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Name: Gaw, Marguerit V. (Mrs. Willard)
Address: 210 E. Paris St.
City: South Bend
State: IN
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Source Date Published Article Type Section and/or Page
South Bend Tribune 01/13/1971
Name: Gaw, Willard C.
Address: 1922 E. Ewing Ave.
City: South Bend
State: IN
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South Bend Tribune 12/23/1940 2, p. 7
South Bend Tribune 12/24/1940 2, p. 9
Everything you have to know is at:
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Good luck in your research!
Joe Murnane
Wiliamson, NY
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I got 3 great replies that told me dates of death, etc. and how to search the South Bend death index in the Tribune News.
Can anyone tell me if the fee to have the gene society look up the obits is $10 per name? Or is is $10 for the hour for all 3 names? Especially if I have the dates in the paper, it should be fast.
Coleen
Michigan
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Surnames: Feeney
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Trying to find info that would tell me if Marguerite Gaw is nee Feeney, born in IL.
SSDI has born 28 Oct 1900 died Jan. 1971.
Can someone tell me if there is a library I can write to to find an obit.
Is there a death index any where to get exact date of death?
Are there cemeteries online?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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South Bend Tribune article
19 Oct 1969
Page 6
“Michiana”
Politics and Government Social Settlements
Philadelphia Industrial Assn.
Clip file at St. Joseph Co., Ind., Public Library, three pages.
Riding the crest of 19th century idealism, well over one hundred utopian communities flour*ished briefly in the United States and then ebbed as the pace of modem life made them seem irrelevant and even quaint.
Some communal experiments were religious in origin, while others were social and cultural. The Rappites and Owenites, respectively, represented the two approaches at New Harmony in Southern Indiana.
Almost forgotten is a communal society attempted in what is now South Bend, consisting of about 100 persons of various ages during 1845 and 1846. Two similar communal groups existed about the same time in Lagrange County.
The South Bend society, called the Philadelphia Industrial Assn., was organized in the winter of 1845. The group was headed by William McCartney, an early judge here, who served as its first president, and by William C. Talcott, its clerk or secretary.
The local society, which apparently was influenced by the thinking of the French philosopher, Charles Fourier, who lived from 1772 to 1837, obtained land for the project from McCartney. According to records of deeds at the Courthouse, McCartney signed an agreement on April 3, 1845, to sell farm land to the group for $5,000 in capital stock of the association.
The site of the farm is between Portage Hwy. and the St. Joseph River, north of Angela Blvd. and some distance south of what was then the town of Portage, adjacent to Pinhook Park. The farm was in German Twp., but the site now is in Portage Twp. and a part of South Bend.
A stream flowed through the farm. It originated near Kankakee Lake, the source of the Kankakee River near the present site of the airport, to the St. Joseph River. It was called Portage creek.
The prime mover behind attempts to develop the town of Portage was Elisha Egbert, who also was a judge and presided in South Bend's fugitive slave case.
Egbert also was McCartney's sometime son-in-law, according to social notices in old newspapers. The North-Western Pioneer and St. Joseph's Intelligencer, the city's first newspaper, reported his marriage on Nov. 16, 1831, to Eliza McCartney. A Dec. 4, 1846, newspaper reported that Egbert had married a Miss Mary Davis.
The old deed described the land as lying “on the west side of the St. Joseph River, and on the east side of the public road running from South Bend to Niles by way of Egbert Mill dam, said McCartney house, the old ferry at Portage and Bertrand, excepting so much of said tract of land as has heretofore been conveyed to Elisha Egbert for the purpose of a mill and water power.”
Although the records of the society's proceedings have long been lost. various county histories quote a report by Talcott, who later moved to Valparaiso, that there were approximately 70 members at one time and that for at least a while they took their meals communally.
The society cleared land on the firm and apparently sought to draw persons having various skills needed for communal life.
Its goals included education, as indicated in an advertisement printed in the St. Joseph Valley Register Feb. 13, 1846.
Plans for publishing a journal to fight for social change as well as "phonography," a science enabling persons to learn to spell in a few hours," are set forth in the ad.
It is not known if any copies were ever issued. At any rate neither the Northern Indiana Historical Society nor South Bend Public Library has any in its files.
