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Dear Kyle:
This site is a children's playground, specifically a baseball field. There are
photos of the memorial marker in the corner of the property and what additional
information I have available to me at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~incccpc/civilwarcem.html
This site was very near the Civil War hospital in Jeffersonville and the dead
were buried here. The dispute, however, is whether or not the remains were
ever removed to another area cemetery (presumably "Walnut Ridge Cemetery").
Some sources say they were moved; others say they were not.
There were also many (perhaps several hundred) pre-Civil War burials in this
area, presumably moved to this site after creation of the city of
Jeffersonville (established 1801, I believe). As I recall, many remains were
moved from a riverside burial site that was exposed during a great flood early
in that century to "higher ground". See additional info at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~incccpc/jeffoldtowncem.html
General George Rogers Clark's encampment on the banks of the Ohio was a mile or
so away from this site. Presumably some of his men may be buried here as well.
Lois
> Lois:
>
> Good to hear from you again!
>
> Just a quick question. If occupied graves are discovered, it sounds from
> your message that they will be left there and changes made to the construction
> plan accordingly. But will all bodies be exhumed for study before being
> returned or will they just proceed to acknowledge their existence and keep them
> in
> their final resting place?
>
> Kyle
Lois:
Thanks for the info. I guess my only concern goes back to previous
experiences where the remains were removed for 'scientific study' and then it almost
took an act of congress to get them out of bankers boxes and reinterred... (you
know where I'm going with this)
It doesn't bother me so much that they are in a park or that there's a
baseball field there, as long as the site is marked (which it is) and the bodies
remain as undisturbed as possible.
It's a fascinating aspect of your local history and for those who are
interested in the civil war as well.
Kyle
A nice article on the work Mark Kreps and the Delaware county cemetery
restoration group is doing in their county. http://www.thestarpress.com/
Nice work Mark. I hope to be there for the re-dedication
UEB
WWW.HCGS.NET
INPCRP
As I walk the trail of life, in the fear of the wind and rain,
Grant O' Great Spirit that I may always walk like a man.
Lois:
Good to hear from you again!
Just a quick question. If occupied graves are discovered, it sounds from
your message that they will be left there and changes made to the construction
plan accordingly. But will all bodies be exhumed for study before being
returned or will they just proceed to acknowledge their existence and keep them in
their final resting place?
Kyle
Next week, PBS is airing a show on cemeteries across the United States' from
Key West to Central Alaska'. This link has a description and a link to see
when it airs on your local PBS station. Great to see this kind of
documentary, but it's discouraging that they choose week of Halloween to
air--
Cindy
http://www.pbs.org/pbsprogramclub/programpick3.html
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From the 10/18/2005 Jeffersonville Evening News (Clark Co., IN):
Downtown park to be checked for Civil War gravesites
By LARRY THOMAS, City Editor, Evening News
Archaeological work in Jeffersonville's Colston Park on Wednesday could
determine whether old graves are close to the Indiana approach to the
proposed downtown Ohio River bridge.
In August, instruments such as ground-penetrating radar indicated
disturbances in the soil in the western part of the park, indicating the
possibility of grave shafts there, said Jeff Vlach, environmental
commitments manager with Community Transportation Solutions.
"We're going to do some mechanical excavating ... to confirm or deny the
existence of graves," Vlach said Monday.
A historical marker at the park indicates Confederate and Union soldiers
buried there were not moved before the park was founded in 1920, but U.S.
government records state the human remains were moved.
The grounds were used as a city cemetery as early as 1807, according to the
Ohio River Bridges Project Web site.
The proposed bridge approach will not take any part of the old cemetery, but
state law requires that disturbances within 100 feet of cemeteries include
plans to mitigate encroachment.
Vlach, whose company is managing the Ohio River Bridges Project, said the
August survey "just showed variations in the soil density that indicated
that there might be grave shafts."
