, she told me that they
charged her $75.00, which seems a bit steep.
I am assuming that these are 2 entirely different places (?)
I'd appreciate any info.
Regards,
Pat
Hello,
I am trying to find information on the family of my great-
grandfather, Patrick REARDON, from County Longford. He was born about
1855 to Patrick REARDON and Ellen GORMAN. He may have had a brother,
Michael, and a sister, Kate.
He emigrated to the US around 1889 and settled in Paterson, NJ. His
first wife's name was Hannah or Nora (possibly Honorah) DONNELLY. I
don't know if they married in Ireland or in the US. They had 2
children, Mary and John, both born in the 1890's in NJ.
I saw the mention about the 2 David Leahy's and was wondering if anyone
might know if there were any Reardon's listed.
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Pat
After his first wife's death, he married Mary DONOHUE, daughter of
Thomas GORMAN and Ann GLEESON.
I haven't had any luck finding any information on him or his parents in
the IGI or on any of the films of BMD's for Longford that I ordered from
the local LDS Family History Center.
Would appreciate any info about places to stay etc be posted on the list
.... I would like it for future reference... Thanks....
Pat in Garrett County MD
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From: Carol Mounts <camounts(a)mlynk.com>
To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V00 #12
> Good Pennsylvania Morning to Listers.
> Am planning a short weeklong trip to Longford County Ireland in June 2000.
> Can anyone suggest reasonably priced places to stay and eat. And can
> research be done beforehand by professional genealogists on James and
Jane
> Claffey who came from Longford County Ireland in 1817.
> Others buried near them in Donegal Catholic Cemetery in western PA are
Jane
> Cavanaugh, whose daughter Mary Cavanaugh married Locklin Egan. All came
from
> Longford County.
> Any advice appreciated.
> Carol Ann Claffey Mounts in Washington Pa.
>
>
>
Nancy,
Tagshinny, Tennalick, and Carrickedmond are townlands in Tagshinny Parish,
all right together. Abbeyshrule is in Abbeyshrule Parish nearby, just a
little separated. You can find them on the map provided in David Leahy's
Survivors of the Great Famine, an index of Longford families resident at
the time of the Griffiths Valuation, 1854. All the families you mention
are listed in this index with the names of the places they lived. (Your
surmise that Thomas Levy lived in Tennalick is correct.) This book would
be very useful to you or anyone trying to locate a County Longford family.
For info find http://homepage.tinet.ie/~daveleahy/
My roadmap show Tagshinny to be a village about one mile east of the N55 on
Longford L18A, roughly 20 miles south of Longford. Abbeyshrule lies about
four miles east on the same road. This is an Ordnance Survey map of
Longford-Roscommon. It's possible to order a copy in this country. One
source is David Morgan, www.davidmorgan.com or 1-800-324-4934. The scale
is one-half inch to the mile.
You might also like to have the relevant Griffiths Valuation sheets for the
families. The listings there will tell you how much land the families
occupied, its quality, amount taxed and the name of the landlord. If it's
very much land, there may turn out to be recorded deeds between the
ancestor and landlord and then you are off to the races!
To obtain these records write to
National Archives
Four Courts
Dublin 7
Ireland
Ask that you may pay in US funds. To order the returns you'll need to
supply the names, parishes and townlands. It was recently four dollars per
return, airmail postage.
Or, if you'd just like to know what kind of a place the folks lived at, the
Longford County Library would send you a photocopy of the relevant entries
for the townlands in O'Donovan's Field Name Book. This was, as I
understand and I'd be glad to be corrected if wrong, got up to accompany
the Ordnance Survey mapping. An entry is a paragraph describing the size,
land character, economic uses, presence of dwellings, antiquities and
variant names and spellings of the place. You should send not one, but
several International Response Coupons because a staff person has to make
the copies and mail them.
Have fun!
Rachel Smith
Paul,
At the time that I paid for my research the cost was 15 Irish Punts or
$21.00. That was March 31, 1998. As far as I am concerned that was the
best $21.00 I have spent on genealogy. I sent them the check along with the
inquiry since I understood that was the only way they would do the search. I
received information back from them by the end of April. The man their that
took care of my research was a Martin Gray, Assistant Researcher. Let me
know if I can help with anything and good luck in your research.
