Oh yes you are correct a private individual can go to the courthouse and
accomplish the task of title searching. The records are open to the
public. You won't always get a county employee to spend more than a
fews minutes with you. It just depends on whether they want to spend
the time. I am surprised to hear all you had to do was the search
yourself and get it certified as to original copies. The person must
have paid cash for the parcel and there have been no mortgage involved.
Because a mortgagee now would not accept that title unless it was
certified by a title insurance company and the premium paid for
mortgagee insurance. Maybe indiana land transfers are way different
from Pennsylvania though.
WHen I worked in the courthouse I would help a great many people coming
in off the street and show them the correct books to use, explain the
Russell index system to them, explain what the easements, right of ways,
eminent domain proceedings. Tell them how to set up the chain of title,
so it flows correctly for them, explain how to read the wills in the
other office and why they had to. If you have days to accomplish this
it is extremely interesting. The more difficult parcels even
professionals can spend a week on. If you get one parcel now that
actually was originally from say 3 different deeds you must do 3 chains
of title for each deed backwards. That is the time consuming part. I
remember once a couple came in and wanted to run the chain of title to
see who had lived in the house about 100 years earlier because they
swear they had ghosts. They wanted to find the names to go find death
dates and wills, and go find their obituaries in the newspaper.
I am sure there is someone on this board who could accomplish this task
of title searching this tract of land if they put their mind to it.
Anyone up for it?
Lindsey
Will wrote on 11/30/2006, 9:21 PM:
A person can go to the Court house and trace land back to original
owner of the
land themselves. There are parcel #'s etc. plus names and addresses
of people
when they owned it, which makes this possible.
Besides when property is sold , it is in the Court house records from the
beginning as there has to have been TAXES paid on it etc..
This thing about Title Searches and paying big sums doesn't need to be
unless
something needs to be positively identified or some other intervening
problems
as in past, as of the owner's.
I traced a piece of land back I had and had Copies made and certified
at the
court house as Original records and didn't need any Title search at
all when I
sold it.
It isn't hard to do, just takes some time to go from the last owner
to the first
owner. Also can get copies of Taxes paid each yr. and who paid them.
Also so no
lien's etc. on it.
Well worth the time and small fee for certified copies. Some may take
more time
than other's depending on how many times it changed hands and the
reason's.
May take a few hours or a day depending.
Maxine Willma(a)sprynet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lampshire, Cathy" <clampshire(a)Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU>
To: <inrandol(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] question about cemetery
> Good to learn this things from someone with experience.
> Thank you for sharing with us.
>
> Cathy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: inrandol-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
> [mailto:inrandol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lindsey Finken
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:20 PM
> To: inrandol(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [INRANDOL] question about cemetery
>
> I was wondering that my self how a private individual could purchase
the
> land from the church. After many years if the church no longer is a
> functioning church under what jurisdiction did the church become, or
> what council? Even if the church was in disrepair and no one was
> looking after the cemetery part, who had the right to sell the church
> and surrounding property? There would have had to have been in the
> original land description that a cemetery was contained within the
> grounds and not be disturbed (called a deed restriction where I come
> from). Meaning the property couldn't be resold and have the cemetery
> disturbed.
>
> Since I don't know the area and haven't seen the deed it is hard to
> guess. My one guess would be that there is no restriction within the
> deed which prohibits the destruction of the cemetery area. My other
> guess would be MOnisa stepped in at the right time and warned the
> officials that the owner was going to put a septic tank on the cemetery
> grounds.
>
> It also could have been land owned by an individual and the parcel was
> leased to the church for say 50 years and the descendants of the
> original owner sold the parcel.
>
> It would be interesting to see the chain of title on this parcel to
> figure it out. Yes it would cost alot to have the title searched
unless
> someone already knows which atty/title company had it done and could
> get a copy of it. But it probably would still cost something.
>
> That is my background title searching in case you all are wondering.
>
> Lindsey
>
>
>
> Andrea - Genealogy wrote on 11/30/2006, 5:22 PM:
>
> > OOOOhH, that's a good question. Maybe Lindsey can answer this type
> of > question about if a cemetery is listed on a deed in general. I
> know that > the current owner has not had it all that long. I
think he
> just wants to > farm it. The fellow who wanted to build the house
> there would of been > before Monisa left from the health dept and I
> don't really know when that > all happened, nor do I know who owned
> during all the other years, and it > would probably cost a bit to find
> out.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > When was the land sold that the cemetery & church were located on ?
> When > did the church sell the land? Is the cemetery listed on the
deed
> ?.
> >
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