The association seems to have had no relationship to the city of Philadelphia, but took its name from the same roots meaning “brotherly love." When a segment split off from the Rappite community, it per*haps significantly took the name of New Philadelphia Society .
Although from today's vantage point, going to live in a communal society may seem like a retreat from the world, it appeared quite different in 1845. With individual initiative, revolution and the pursuit of gradual change, it is recognized as one of four ways in which people sought the total reconstruction of society.
Fourier, who inspired the local experiment and who has been described as the French counterpart to Robert Owen, wrote that "the error of reformers is to condemn this or that abuse of society, whereas they should condemn the whole system of society itself, which is a circle of abuses and defects throughout." He believed his system would be demonstrated to be superior and that society would pass "from social chaos to universal harmony." Unlike Owen, however Fourier planned to retain the institution of private property.
At least 28 Fourierist phalanxes, as most of them were called, actually operated in the United States
between 1840 and 1850, and others existed on paper. The most famous was Brook Farm, organized in Massachusetts in 1841. Later many of the principles of Brook Farm were adopted by the Oneida Community in New York.
In the second year of its operation, the Philadelphia Industrial Assn. met with hard times. A dispute, apparently arose between McCartney and other members of the society.
McCartney himself had an interest in building a race to power a mill along the stream between Kankakee Lake and the St. Joseph River. He had been active in buying and selling land, along with three other members of his family. Thomas, Benjamin and James, apparently brothers, during the first decades of St. Joseph County settlement. Later he apparently had a son by the same name because he came to be referred to as William McCartney Sr.
He had been elected the first school commissioner! in German Twp., on Feb. 4, 1832, and later became a trustee of the St. Joseph Manual Labor Collegiate Institute, which was chartered by an act of the Indiana Legislature on Jan. 30, 1937. The institute, which was to have operated in the vicinity of the town of Portage, never came into existence except on paper, partly because of setbacks dealt to the town by the Panic of 1837.
The dispute with McCartney forced the association to look for a new site and must have had a demoralizing effect upon the members. Writing later, Talcott, blamed McCartney for its failure.
He charged that “Mr. McCartney violated his promise to invest his whole tract of land, and after we were fully organized and on the ground and ready to receive the title and use the land, he withheld all of the valuable and available portion, and turned us off with the broken, marshy land lying between the road and the river at $20 per acre, the appraised price of the entire tract.”
Although Talcott claimed that the association merely had cleared McCartney's land, benefitting the owner without fulfilling its objectives, the association’s activities did not come to an abrupt halt.
Another pioneer resident apparently came to the rescue. A deed was signed Feb. 9, 1845, by Samuel L. Cottrell, first sheriff of St. Joseph County, selling 40 acres of land in Greene Twp. to the association. Although the price was only $150, the association still was unable to survive.
The site of the second piece of land bought by the group is north of Madison Rd., and it is cut in two bv railroad tracks west of US. 31.
A native of Kentucky, Cottrell served as sheriff for five terms, three appointive and two elective, begin*ning in 1830. He is said to have been popular with the; Potawatomis and accompanied the Indian natives of, this area when they were moved to Kansas. .
Talcott signed another deed on Dec. 21, 1846, selling the land to Alfred R. Winter “by the special authority of the said association granted by vote at a meeting of said association held on the 24th Oct.
1846 as set forth in the record of the proceedings of said association. . .”
Thus ended the association's effort to improve society through communal effort. How many of its members remained and how many of their descendants still live here are interesting topics for speculation. The identity of most members other than the leaders is forgotten. The site of the community is not even marked by a sign. But to attract 100 persons to a communal life near South Bend in the 1840s was a considerable achievement.
McCartney’s name survives in the city as a street on the site of his farm and the low ground of which Talcott complained continued to be known as McCartney's Bottom into the 20th century.
Although evidence makes McCartney appear as a land speculator and Talcott blamed him for the failure of the community, a story told in Chapman's history of the county may reveal another aspect of his character. It is reported that in the winter of 1832, Jacob M. Whitmer, 3-½ years old, became lost and wandered for three days and two nights. After 200 searched for him and gave up, McCartney continued to search on horseback and found the boy alive.
