Judy,
I understand what you are saying, but not only did the book of emigration
showing they arrived on that specific ship in 1852, but even the 1900 census shows Joseph
and Jule as arriving in 1852 too. Now Josephine was still alive and in cnsus shows just
above Joseph and says 1842 but that is definitely in error since shows 48 yrs in states
and Joseph also shows as 48yrs in state. I never got hold of the Naturalization papers
for Joseph to see when it stated he had entered, though -- one of my "to do"
projects. So since the ship papers plus 1900 census state 1852 I would think that would
be correct and the birthdate of her is one year later in 1853 and not 1852. I don't
think I ever found or verified that she indeed was born in first part of 1852, either.
Now it is true the Harbaville's came in 1851 -- and again census shows this to be true
immigration date for them -- so had always been my understanding that the Harbaville's
came a year earlier than the Etienne family.
I never really researched this fully since not a part of my family line -- just try to
keep track of the various Perry and Spencer (and Gibson Co) family persons and when they
came to states, to the county, etc.
Now if you really found the birth record, are all the records around that record the same
year? Sometimes families back then would have a bunch of kids recorded at same time and
went by "memory" not so much as a doctor saying this was actual date of birth,
etc....
Anyway, that is why I stated the ship records and date of immigration both as 1852 year.
Judy M.
Thanks for your info. It is interesting that so much data can be
wrong with what is supposed to be accurate records.
First, they arrived in the US in 1851 not 1852. This is evidenced by the fact that they
had a child very soon, if not upon their arrival in Derby. That child was Rosa and she
was not listed as being onboard in your listing. The mother-in-law was found dead on the
river boat upon arriving at Derby on January 6, 1852. Her last name was Harbaville.
Jules (the listing for Juli) was a male and the ancestor of
literally dozens of residents of Perry County (if not hundreds!)
Anyway, the gist of the information is probably correct, but there always
seems to be a fact or two which does not seem to match.
Chuck Etienne