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It has been a month since the last update so the latest version of the
Researchers Database is available on the website
You can pick up the latest Donegal Researchers List at: (Box in Red print).
"Click Here to Download the Donegal Researchers List"
Just click the box (Red Box)and follow the instructions.
How To Submit Your New Research Information to the Database
The actual database is a READ ONLY file, you can not directly update the
data in it. Submit your data "as per the instructions" via the Donegaleire
EASIEST WAY TO INPUT your research names and data.
Open a New Email
Address it to:DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com
Subject Line: New Donegal Researchers Names
Copy and Paste the following line of data into the body of your BLANK
email, all in one line
Your Email Address,PLU,Civil Parish,Townland,Surname and Given,Maiden
Name and Given,Child,Child,Child,Child ---- up to 10 kids.
Now insert your data BETWEEN the COMMAS
No spaces after the commas - other than a space between the
Surname/Maiden and Given name.
No other details,
No dates, no nick names etc.
If you DON"T know the information enter "u/k" without the quotes
Email to the Donegal Mailing List
If you are having difficulty putting you data in the correct format send
it directly to me and I will input it...........make sure I can follow
who is who and where they come from.
You are showing off, Mrs. Buckley!
In the spirit of one-upmanship, I just had to see what I could add, if
anything, to your amazing thumbnail sketch of Jill's family and came up with
In the early 1850s, Manus Doherty leased, with four others, Plot 3 in
Meendoran as shown in the Griffiths valuation. This consisted of two very
large pieces of land. Plot 3A was 129 acres and Plot 3B was 225 acres.
However, before Jill or her friend get too excited, this was probably
mountain bogland and so not of much value.
Of more interest are the four people with whom he shared this land. They
were Hugh McIlvenny, James McIlvenny, Edward McGonigle and Owen McGonigle.
The first three men lived in three cottages on Plot 3A and Owen McGonigle
lived on Plot 4A but Manus Doherty did NOT lease a house anywhere in
Clonmany. This suggests to me that Manus Doherty lived with someone else,
probably a brother, father or whatever. There is a James Doherty, for
example, in the house designated c on Plot 4B in Meendoran and he is the
only other Doherty living in the townland. Has to be a link.
This can all be viewed here, where there is also a map showing exactly where
the plots and the houses were:
Welcome back, Lindel!!
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Lindel
Sent: 19 May 2012 13:41
Subject: Re: [IRL-CO-DONEGAL] Daniel H. Doherty, Meendaran, Clonmany, County
Hi Jill. Daniel's parents were Henry Doherty and Elizabeth Doherty - the
mother had the same surname as her husband.................his official
birth cert has him born 16 Mar 1893 (I only have a transcript of this)
however, according to the church register, he was born 11 Mar 1893 and
baptised 12 Mar............yes, 5 days before he was officially
born................which is pretty normal! Baptisms were normally
within a day or two of the child's birth - civil registration was done
up to weeks or even months later and not always an accurate date. If you
want a scan of his baptism, let me know.
I just found an index record for Daniel Doherty on Ancestry.com.
Born Jan-Feb-Mar Inishowen Vol 2 page 111. They list a FHL film number but it is just an index. Film 101065. You can write to the GRO in Roscommon and order a photocopy. However, I when I got my Irish Citizenship a few years ago they required a Long Form certified copy.
Here is a link to the site
The Long Form is 10 euros. You can also now order it online. The fee is the same.
Jill - concerning LDS films for Births, I have access to Donegal items
for these years and volumes that are on your list [1894, 95 and 96 were
not filmed]. I have helped ONE young lady obtain Irish citizenship, she
lives in Canada. All that was needed was an image of the pertinent
Birth Registration. A JPG of the entry was accepted though it was about
Volumes 2, 4, 7, 12 and 17
Volumes 2, 7, 12 and 17
FamilySearch.org will give you the specific volume and year to check for
the original entry. After 1 Jan, 1878, there was a Quarter Year also in
the Index information. If you have specific years for other births, let
me know and I'll post the volumes I have access to [there were 20
volumes every year for Births beginning 1 Jan, 1864]. That will keep
you from having to order those films. I can use a digital camera and
send JPGs of the pages you are interested in.
There are a lot of Births filmed. There is a series of 1034 films for
Births in Ireland, many included Donegal. There were gaps between 1864
and the current year. The FILMED years include .....
1922-1955 [Irish Free State]
Of those years NOT filmed, some can be downloaded at IFHF
[RootsIreland.ie]. Searches are free [after free registration] its only
the downloads that cost. Some have been transcribed by
FamilySearch.org/ but not all.
The FHC here has ALL the INDEX films showing Births from 1864-1958. If
you are still needing INDEX data for names that did not show up online,
send me a list of names and expected years, I'll check the INDEX films
for them. DOHERTY is a pretty common surname so there may be several
entries within Donegal for your names unless they are unusual given
names like Oscar or Austin. Still, the films should have all the
entries if the right volume is on the shelves.
