Hi -
Yes we need to compare notes! Below is copy of what I sent to another person who
responded. I did a respond all thinking it would go to the Vandeburgh County list but got
a bounce back from that. I have written to her to make sure she received it. Trying to
do a respond all here in case anyone else is looking for this info.
We are definitely connected to ones who had the Hermann Candy store. It was operated on
Main Street of Evansville for 100 years. We are descended from the son that started the
candy store. They are buried at St Joesph cemetery - all together on what they refer to
as The Hill. One of the ancestors bought all the space so everyone is buried in same
area. They also gave some of this land to the church for priests to be buried. I have
pictures of many of the stones including. Also have painting of Jacob and his wife.
I wonder if the Sebastian you mention could be a brother of Jacob Hermann born 1804. I
am thinking that so often families settled in same area. As I mentioned below we have
paper of Jacob showing he is about to move America. I just noticed it shows Wiesbaden in
Hesse Darmstadt and not sure if date is 1832 or 1837. I have had people look at it over
internet to translate but need to have someone translate the whole thing which is in Old
German. Someone told me it was from Bad Ems.
Do you know anything else about Sebastian? Is he buried at St. Joe's?
Thanks so much.
Marilyn Jacobs
Indianapolis
Here is info I wrote to other person.
However I have bit of different information:
Jacob Hermann born April 15, 1804 and died April 10 1870 from drowning in Ohio River. At
first he was missing and found article in paper which was neat that it gave description of
how he looked. Have painting of him and his wife that was probably done not long before
he died. I did see in 1860 census that he was a cabinet maker and remember seeing
someplace was at Tell City which is not far from Evansville. Also someplace I saw that
he made caskets. I have copy of document done in Bad Ems Germany that was done to get
approval for him to move to America. It does not necessarily mean he was born there but
that may have been where he had to go to get the document. This is what person told me
that translated the document. My main goal now is to document town he came from in
Germany.
Jacob was married to Anna Marie Gans. Dec 11, 1841 - Sept 28, 1896. She was born in
Dieburg Germany in Hesse Darmstadt area. I have the family birth/baptismal records from
St Peter and Paul Church in Dieburg which gave her parents names and town they lived in
before Dieburg. They did not send me marriage record so not sure if they were married
there. What I found fun was that descendant of theirs - Henry Hermann was monsenior at
St Peter and Paul church here in Indianapolis. I am almost positive he did not know about
his ancestors were from Dieburg. Now that I am looking info over again, I see her name
on census of 1860, 70 and 80 as Mary A. I am sure it is the family because in 1860
husband is Jacob and all the kids are right.
I have their first born son as Henry August Hermann Sr. Aug 23, 1839 - Nov. 22 1910. On
1860 census he was 21 and lists job as confectioner along with Valentine can't read
last name for sure. It doesn't list his parents and the whole part of census looks
like businesses. There are also several other names on it when I look at previous page of
census. However in checking 1860 census under his parents Henrick same age is listed
with them as confectioner as is his mother.
Our Henry born 1839 married Louisa A. Venemann (1841 - 1931) Jan 24th 1864. I know that
is right because of records and pictures we have.
Now I want to confirm that I have wife of Jacobs name right. We have her baptismal
record with the family and wrote to St Peter and Paul church with birth record and name of
Anna Marie. Family always referred to her as Anna Marie.
They did attend Holy Trinity church and someone as written to me that they contacted the
diocese to get birth records so will try that.
On
Ancestry.com, I found record of a J.H. Hermann b. 1804 that came through Baltimore
Maryland in 1834. Dates fit but am not positive this is our Jacob. I would like to find
document that give his middle initial.
We had a family reunion 2 years ago. Through amazing bits I was able to find movies at
the Indiana Historical Society that was taken my one of the uncles that was priest with
one of the first movie cameras - no sound though. It showed his travels which included
Europe in 1930's. There was images of soldiers marching around with armbands. Best
part though is whenever he got with family he took movies so there was ones of all these
people before my husbands mother was born 1937 and then after when she was just toddler.
