Angela has helped to clarify what I am seeking, "legal authority to probe"
which should be goal of all. Hopefully the DNR will give the INPCRP and
township trustees the same information so we might all be on the same page
in Indiana when it comes to probing.
It is my desire to do all cemetery work carefully and properly. When doing
so we should be honored and respected. I shouldn't feel as if I'm doing
something illegal, be trained to do something illegal or show others probing
and in the process contribute to perpetuating the issue.
Mark Kreps
Muncie, IN
mjkreps(a)tmcsmail.com
-------Original Message-------
From: INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:07:52 AM
To: INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] probing
Jack and Mark,
I was always told that probing is illegal. Period. I was also told that the
DNR didn't want to know about it if we were probing. I have also heard that
getting permission from the township trustee was fine too. I think it would
be all quite simple if we could just get a permit to probe so that we are
legal. It takes the guesswork out of it, and then we don't have to worry
about it.
As for saying that "probing for 'artifacts' implies that you want it for
personal use.etc.." that is an interpretation of the law. We either need
legislation or a permit that gives us legal authority to probe - it needs to
be that cut and dry. So I understand Mark's feelings about probing in front
of 100's of people drivng by.
Angela Tielking
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jb502000(a)aol.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:07 AM
Subject: [INPCRP] (no subject)
We have been thru this before. Probing for "Artifacts' implies that
you want it for your personal use, or swap meet, or sell to someone. We
Probe
down here in Floyd County to find the "Broken Pieces" only
to repair a
stone, or
stones and for no other reason. We were told if we had a letter from
the
Twp.
Trustee to find and repair the stones we were covered legally. That
is
because the Trustee is Responsible for the cemeteries and their condition
and they
certainly cant find the time to do the job themselves, so they must
designate a
responsible party to do it for them.
It's for darn sure If members of the INPCRP cant probe, who
else
knows enough about the care necessary to do it safely. I pointed out
that
if
I cant Probe, and have to submit a probing plan every time I work on
a
cemetery, then My volunteering is over and the cemeteries I have found can
go back
to their former state. You should know how to be careful probing, and
digging
around the piece, or pieces so as not to further damage them. If you
don't
know, then you should accompany someone from the INPCRP and learn.
I probed for broken pieces in California and started when I came
back
to Indiana late 1995. I feel I know how by now. Its for darn sure
just
anyone
cant take a probe and a shovel out and start. They need guidance. You
can
do
as you wish about "Probing," I don't know how much you
know about it. I
have
stopped people who came out and was going to help me. I told them
that if
they
wanted to learn, work with me and help until I was satisfied they
knew
what
they were doing.
Some wont agree with me, but one thing is for sure, you cant just start.
Really, the Legislature needs more protection laws for our cemeteries than
just
"Probing".
Jack E. Briles Sr.
Floyd Co. Cord. INPCRP
Po Box 444
New Albany, In 47151-0444
IC 14-21-1-26
Disturbance of grounds for purpose of discovering artifacts or burial
objects
Sec. 26. (a) A person who disturbs the ground for the purpose of
discovering
artifacts or burial objects must do so in accordance with a plan
approved
by
the department under section 25 of this chapter or under IC
14-3-3.4-14
(before its repeal).
(b) A person who recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally violates this
section commits a Class A misdemeanor.
As added by P.L.1-1995, SEC.14.
Jack
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