Evening News Contact: Larry Thomas at lthomas(a)news-tribune.net
SO YOU KNOW:
Beginning at 10 a.m. Wednesday, Oct. 19, archaeologists will search for
grave sites at Colston Park in Jeffersonville. A portion of the park once
served as a Civil War and city cemetery, dating to 1807. If graves are found
within 100 feet of the proposed Indiana approach to the downtown Ohio River
bridge, an encroachment plan must be created to mitigate the bridge's impact
on the cemetery. For more information, visit the Bridges Web site at
http://www.kyinbridges.com
=================================
FROM http://www.kyinbridges.com:
BRIDGES PROJECT STUDIES FORMER CIVIL WAR CEMETERY
On Tuesday, Aug. 30, consultants working on the Ohio River Bridges Project
initiated an archaeology study to determine if there are any burial remains
at Colston Park, a former Civil War and city cemetery in downtown
Jeffersonville. Although the Bridges Project will not take any part of the
cemetery, Indiana law mandates that disturbances within 100 feet of a
cemetery require the preparation of a development plan to address the
encroachment.
"This study is very important to ensure that any project work does not
disturb any existing remains at Colston Park. Our goal, and the goal of
Indiana and Kentucky officials, is to minimize the impact of the Bridges
Project on historic resources in the community," commented Jeff Vlach,
Environmental Commitments Manager with Community Transportation Solutions
(CTS-GEC), the General Engineering Consultant on the Bridges Project.
A historical marker at the park describes the cemetery and indicates that
the buried Confederate and Union soldiers were not moved before the area
became a park in 1920. United States government records contradict that,
however, and denote that the bodies were moved. Also, local records
indicate that the area served as a city cemetery as early as 1807. Thus,
further study to delineate the western boundary of the cemetery is needed.
The consultants used above-ground, non-invasive instruments that employ
magnetic and electrical resistivity methodology to determine if there are
grave shafts. The instruments detect soil that has been removed and
replaced because it is not as compact, or dense, as the soil surrounding it.
Colston Park is located just east of I-65 and north of Market St. in
downtown Jeffersonville. It can be accessed at the intersection of Mulberry
and W. Chestnut streets.
Historic preservation personnel from CTS-GEC are overseeing the
investigation. Consultants from the ASC Group, Inc., and Ohio Valley
Archaeology Consultants, Ltd., cultural resource management firms based in
Ohio, will be executing the field studies. The project team is coordinating
this effort with the City of Jeffersonville and historic preservation
officials with the Indiana Historic Preservation Office, Indiana Department
of Natural Resources and the Indiana Department of Transportation (INDOT).
The Bridges Project public involvement effort includes Historic Preservation
Advisory Teams in each state. Project team members meet with the groups
regularly to review project work and ensure that historic mitigation
measures are being addressed properly.
E-mailed my daughter who lives in Alabama not far from there to see if she
heard anything.
Following is her reply:
Haven't heard anything like that - I'm sure there would be a huge
uproar if they tried. I can't imagine them getting away with
something like that. Will let you know if I hear anything.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Goode" <banshe8(a)insightbb.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Civil War cemetery in Tenn.
> There was a segment on CBS Sunday Morning this past Sunday about the book
> "Widow of the South" which is about the lady who created a cemetery on her
> property after the Civil War by reintering bodies of soldiers who were
> buried on an adjacent property where the battle was fought. The owner of
> that property was going to plow over the graves. This was a couple of
years
> after the Civil War. The lady's home was used as a field hospital during
and
> after the battle and she was profoundly effected by the experience. She
made
> creation and maintenance of the cemetery her life's work. The book is a
> novelized story of her efforts. According to the segment, the cemetery is
> not in jeapordy of development, but the adjacent battlefield, which is now
a
> golf course is. Bob Goode
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angela" <atielking(a)insightbb.com>
> To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:16 PM
> Subject: [INPCRP] Civil War cemetery in Tenn.
>
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> >
> >
> > My husband heard from a friend that a Civil War cemetery in Franklin,
> > Tennessee is in jeopardy of being developed over. Yes, I mean over. They
> > will not remove the bodies. Has anyone heard anything about this?
> >
> > Angela Tielking
> >
> >
> >
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Hello everyone,
My husband heard from a friend that a Civil War cemetery in Franklin,
Tennessee is in jeopardy of being developed over. Yes, I mean over. They
will not remove the bodies. Has anyone heard anything about this?
Angela Tielking
Anyone heading to Olkahoma?
Here is another workshop and some other
sites listed below.
LAC
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Cemetery Preservation Workshop in Oklahoma
>
> From: Dittmar, Frederick M.