We surprised everyone at reunion showing this video. It was so wonderful. Our oldest
uncle that was there was about 80 at the time and loved seeing his parents and
grandparents. We are having another reunion in couple of weeks. I had hoped to find
out where Jacob Hermann was from in Germany before that but have not. Now I am thinking I
need to get some of these details straight and can firm these up with Uncle Fred when we
see him.
Also have been wanting to search to see if any sblings of Jacob or his wife came to
America with hope of finding records of where they may have come from.
Thanks for any information you can share.
Marilyn Jacobs
Indianapolis, IN
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From: gkeusch <gkeusch(a)psci.net>
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Cc: jakesjag <jakesjag(a)aol.com>
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Subject: Herrmanns
Willard library does have Holy Trinity records, I don’t know how complete they are
though. My g grandfather was Jacob Zuber (1832-1911—from Otterstahl, Alsace, France
about 1850); he had two wives—Christiane Bangert and Hannah Gutekunst (Goodart) Anthis.
Hannah is my g-grandmother. Christiane was the d/o Johann Adam Gangert and Maria
Elizabeth Jaeger and was born in Hesse, Germany. Christiane had a sister—Anna Barbara--
who married a A. Charles “Karl” Hermann (1829-1894), son of Sebastian and Maria Ruchel
Hermann. Anna Barbara and Christiane had a double wedding on Jul 2, 1857 at Holy Trinity.
There was supposedly a picture made of the two couples which I would love to find, if
it exists. I don’t think it is with the Zuber side of the family. The Hermanns are
from Baden Germany. The Bangerts, Zubers, and Hermanns were Catholic and are buried at
St. Joseph Cem, in Evansville. St. Joseph also has records of their burials and are
helpful. You can google their phone number. Some of the surnames connected with Anna
Barbara’s children are Wolf, Pico, Kuebler. The Hermann name has also been spelled
different ways. To further muddy the waters, my g-grandfather, Jacob Zuber, had a
sister—Maria/Mary Ursula Zuber (1830-1907) who first married a Ludwig/Louis Fischer and
had children by him and then md a Heinrich/Henry Hermann (1832-1887). Henry was b. in
Baden, and I cannot connect him with Karl Hermann. But my Hermanns do not connect with
the candy Hermanns—to my knowledge right now.
It appears my lines when they first arrived in Eville did attend Holy Trinity,
which was a German Catholic church. They later went to the St. Boniface Catholic
Church on the west side. Also during this time frame there were two Mary Hermanns who
died in Eville—one lived in Dyersburg, TN, with a daughter—she was buried at St. Joe in
Eville (this one is mine).
Another Mary Hermann who died in Evansville in the Kasson area on Aug 11,
1904, aged 76. From the Evasville health dept I have-- Mary Herrmann, died Kasson, IN
(NW of Evansville), housewife, date of birth (5/6/1783 or 1883)-- this could also be the
date of death. She was 76 yr, 3 mos, and 5 days. If death date, she would have been
born Feb 1, 1807, born in Germany, married, husband was J. M. Herrmann, father was Koph,
Schaefer & Son mortuary. . I also found this gal in 1900 in Vanderburgh CO--
#56
John M. Herman Nov 1824 md 46 yr GER to US 1853
Anna M., wife May 1828 12ch/ 10 living GER to US 1846
The 1904 is not my Mary. I think we need to compare notes. I don’t know if this
1904 Mary connects with the candy Hermans or not. Helen Zuber Keusch
Eakins, Melton, Sandefur, Ford, Ezell, Handley, Duncan, Land, Edwards, Reeves, Crabtree,
Goodwin, Chapman, Zuber, Bangert, Gutekunst (Goodart), Anthis--my lines
Keusch, Zimmerman, Mehringer, Becher, Baumert, Schitter-Schuetter, Schmitt-Schmidt,
Hochgesang, Hopf, Burger, Hurst--hubby's lines