Thanks, you know I looked at that census over and over--sometimes a fresh
eye. Anyway, yes, Jane and Lucinda are sisters. Jane Bush m. 1st
Christopher Bloomer and 2nd John Oldham. There is a John Bloomer with Jane,
widowed twice by 1850 living with Jane on the 1850. Then, John
disappears--at least as Bloomer. There is a John Oldham with a birth date
that looks right and I wonder if they are the same person.
Lucinda's marriage to Christopher was 25 April 1852 in Shelby county
The Christopher Stump married to Mary Elizabeth Bush is a first cousin to
the Christopher Stump married to Cynthia and then Lucinda.
Maybe the Mary Stump m. to Andrew J. Cayton is my Mary, daughter of Cynthia
Bush and Christopher Stump.
Yes, I saw the neighbors in the 1850--these families are all intertwined
but I haven't found Lucinda Stump anywhere on the 1870.
Thank you so much for setting me straight on the 1880. That really helps.
Kathy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Armstrong" <sarmstrongjjj(a)yahoo.com>
To: <inshelby(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:47 AM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [INSHELBY] John A. VERNON m Mary C. Who?
Kathy,
There is a marriage for John A Vernon and Mary C CARTWRIGHT on both April
12 and April 18, 1866 in Shelby County. Both records are in Book 8 pages
477 and 495 respectively.
In looking at the 1880 census, I noticed the original house number and
household numbers hasd been crossed out and renumbered below. If you look
at the original numbers you will se that Lucinda was not living in John's
household. John's house and household was listed as 136/136. Lucinda was
listed as 137/137. Also living in the house with Lucinda was a Jane
Blumer and her daughter Adda.
I believe Jane was probably a sister to Lucinda. There is a marriage for
a Jane Bush to a Christopher Bloomer Feb 1, 1835 in Shelby County.
Interesting,I don't find a marriage for Christopher Stump to Lucinda.
However there in one for a CHristopher Stump to a Mary E. Bush July 18
1860 in SHelby COunty and one for a Mary Stump to an Andrew J. Cayton on
July 25, 1860.
One other point. If you look for at the 1850 census you will see
thatJohn and Isabelle Cartwright are neighbors to Cristopher and Cintha
Stumps and the next household is a Samuel Moore. In the 1870 census John
Vernon is neighber to Samuel Moore.
Hope this helps,
Susan
"J. Kathleen Moore, MD" <jkmoore104(a)suddenlink.net> wrote:
Can someone clear something up for me? Bear with me I'll try to make my
problem clear.
I have a Cynthia BUSH b. c. 1824 m 12 January 1841 to Christopher STUMP
b.c. 1821 with children including
Mary C. STUMP b. c. 1842 Shelby Co., IN
After Cynthia died in late 1850, Christopher married her sister Lucinda
BUSH
I have Mary C. STUMP from the above relationship m. to John A. VERNON b.
about 1845 in Indiana with children Noah, Orval David, Anna B and William
H.
Notice that in the 1880 Census below, Lucinda BUSH STUMP is living with
John A. VERNON and Mary C. (who I thought was her stepdaughter, born to
Christopher STUMP and Cynthia BUSH)
1880 Federal Census, Moral Township, Shelby County, Indiana
ED 207 SD 3 page 25
Enumerated 16 June 1880 by Ensley H Stemley
193/194 VERNON, John A. WM 35 M Farming IN NC NC
Mary C. WF 34 Wife M Keeping House IN IN IN
Noah W. WM 12 Son S At home IN IN IN
Orval D. WM 11 Son S At home IN IN IN
Anna B. WF 7 Daughter S IN IN IN
William H. WM 5 Son S IN IN IN
STUMP, Lucinda WF 61 W Keeping House IN IN IN
Now, I found this Bio on the US Genweb Shelby County Website indicating
that John A. Vernon's wife is Mary C. CARTWRIGHT
>From the turmoil of war to the quiet and peaceful pursuit of farming was
>not such a far cry for John A. Vernon, one of the progressive and well
>known farmers of Moral township, Shelby county. He was born February 18,
>1845, in Hamilton county, Indiana, the son of Noah and America (Hennis)
>Vernon, well known at the time as early settlers of the Hoosier state.
