oh, fine. LOL. i can see this is going to be fun! this whole region is filled with
basalt rocks just below the surface. i pull out a dozen ranging from fist-size to
shoebox-size every time i plant a perennial in my garden!
-----Original Message-----
From: ejw13(a)ccrtc.com
To: INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] probing with steel rod
Scot:
Just wanted to tell you that sometimes you might just find a
rock. When I probe and strike something...you can tell the
difference in the sound of a stone and a tree root. One
might be a thud and the other a tink sound. Also there are
times it could just be a rock. I find that if you do hit a
stone (rocks and bricks also sound like a stone), I again
probe around it in a circle about 2" from the first strike.
We have found good sized cemetery stones 12-18" below the
ground but the average is only 2-6" depends on the soil.
Have fun.
Joan Wray
Tipton County Indiana
----- Original Message -----
From: <scotstout(a)aol.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] probing with steel rod
hmmm... i sometimes work out with a contractor at my gym,
so i'll talk to him about getting one. he might give me a
good price!
i just received an e-mail from a local woman who has a plat
map i can copy. that will help narrow down the search for
buried stones -- no use in looking where there are empty
plots. it'll also help with knowing where we can safely
mow!
scot
-----Original Message-----
From: ohiobuck(a)sbcglobal.net
To: INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] probing with steel rod
I picked mine up at a local sewage contactor. When they
learned what I planned
to use it for (as well as not being able to determine the
price of the probe),
they gave it to me.
Cathi
"L.A. CLUGH" <clugh_la(a)msn.com> wrote:
Scott and list,
I have two thoughts here to share.
1. It's one thing Scott to help clean up and put stones
back up where they belong. It's another one to disturb the
ground by digging in a cemetery. This is where the probes
are helpful in locating the missing pieces or complete
stones
where you find spaces open. This is also the are you need
to have that signed permission slip from the Trustee
or permit from the DHPA. I hope you already know this.
Most of the time the missing pieces are only 2 to 6 inches
under
ground. And yes, you do need to probe with ease. All soils
are
different. The project I'm working on has soil with a lot of
gravel under the surface. It's hard to push the probe in
very far.
We have found it's easier to do this after a big rain, or do
all this
locating work in the early spring when the soil is very
soft.
Once you have dug out any missing pieces, it's important to
replace that
soil around the area you dug out. Walt has taught us to use
a canvas or
tarp to hold on to all the dirt you dig out. That way it
will all be there
when your done. Replacing the grass fragments on top so they
can
grow again. If you think about all this first, it will save
you headaches
later. You don't want to leave any low areas the mowers
wheels can fall
into and do more damage to stones. Or any holes someone can
twist a foot
into and get hurt later.
2. My probes are homemade. But others have seen them in
hardware
stores in the area. You should ask for Tile Probes.
Contractors
will use them to find the sewer lines and broken tiles.
Just go easy and make sure you have the whole tombstone area
located
(like all the edges) before you start digging.
There is always more to learn, thank you for asking.
This is why there are two workshop each year. There is more
to
this restoration than you can learn in one trip. Heck I've
been
to at least 20. If you want to do it right, you have to
learn
all you can. The workshop are very affordable workshop. I've
seen others
that cost over $600.00 + room and travel.
LA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Green"
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] probing with steel rod
Sure will.
Got ours here: Forestry Suppliers:
http://www.forestry-suppliers.com/
Also should have them here:
http://www.benmeadows.com/home.htm
Regards,
Rich Green
Historic Archaeological Research
----- Original Message -----
From: Sheila Rooker
To: INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] probing with steel rod
Rich,
Do you want to share with everyone where we might purchase
one of
these probes?Sheila
Rich Green wrote:
The probes designed with a ball tip are designed slightly
larger in
diameter at the business end creating an enlarged pathway
for
the shaft of
the probe. The only resistance to insertion is the ball
tip
itself. A
probe like this is very easy to push through even the
hardest
ground
because there is no friction along the long axis of the
probe.
Obviously, the ball tip is less likely to damage material
it comes in
contact with, both because it requires less force to
insert and
because it
is a smooth spherical surface rather than a sharp pointed
one.
Rich Green
----- Original Message -----
From: Jackbriles(a)aol.com
To: INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] probing with steel rod
Scot
I'm not the sharpest tack in the box, but I use a pointed
probe, (The
part
of the state I live in you have to) but if I ever pushed
hard enough to
chip or
crack a piece of buried tombstone rather than push slowly
and gently,
not
knowing how deep it is, I believe I should quit probing
altogether.
Jack E Briles Sr
Floyd Co. In.
_jackbriles(a)aol.com_ (mailto:jackbriles@aol.com)
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