Other communal experiments which have vanished include the Lagrange Phalanx, founded near Mongoquinong . (now Mongo ) in Springfield Twp., Lagrange County in 1844, and the Congregation of Saints, founded at Lexington, in Lagrange County in 1843. The former apparently was; Fourierist and the latter religious in motivation.
The greatest sucesses of the 19th century communal groups probably lay in the field of education, especially stressed by Fourier in his writings. More than a decade after the demise of the Philadelphia Industrial Assn., a Workingmen’s Institute was formed here in 1857.
This institute and a similar one in Mishawaka were part of a group of 114 libraries established in Indiana and 16 in Illinois through an endowment of $80,000 under the will of William Maclure, with Robert Owen one of the founders of New Harmony, where an institute continues to operate a public library todayday.
Many of the ideas spawned by communal groups -- especially in the field of education -- have outlived the groups that formulated them. Thus the South Bend experiment may be remembered as a noble failure, but a failure that was part of a movement that has continued to influence the whole world.
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I am looking for a William Draper who was once married to Maude and had a daughter by the name of Helen Emmeline. They had at one time lived in Elwood, Idiana. A divorce is possible, with William maybe moving to South Bend. Please contact me. Lisa
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Surnames: Tafelski, Switalski, Dlugosz, Dobrzynski, Zielinski, Bartol, Rymer, Andrzejewski
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I am looking for information on any of the following marriages, specifically to see if any of these people are related to Lawrence Tafelski (1865-1955) of South Bend:
Adalbert Swtalski and Rosalie Tafelski Switalski - their daughter Victoria Switalski married John Dlugosz (son of Theaphili Dlugosz and Michalina Kwlbasa?Dlugosz) at St. Casimir Church on 28 August 1906.
Joseph Dobrzynski and Apolonia Tafelski Dobrzynski - their son Stanislaus Dobrzynski married Marianna Zielinski (daughter of John Zielinski and Rose Grusczynski) at St. Casimir Church on 23 January 1912.
Thomas Bartol and Anne Tafelski Bartol - their daughter Frances Bartol Rymer married Michael Andrzejewski (son of Frank Andrzejewski and Frances Mikalojezak? Andrzejewski) at St. Casimir Church on 23 February 1925.
Any information anyone is willing to share would be much appreciated!
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Surnames: McCartney Crockett Appleby Rich Hill Klingel Cross
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Does anyone have a maiden name, parents for Louisa McCartney? Her mother was a Crockett. I'm also curious if any of her children married.
South Bend Tribune
1 Feb 1907
THE MORTUARY RECORD
Mrs. Louise McCartney
Mrs. Louise McCartney, a pioneer resident of this county, died at an early hour this morning at her home, 830 Forest avenue. Mrs. McCartney had been in ill health several months. She was 73 years old. She was the widow of James McCartney, and her mother was a sister to the late H.M. Shellim and Garett Crockett. Mrs. McCartney leaves one son, Charles, who makes his home at 830 Forest avenue.
The funeral will be held from the family residence Monday afternoon at 2 o'clock, Rev. M. H.. Appleby, pastor of the First Methodist church, officiating. The remains will be laid to rest in the city cemetery. Mrs. McCartney had lived in this city many years and possessed a most lovable disposition. She was a true christian and leaves a wide circle of friends and acquaintances.
[Louisa was born Jan 1834 in Ohio. She stated in 1900 South Bend, Ind., Census that she was the mother of seven children, with only one surviving. That would be her son Charles F McCartney. Other children included: Horatio B McCartney, Benjamin F McCartney, Edward J McCartney, Rhodes McCartney, Delana McCartney. Some of these may have married but I don't have that data yet.]
Last Will and Testament of Mrs. Louisa McCartney [Interesting excerpts]
10 Aug 1905
I, Louisa McCartney, of the County of St. Joseph, State of Indiana, being of sound mind and disposing memory, do make and publish this as my last will and testament, hereby revoking all former wills by me made.