Pat Connor Coogan
Pat,
I'm new to Irish genealogy; do you mind telling me how much the research
at the Longford Roots at Longford Museum and Heritage Centre cost? Did
you send payment first or wait for them to tell you the cost? I too have
only gggrandparents names, so you've given me some encouragement.
Unfortunately, my names are a bit more common than yours but, I'm still
hoping the same process might work for me. Any suggestions you might have
would be welcome, too.
Paul Tierney
Moncure, NC
p.s. A trip to Ireland is a long way off for me, but I'm saving your
suggestions. Thank you for posting them to the list.
John Michael Coogan jcoogan(a)dgsys.com wrote on 2/21/2000 11:51 AM
>Carol,
>
>Finally found my book from our trip to Ireland.
>
>The greatest help was from Longford Roots at Longford Museum and Heritage
>Centre, 1 Church Street, Longford. Tel 043-41235, fax 00 353 43 41235.
>email LONGROOT(a)IOL.IE.
>With only my gggrandparents names Thomas MCGRATH and Ann MULLEADY they were
>able to find their marriage in 1821 and the baptisms of four of their
>children in Shrule and Newtowncashel.
>
>We stayed in B & B's all over Ireland including NI. Two of them were
>outstanding. One in County Tipperary and one in County Longford called:
>"Ardken" in Ardagh. The owner is Miss Bridie Kenny - one of the kindest
>people we met in Ireland.
>The town is lovely and there is a wonderful restaurant in town. The tel is
>(043) 75029/22129.
>
>Have a great trip,
>
>Pat Connor Coogan
>
Carol,
Finally found my book from our trip to Ireland.
The greatest help was from Longford Roots at Longford Museum and Heritage
Centre, 1 Church Street, Longford. Tel 043-41235, fax 00 353 43 41235.
email LONGROOT(a)IOL.IE.
With only my gggrandparents names Thomas MCGRATH and Ann MULLEADY they were
able to find their marriage in 1821 and the baptisms of four of their
children in Shrule and Newtowncashel.
We stayed in B & B's all over Ireland including NI. Two of them were
outstanding. One in County Tipperary and one in County Longford called:
"Ardken" in Ardagh. The owner is Miss Bridie Kenny - one of the kindest
people we met in Ireland.
The town is lovely and there is a wonderful restaurant in town. The tel is
(043) 75029/22129.
Have a great trip,
Pat Connor Coogan
Hello,
I am new to the list. I have recently received information from the
Longford Heritage Centre about my great great grandfather, Edward BURKE.
His obituary in the Brooklyn Eagle, 1895, stated that he was from
Tennalick, County Longford. Apparently, he was born in May of 1841. His
parents were Patrick BURKE and Margaret PERRY. Edward Burke married Mary
LEVY, her parents were Mary CONNELLY and Thomas LEVY. I believe they may
have been from Tennalick too.
I wanted to know if anyone else is researching these names or this village?
area? town? I am a little confused as to the divisions in Ireland. The
four names of places I have associated with where these ancestors came from
are Tennalick, Taghshinny, Abbeyshrule, Carrickedmond. I don't have a good
map, so I can't really figure out where anything is - except Abbeyshrule.
I am going to Ireland in May and would like to take a day trip to Longford.
I understand that the church where Margaret Perry and Patrick Burke were
married still stands. I would like to take my father (Edward Burke) there,
I just need a little guidance.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Nancy Burke Pierce
TO GOING TO CO. LONGFORD IN JUNE. I HAVE RELATIVES IN BALLYMAHON,
COUNTY LONGFORD. HAVE BEEN THERE TWICE,STAYED BOTH TIMES AT
RIVER INN ON MAIN ST; OWNER IS BREEGE MURRAY,VERY HELPFULL ON THE AREA. ONE
OF MY COUSINS(CLEARY) IS MARRIED TO AN EAGAN IN ATHLONE
COUNTY WESTMEATH WHICH IS NEAR CO LONGFORD;
REGARDS; MIKE CLEARY
Hello all
Just reposting my search for my g.g. grandmother's family. Anne LESLIE was
born in Longford c. 1836 and had a sister Catherine. They were daughters of
Alex LESLIE and Rose QUIN. Both girls emigrated to Australia.
Regards to all from Sunshine Coast, QLD
Carol Barrie
