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#1 Re: [INPCRP-L] HB 1184, cemetery s [Pride1jw(a)aol.com]
#2 Re: [INPCRP-L] HB 1184, cemetery s [Sue Silver <ssilver1951(a)juno.com>]
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I know this is currently the case in Pike Co. Ruth Pride Wheatland
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:01:58 EST
From: Sue Silver <ssilver1951(a)juno.com>
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Subject: Re: [INPCRP-L] HB 1184, cemetery survey.
This from your California friends...
The USGS survey maps used to show all the cemeteries the government
surveyors found. It seems sometime after 1949, they started dropping the
cemeteries off the quadrangle maps (as well as some other features). We
have tried to track down old USGS maps to locate cemeteries we are no
longer able to find (our county, El Dorado, where gold was discovered,
has "lost" about 40 cemeteries known to have existed).
Some of our early tax assessment maps also showed the cemeteries. The
more we look for maps that show them, the more we've been able to find. >Especially
the Townsite Maps when the townsites were surveyed for
patenting.
Hope this helps. In the meantime, we have asked our county to "flag"
parcel numbers if that parcel contains a cemetery. We are constantly
updating that list, but the county gives us no help. It's up to us to
determine which parcel the graveyard is on. Still, the building
department can issue no permit until someone physically visits the parcel
to see the location of the cemetery to where someone wants to build.
Good luck!
Sue Silver
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:22:33 EST KidClerk(a)aol.com writes:
>Sorry gang, should have included this in my previous post...
>
> I'm not sure how the best way to handle this would be, but I guess
>>I'm >>just concerned as to why many of these cemeteries aren't
already being >>shown >>on surveys. My lending institution has required a
survey of every >>piece of >>property I've ever purchased. Many times
this is an un-staked survey, >>
>meaning the private surveyor only draws a map and shows the property >>boundries
and any encroachments. I would think that if someone had a >>cemetery in a housing
area, it would be shown on a survey if it's >>known it is >>there.
I'm not sure how larger tracts are handled, such as >>farmground.
>>Global Positioning is an option to locate, but I don't believe is a
>>legal >>form of property description. >>
> I would think that a beginning point would be to go to the old >>maps and
>>deed records in all counties to try and determine many of these
>>cemeteries, >>since many times the land was set aside as an official
cemetery. Even >>though >>the hopes that it would be continued as such may
have faded a few >>years >>later, many times they were optimistic enough to
have a deed recorded. >> Old >>county maps were also excellent sources for
locating these old >>cemeteries. >>Now my quesion....who should be the
agency/organization to glean this >>information from the county records? (in those
counties that it hasn't >>been >>done yet) Granted, a volunteer effort by
county historical societies >>and >>organizations will have mixed results, but
it may be better than >>nothing at >>all. I guess I just don't see the
DNR having the resources to >>identify these >>cemeteries statewide...not in
this decade, anyway. Please don't get >>me >>wrong...I think this
legislation is wonderf!
ul and long overdue. Our >>first >>priority
should be the protection of existing cemeteries from further >>destruction. Next,
we can work on the identification, and then let's >>work on >>preservation
and restoration...hopefully with state assistance in >>funding. I >>see no
reason why some of our state's lottery/river boat money can't >>be put
>>to good use here. >>
> My thanks to Cheryl, Lois, and everyone else who works so hard
on >>this >>and who make up for those of us who can't seem to make it to
Indy to >>help. >>If you run into any concerns from the Co. Recorders on this
issue and >>would >>like to have someone talk to them, please contact me. I
sit on the >>Board of >>Directors of the Association of Indiana Counties with
their >>association >>president and will be happy to see what I can do.
>
>Kyle D. Conrad
>Clerk of the Newton Circuit Court
>
>
>
>==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
>THIS IS A CEMETERY -----
> "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families
>are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is
>undisguised. This is a cemetery.
> "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence,
>historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched.
> "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved
>in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life -
>not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family
>memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living.
> "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of
>yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery
>exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always."
> --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, >>IA
>
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