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Second, I give and divise all the residue of my estate, both real and personal, to Sanford C. Rich, in trust upon the following trust conditions to wit; Said Sanford C. Rich my Trustee herein named, shall have charge and control of all my personal property and all of my real-estate, and shall as soon after my death as convenient convert all of my personal property into cash and shall loan the same on First real-estate mortgage security, at not less than the legal rate of interest provided by the State of Indiana. He shall look after my real-estate and rent the same, collect the rents, and use whatever may be necessary of the cash received from said real-estate and from the sale of my personal property in the payment of taxes and other assessments and in keeping up the repairs and insurance upon the dwelling upon said real-estate. My said Trustee shall take charge of my estate immediately after my death and shall not be required to execute any bond for the faithful performa!
nce of said trust, and shall continue said trust so long as my son, Charles McCartney, shall remain alive, and if during the continuance of said trust, the estate now in the hands of the Guardian of my said son, Charles McCartney, should not be sufficient for his reasonable maintenance, I hereby empower and authorize my said Trustee to pay any sum or sums of money necessary for the maintenance of my said son; but in no event shall he pay any money for such purpose until all of the estate of my said son has been exhausted.
Third. It is my will and I hereby direct that my said Trustee, together with Dr. J. W. Hill, shall look after and care for the welfare and keeping of my said son, Charles McCartney, after my death.
[Charles F McCartney died 03 May 1920 in South Bend, Ind., at age 61. Charles was probably mentally and/or physically handicapped. In the 1910 Census it notes that he was unable to read or write. In 1900 Louisia reported that he could read.]
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Fourth. Should my said son depart this life, before my estate is exhausted, then and in that event, it is my will that my said Trustee shall turn over to Dr. J.W. Hill, who has been for a great many years our family physician, and for whom I have great esteem and regard, all of the rest and residue of my property, of every kind and nature, remaining after my estate is fully settled, and all other provisions of this will have been complied with, which I bequeath and devise unto him, to be to him and his heirs forever.
[An obit for Dr. Jacob W. Hill appeared in the South Bend Tribune 02/24/1937 so he likely received his bequest from Louisa, if it's the same fellow.]
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Sixth. It is my will and I hereby direct that My Executor and Trustee shall arrange while renting and caring for my property, that a room be reserved in my dwelling on Forest Avenue, in the City of South Bend, Indiana, for the use of my said son, Charles McCartney, and that he shall not be compelled to move out of said house, so long as said property remains unsold.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal this the 10th day of August, 1905.
Mrs. Louisa McCartney [Seal]
Witnesses: Alford Klingel and Albert C. Cross
[A codicil attached to the will on 19 Sep 1905 changes some payment arrangements for the Trustee and frees him to use any attorney he prefers in the probate and settlement of the estate. She had originally named Daniel Rich as her attorney.]
reply to Donna Rush Moore: I have one family of Rush's in New Carlisle ,St.Joseph,IN
Leonard Rush and wife Jemima Hormell. Also have Lorinda Rush married to Joh=nathan Druliner and Louisa A. Rush married to Hiram Druliner. Most families stayed together in areas . so yoiu Might check the cemetery there. Im in Idaho so cant look for that.But you can probably get some one there to look Norrita in Idaho
Norrita in idaho
Researching MALM,McCALLA
ANDERSON,GUSTAFSON,NEWMAN
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THANK YOU DAN. THAT MUCH I HAVE. BUT STILL NEED THE CEMETARY THEY ARE BURIED .
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These are probably the 2 people you are looking for. These obituaries appearing in the South Bend Tribune. You can order copies of them from:
St. Joseph County Library
Local History
304 S. Main Street
South Bend IN 46601
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Name: Rush, Lucille (Mrs. Frederick E.)
Address: 1020 S. 30th St.
City: South Bend
State: IN
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South Bend Tribune 07/18/1983 p. 22
South Bend Tribune 07/19/1983 p. 21
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Name: Rush, Frederick E.
Address: Carlyle Nursing Home
City: South Bend
State: IN
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South Bend Tribune 01/30/1980 p. 24
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>From the social security death index
Lucille was born 8-5-1909
Frederick was born 11-23-1906
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Good luck
Dan Rich
In a message dated 10/21/2006 12:29:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Looking for family of Birth-dad-F.W. born in Ind. in the early 1900's. He
MIGHT have gone to a military school and been musical-maybe not--He probably
would have had Dark hair and eyes. Would he have been in Michigan in 1940???
Thankyou-Susan Patterson(TX.)