Meg Greenwood / near Tulsa, Oklahoma
> Genealogy colleagues, I am seeking the birth certificate for Daniel (Henry) Doherty, b. 14 March 1894/1896 in Meendaran, Clonmany, County Donegal and who d. 12 March 1948 in Pierce County, WA, USA. Meendaran is also spelled Mindoran.
> The 1894 birth year for Daniel is the most likely as it is the calculated birth year based on the 1901 and the 1911 Census of Ireland. In 1917, Daniel declared he was born in 1896 at the time of his registration for the draft for WWI. He immigrated in 1914.
> I do not have the index number for Daniel's birth nor access to findmypast.ie or rootsireland.ie.
> I have narrowed down the options to 5 candidates all located on the FHL film 4193979 where I understand I can get the index number. I am prepared to send for all five candidates, if necessary, and then find out which one of them has his father, Henry Doherty (b. 1866, Co. Donegal) and mother Lizzie --?-- (b. 1867, Co Donegal) listed. I also understand that sometimes the registration of the birth was delayed due to cost at the time.
> I was wondering if this is a good/efficient process to obtain the above document….
> 1. order the FHL tape
> 2. get the index number
> 3. send for 5 certificates
> Is there an easier way?
> I am helping a friend get her Irish Citizenship. Thanks so much for your help.
I am seeking the birth certificate for Daniel (Henry) Doherty, b. 14 March 1894/1896 in Meendaran, Clonmany, County Donegal and who d. 12 March 1948 in Pierce County, WA, USA. Meendaran is also spelled Mindoran.
The 1894 birth year for Daniel is the most likely as it is the calculated birth year based on the 1901 and the 1911 Census of Ireland. In 1917, Daniel declared he was born in 1896 at the time of his registration for the draft for WWI. He immigrated in 1914.
I do not have the index number for Daniel's birth nor access to findmypast.ie or rootsireland.ie.
I have narrowed down the options to 5 candidates all located on the FHL film 4193979 where I understand I can get the index number. I am prepared to send for all five candidates, if necessary, and then find out which one of them has his father, Henry Doherty (b. 1866, Co. Donegal) and mother Lizzie --?-- (b. 1867, Co Donegal) listed. I also understand that sometimes the registration of the birth was delayed due to cost at the time.
I was wondering if this is a good/efficient process to obtain the above document….
1. order the FHL tape
2. get the index number
3. send for 5 certificates
Is there an easier way?
I am helping a friend get her Irish Citizenship. Thanks so much for your help.
I have a birth record which seems to suggest that the child was born in the
Carndonagh Workhouse but I am unsure if that is the case or if Carndonagh
Workhouse was simply where the Registration Office for that area was
The cert reads:
Registration of Births and Deaths in Ireland
Certified Copy of Entry in the Register Book of Births deposited in the
Superintendant Registrar's Office
(Then follows the usual details. The date is 1873 and the Place of Birth is
just given as Carndonagh, as is the Dwelling place of the father.)
I hereby certify that the foregoing is a true copy of the entry No. 48 in
the Register Book of Births in the above district deposited in my office.
Office: Workhouse Carndonagh
Date: 5th July 1897
Signed : Illegible name
Superintendant registrar of Births Marriages and Deaths
For the District of Inishowen
I can send the original if anyone would like to see it.
The Sacred Heart Church does indeed have a graveyard, though I'm not sure
when it started. As with many Irish graveyards, the gravestones weren't
stone for quite a while and many early graves don't have markers any more.
The old church was located down below the current position, at what is now
the main entrance to the graveyard. My mother's family is from Carndonagh,
and my mother is from Glebe, a stone's throw from Glenmakee. I grew up next
parish over in Clonmany. I'm afraid that much like other Catholic churches,
deaths were not recorded for much of the 1800s. The Carndonagh parish
records (baptism/marriage) start in either 1847 or 1848 as far as I
The Sacred Heart Church is the only Catholic church in the parish. I have a
database of the records from 1848 to 1900 that I did up a few years ago
somewhere, and I can dig it out if you haven't had these looked up.
On 17 April 2012 12:37, BARBARA NELSON <barb19401(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> Doea anyone know if the Sacred Heart Church in Carndonagh has a cemetary.
> If so who were buried there, years etc too.
> I'm looking for James O'Donnell dob 1845, his wife Susan Doherty dob 1845,
> Two of their children Patrick 1867, and Maggie 1875
> Also James father John O'Donnell and his wife Elizabeth Carney
> Their son Peter born before 1844(1838?) he was the oldest of their 4 sons
> . Others came to US
> Would anyone know other cemetaries in Carndonagh where Catholics would
> most likely have been buried?
> Contact information for all the above if possible would be very helpful as
> Thank you so much for any help
> Please post in text only format.
> donkelly, admin
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