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Surnames: PALMER, ASCHE
Classification: Query
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Dear Sheryl,
I've since found out that although my ancestor went by the name Sylvanus Palmer, He
was born JAMES Sylvanus Palmer, born 22 Aug 1853 Ripley Cty., IN, died 23 Feb 1931 Ripley
Cty, IN and buried at the Tanglewood Cemetery there. He was the son of John Palmer and
Samantha Nancy Dickerson Palmer. His daughter Rose Mae Palmer Asche was my great
grandmother, her daughter Clara Asche Lind my (maternal) grandmother, and her daughter
Carolyn Margot Lind Eisenschmidt my mother; I am her eldest daughter. You and I are
cousins once removed, as while he was your great grandfather, he was my great, great
grandfather.
Shortly before I moved from Ohio to Florida this Summer, I also visited the cemetery where
John Palmer and his wife are buried and contacted the Ripley County Indiana Historical
Society to see if any records identify which of the creek rock marked graves are theirs,
but was told no records exist. As you've probably also seen, it is a peaceful but sad
little remembrance of an old cemetery off the side of an old country road, with only a
small portion of the dead having gravestones with their names or initials on them.
There is and was no county "Larane" in Ireland; Coleraine used to be a county in
Northern Ireland, but is now a city in Londonderry. I have a death notice (and I believe
other papers) stating Blaney Palmer was born in county Tyrone, Northern Ireland, and died
a horribly painful, lingering death for years which the obituary termed "cancer of
the face". Although I have a copy of John Palmer's naturalization papers, it
only states he was born in Ireland and subject to Queen Victoria, sovereign of Great
Britain at the time of his immigration to America (1843 as you probably know) but the
papers do not state the county of his birth, nor do I have any other information about his
family members other than Blaney, his brother.
I knew "Palmer" is considered an English, not an Irish surname (and as you know
they've all been Protestants, not Catholics) and centuries before that was originally
a Norman-French surname (var. "Palmier/s/) but didn't know when his family left
England for Northern Ireland. I figured it was during the height of the 1600-1700's
"troubles" when many English and Scottish Protestants left their respective
countries and basically took over the homes and jobs of the Irish previously living in the
Northern part of that country, encouraged of course by the regents of England.
Does that cousin of yours who told you John's and Blaney's parents were from
England have a source for this? Do they have an additional information at all? I would
greatly appreciate your emailing or sending copies of the Palmer etc. genealogy and
pictures which you have to me, as I am missing quite a bit from James Sylvanus'
siblings, his children and their families, and even some of my grand aunts and uncles
(children of his daughter Rose Mae Palmer Asche and her husband Franklin Phillip Asche).
Rose's children's names were Fred, Oliver, James Theodore, Clara, Edward, Estol,
Elmira, Elizabeth, and Anna; only Elmira, Anna and (James) Theodore are still living.
I will try to send the pictures I have of any of these people to you via email (if your
email address listed here is current). I look forward to hearing from you!
Your Cousin,
Sherri Lynn Miller
cheresherri(a)adelphia.net