With a common surname like Williams, it's of course a whole lot more
difficult than with a less-common surname. However, you're in luck with a first name
like "Forrest", because it's more easily searchable. I did a search of the
1920 Federal Census for Forrest Williams at Ancestry.com, and found only one
person by that name in Indiana, b. 1906, and another in Michigan, b. 1915.
Neither was connected with St. Joseph Co., Indiana, the focus of this Internet
forum---but I'd be happy to help pursue this topic with you if you e-mail me
privately.
The 1930 census may yield more information---I took a glance at it, but went
no further. By 1930, unless he was born in the 1920s, he might have been
living on his own, away from his parents, so there'd be no point of reference, but
he most certainly is there, anyway. After 1930, there are no more censes
available.
I also searched the World War 2 Draft Card Registrations at Ancestry.com, and
did not find a suitable match.
I did not do a search for the alternative first name spelling, "Forest", but
something may well pop up there.
However, I'd be glad to help you as time permits, because I am searching for
my birth grandparents (my father was adopted into a Mishawaka family), and I
hope someone will assist me one day in the same manner. Also, my father, b.
1913, attended military school in the 1920s, and I know a bit about military
schools in the area. You might check the records of Culver Military Institute, a
very successful private school located in north central Indiana. There is
also a defunct school, Miami Military Institute in Ohio, which my father
attended in the mid-1920s. There may be some online records somewhere of this
academy. Wikipedia has an entry about this school.
I live in California now, and most of my research is online. If you have a
subscription to Ancestry.com, e-mail me and I can point you to the databases
where you can search. Also be aware of the fabulous free information at
USGenweb.org, for Indiana and Michigan. The St. Joseph Co., Indiana databases are
superb; perhaps the best in the nation.
I have accumulated a personal family tree of thousands of individuals, and
all of it came virtually online. I pride myself on my sleuthing skills. I'll be
happy to assist you to the limited extent which my time permits.
---Bob Robertson
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Was your grandfather Polish and lived in South Bend? If so, he is probably buried at St. Joseph Cemetery in South Bend, which used to be known as St. Joseph's Polish Cemetery. There is a book in the local history room at the downtown South Bend public library that was published in the 1970s or 1980s that has the cemetery pretty well indexed. You can also call the St. Joseph Funeral Home in South Bend and ask them to look up the cemetery record for you (the funeral home and cemetery are run by the same organization and all the records for both are at the funeral home).
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Looking for family of Birth-dad-F.W. born in Ind. in the early 1900's. He MIGHT have gone to a military school and been musical-maybe not--He probably would have had Dark hair and eyes. Would he have been in Michigan in 1940??? Thankyou-Susan Patterson(TX.)
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I LIVE IN NORTH CAROLINA.CAN SOMEONE HELP ME FIND OUT WHICH CEMETARY IN ST.JOE MY PARENTS ARE BURIED IN? THEIR NAMES WERE--- FREDERICK E. and LUCILLE RUSH.ALL I CAN REMEMBER IS THEY ARE BURIED IN A CEMETARY SOMEWHERE IN SAINT JOE COUNTY,I THINK. THANK YOU AHEAD OF TIME FOR YOUR HELP.
DONNA RUSH MOORE
Hi everyone!
Just wanted all of you to know that I will resume typing up the Newspaper Tidbits sometime in November. My work schedule changed so now I'm trying to find a good time to work on this project.
Its getting to the point where I need a couple of volunteers to go to the library and photocopy pages from the microfilm. This would be a once a month trip. If anyone is interested in helping, please contact me off list.
Thanks for your patience! :-)
Rick B
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I recently ordered a death certificate from the St.Joe Health Department for a person I am researching. I had the name (William JACOBSEN) and date of death, (12.Oct.1918) and the certificate number from the death index on ancestry... I paid $10 for the certificate and an additional $7 since it was for "genealogy"
FYI: they don't send you a copy of the death certificate!! You get a TRANSCRIBED version of what the death certificate says ! Every other death certificate (from IL, IN, MO, MI, etc) is a copy of the actual document...
Just thought I'd let folks know....
ALSO: turns out that this is NOT my family member ... so if anyone is researching this person, let me know:
name: William JACOBSEN\
dob: 16.Jan.1891 -- Copenhagen Denver (yep -- that's what it says!)
dod: 12.Oct.1918 - South Bend, Indiana
husband of Grace Jacobsen
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