>They were people of sterling qualities and were known to be both
>industrious and honest with all their neighbors. They moved to Shelby
>county, Indiana, when John A., their son, was a small child. They later
>moved to Tipton county, where they farmed and where they both died. After
>the father's death, in 1862, John A. Vernon returned to Moral township,
>Shelby county, and engaged in farming until 1863, in which year he decided
>to join the Union army in defense of the flag, consequently he enlisted at
>New Palestine in Company B, Ninth Indiana Calvary, as a private. He was
>but seventeen years of age at the time of h!
is enlistment, but although young in years he proved to be a gallant
soldier. His command was assigned to the Army of the Cumberland, under
General Wilson. During his early days as a soldier he was the victim of
sickness, and in April, 1864, he was sent to a hospital. Later he was
detailed as a nurse in the offices of the general hospital, where he ably
performed his duties. In the autumn of 1864 he was given a furlough home
from Nashville, Tennessee, for thirty days. At the end of that time he
returned to the hospital service, where he continued his work for some
time. In 1865 he served on different plantations in the South as a guard.
He finally received an honorable discharge on August 28, 1865. Having been
on detached duty so long he took no part in any of the great battles of
the war, but was in a number of skirmishes, principally with bushwhackers.
Completing his army service young Vernon returned home to the peaceful
pursuits of life and again resumed farming, which he has successfully
carried on ever since, now owning a good farm of forty acres, which he has
drained and improved and brought to a high state of cultivation. He
remodeled the dwelling and otherwise beautified the surroundings.
Mr. Vernon was married on April 18, 1866, to Mary C. Cartwright, who was
born in Moral township, February 1, 1846. She is the daughter of John and
Isovela (Oldham) Cartwright, both now deceased. They were married in
Virginia and were among the early settlers of eastern Indiana. George
Cartwright, brother of Mrs. Vernon, served in the Union army one year as a
member of Company I, Twenty-sixth Indiana Volunteers.
The following children have been born to Mr. and Mrs. John A. Vernon: Noah
W., who died September 20, 1903 and left surviving, as his only heirs, his
widow, Adda (Doty) Vernon, and three children, viz: Nina, Olive and Mary.
Orville D. lives in Addison township; he married Mana Huffman (deceased),
and two children were born to them, Arthur and Zaner. Anna B. Vernon
married Frank Mohr; they live in Moral township and are the parents of
these children: Hazel, Onie Belle, Clara Lucille and John. William H.
Vernon is deceased; he married Corda Smith and they became the parents of
these children: Roy, Merritt, Anna May, Arthur, Dorothy. John Elmer
Vernon, who lived in Brandywine township, married Maggie Mohr, and they
have two children, Ray and John S.
John A. Vernon and wife are members of the East Union Baptist church, and
the former is one of the trustees of the same, having long been an active
member of this congregation. In politics he is a staunch Prohibitionist,
and has worked in the interest of his faith for many years. He is a member
of Moral Lodge, No. 466, Knights of Pythias, and he assisted in organizing
this lodge, being a charter member of the organization. Mr. Vernon is also
a member of the Grand Army of the Republic, and is at this writing
commander of the local post. Both he and Mrs. Vernon number their friends
by the scores throughout the county as a result of the upright and
industrious lives they have lived.
Transcribed from Chadwick's History of Shelby County, Indiana. Pages 981-2
Surnames: Cartwright, Doty, Hennis, Huffman, Mohr, Oldham, Smith, Vernon,
Wilson
Contributed by Mary Harrell Sesniak
So, who is Mary C. STUMP married to and why is Lucinda BUSH STUMP living
with the VERNON's in 1880? And, just for good measure- Lucinda and Cynthia
BUSH's mother was Mary CARTWRIGHT married to Joseph BUSH.
Thanks for any help. Kathy Moore
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