Feel free to use any or all of this at your meeting Thur. Will be
anxious to hear your report. The best to all of you.
Natalie
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:06:50 -0500 "Natalie F. Robling"
<nrobling(a)juno.com> writes:
Ernie, Connie, and Angela,
Yes, I have heard of surface coal mining in several cemeteries in
Pike
County, Indiana.
No, I have not seen it happen as they will not allow spectators,
family,
or no one except the mortician, people doing the digging, the coal
company, and maybe the land owner (not sure about the latter one).
Yes, I went to court as well as 10 others to keep the coal company
from
digging up the cemetery all to no avail. It seems the owner wanted
the
coal money and that was more important than keeping the cemetery.
We
lost the battle and the cemetery is now gone.After all, they said
they
could move the cemetery to another place. Yes, they did that after
a
fashion. You want the gory details. They would not allow anyone
nor
even the great grandson of the oldest civil war veteran buried there
to
be present. I asked. I was told that the backhoe dug and scooped
up a
shovel full and put it in a plastic container like one gets at
Walmart or
K-Mart. Then the tombstones were removed and some went to one
cemetery
and some went to another one. At Atkinson Chapel where our
relatives
were interred, they poured a large slab of concrete and set all the
stones on it. It had not rained for weeks so the dirt was very dry
in
the cemetery. I have been unable to find a person to tell me that
yes,
they did bury the plastic containers.
Lucky for me, my friend took pictures of this cemetery which showed
most
of the stones, 13 in number. However, there were 14 bodies as 2
children
were buried in the same one. The owner of the land told the judge,
lawyer, and those in attendance that he "guessed there were one or
more
tombstones." Lucky, I showed the judge, lawyer, and finally the land
owner the pictures. The Civil War great grandson, Bernard
Witherspoon,
and Merle Peachy also testified. However, the all mighty dollar
won.
Marada and Bill Willis took 20 petitions to stores in Petersburg and
got
more than 267 signatures, in less than a week, against the coal
company
mining the cemetery. If we had taken them door to door, we could of
tripled the number of signatures. Again, the all mighty dollar won.
The name of this cemetery, Wallen/or Robling Cemetery in Logan
Township
in Section 26 was 2 miles SE of Oatsville, Indiana, and was on the
maps.
It was moved April 1998. There were more than 13 graves as there
were
many sunk in places indicating a grave. I wish I had counted all of
them. It was reported to the newspaper by the coal company there
were 10
names.
The 100 feet away from a cemetery did not help as this did not
become law
until after the cemetery above was dug up and moved.
Progress and money seems to be the answer. Taking away the rights
of the
ones interred is not progress, especially when they can not speak
for
themselves. Now that more people are searching for their ancestors,
and
traveling miles to see where they lived plus their place of
interment, it
is important to view the cemetery as was plotted. So much can be
gained
by looking at the burials around one's family, for more than likely
they
will be relatives. What bothers me mostabout private landowners,
industry, and coal companies moving cemeteries is there will soon be
NO
record of those living in the 1700's, 1800's, and even early 1900's.
It's time Indiana had a change on the law books concerening these
vanishing cemeteeeries. Maybe Indiana needs to look at Iowa as to
how
they passed legislation to preserve pioneer cemeteries on all
property,
not just farmland. An awareness of our heritage lies buried without
a
voice in our rural cemeteries. It's the choice of the people of
Indiana,
and the lawmakers, to save cemeteries or let them be destroyed.
There are 12 cemeteries in Pike County that are no longer in the
place
where they started. If one goes to INPCRP Hall of Shame for Pike
County,
the 12 that were moved are listed. The earliest one, Dedman #2 was
moved
in 1925 and 1930, Debruler in 1969, Wyatt in 1970's, Simpson in
1975,
Robinson, Cox, and Rhodes in 1980, Rumble in 1990's, Battles in
1994,
McGillum in 1997, Wallen/Robling in 1998, and Fan Todd was stripped
mined
but not sure of what year. The Brenton Cemetery, which makes #13,
was
destroyed as that area has all been mined.
Another cemetery in Section 26 of Logan Twp. will be at danger
soon.
This is 1 and 1/2 miles SE of Oatsville. They advertised in last
week's
paper, Press Dispatch, that they will be mining in certain parts of
Sections 26, 27, and 34 which completely surrounds Barnes Cemetery
on
three sides. This cemetery is on a slight hill which is also on the
maps
in Logan Township. If they mine around it, the stones will be
split and
broken from the explosives used. There are 34 stones and two others
are
buried there without tombstones as found in their obituaries. One
of the
two is a relative of my husbands. There is a Civil War Veteran
buried
there with a tombstone.
They tried moving DeJarnett Cemetery which had 43 tombstones in
Section
17 and Loveless Cemetery in Section 18 which had 123 tombstones and
9
others according to obituaries. Both of these were in Logan Twp.
With several
expensive
breakdowns, they left it and went around it. Today that is one of
the
most peaceful spots in the township and the road the coal company
put in
after mining was a winding one which adds to the scenery. A good
example
that they can go around a cemetery.
Good luck to all in Indianapolis.
Natalie Robling
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:03:46 -0500 Ernie & Connie Lasley
<elasley(a)sigecom.net> writes:
> Problems will arise if the cemetery is virtually unknown but to a
> few, and
> not on any maps. I have not seen any problems with known and
> mapped
> cemeteries, usually the coal mines (around here, anyway) steer
clear
> of
> them by much more than the required 100 feet. If a cemetery is
> overgrown,
> has few or no remaining stones, and is not on a State list or map,
> it may
> be in danger. If the coal company or the regulatory agencies are
> not aware
> of it, it will not be planned/mined around. This also stresses
the
>
> importance of completing the State DNR Cemetery Registry.
>
> Ernie
>
> At 10:25 AM 07/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > From what I understand in the permits and in the law it can be
> done only
> > 100 feet away from a cemetery - (this isn't a very far
distance.)
> >Donna
> >
> >GTielking wrote:
> >
> > > Hello. Has anyone heard of surface coal mining being done in a
> cemetery
> > in Indiana? I know we want mining prohibited in cemeteries, but
> has
> > anyone seen this happen? Has anyone had to fight to keep it from
> happening?
> > > We are getting our legislative packet ready and I would like
to
> have
> > example(s).
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help,
> > > Angela Tielking
> > >
> > > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> > > If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to
> > LoisMauk(a)usa.net.
> >
> >
> >==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> >THIS IS A CEMETERY -----
> > "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families
> >are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is
> >undisguised. This is a cemetery.
> > "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence,
> >historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched.
> > "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved
> >in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life -
> >not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for
family
> >memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living.
> > "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of
> >yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery
> >exists because every life is worth loving and remembering -
> always."
> > --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West
> Union, IA
>
>
> ==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to
> LoisMauk(a)usa.net.
>
>
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