> DearMYRTLE,
> As a part of the objectives of OCPA <http://rootsweb.com/~okcps/ocpa.htm>
> we
> have scheduled a Cemetery Preservation Workshop for the 28th and 29th of
> October 2005. We have contracted with the Chicora Foundation of Columbia,
> South Carolina to conduct this workshop. Mike Trinkley and Debi Hacker
> both
> have superb credentials and experience in cemetery restoration and
> preservation and have conducted these workshops all over the country. You
> can check them out at: http://www.chicora.org/
>
> The contact person is: Sue Tolbert at: tolbert6(a)cox.net
>
> DearFRED (not Frank!)
> THANKS for your feedback, Fred. I checked out CHICORA and find from its
> website that "Chicora is a Columbia, South Carolina public, non-profit
> heritage preservation organization founded in 1993. Our work includes
> archaeological and historical research throughout the Southeastern United
> States, public education (primarily right here in South Carolina), and
> work
> in conservation and preservation with museums, libraries, archives,
> historic
> organizations, and private citizens."
>
> They have a webpage describing cemetery preservation at:
> http://www.chicora.org/cemetery_preservation.htm
>
> I trust that other regions of the world have similar organizations. We
> just
> can't go into these cemeteries with a bottle of bleach to supposedly clean
> the tombstones. The long-term preservation is at stake. This organization
> recommends:
>
> Association for Gravestone Studies -- they foster appreciation of the
> cultural significance of gravestones and burial grounds through study and
> preservation. <http://www.gravestonestudies.org/index.htm>
>
> Stone Faces and Sacred Spaces -- colleagues with an exceptional range of
> experience in cemetery preservation. <strangstad(a)aol.com>
>
> The Center for Historic Cemeteries Preservation -- promotes the study,
> documentation, and preservation of historical burial sites.
> <smethompson(a)earthlink.net>
>
> Find the listing of "essential or fun reading" at:
> http://www.chicora.org/considering_a_project.htm
>
>
> Happy family tree climbing!
> Myrt :)
> DearMYRTLE,
> 6023 26th Street West PMB 352
> Bradenton, FL 34207
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Wonderful idea. Thank you.
It was a great day for our descendant.
We finally found that long lost stone.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~intcpcrg/Shumaker/Summers_John_1869_found_10_2_2...
Makes ya fell good all over!
L.A.
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From: <ejw13(a)ccrtc.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Farley Cemetery
> L.A.:
>
> THE COUNTY HIGHWAY HAS VOLUNTEERED TO HELP US
THIS YEAR WITH REMOVAL OF
> PILES OF TRASH BY HAULING IT OFF FOR US.
>
> YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU ARE
DOING UNTIL THEY APPROACH
> YOU ASKING IF YOU NEED THEIR HELP.
>
> GOOD LUCK.
>
> JOAN WRAY
> TIPTON COUNTY
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L. A. Clugh" <clugh_la(a)msn.com>
> To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Farley Cemetery
>
>
> Now I can relate to that one too.
> I'm off to meet the Scouts and volunteers this
> afternoon to work on an original family farm
cemetery. And Rich has
> offered his services here as well. We have
found many babies
> stones that have never been recorded and we can
also set those
> boundaries now.
> The hardest part of this project is the pile of
dirt, rocks and tombstones
> someone created around 30 years ago. We have
to
> sift through it piece by piece. Very time
consuming and we
> also need to haul it all away when were done.
Believe there
> may be graves under that big pile. Each
project has it
> challenges.
>
> Have a great day, and share that good news.
>
>
> LA~Tippecanoe Co.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <uebush(a)sbcglobal.net>
> To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:42 PM
> Subject: [INPCRP] Farley Cemetery
>
>
L.A.:
THE COUNTY HIGHWAY HAS VOLUNTEERED TO HELP US THIS YEAR WITH REMOVAL OF
PILES OF TRASH BY HAULING IT OFF FOR US.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU ARE DOING UNTIL THEY APPROACH
YOU ASKING IF YOU NEED THEIR HELP.
GOOD LUCK.
JOAN WRAY
TIPTON COUNTY
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From: "L. A. Clugh" <clugh_la(a)msn.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Farley Cemetery
Now I can relate to that one too.
I'm off to meet the Scouts and volunteers this
afternoon to work
on an original family farm cemetery. And Rich has
offered his
services here as well. We have found many babies
stones that
have never been recorded and we can also set those
boundaries now.
The hardest part of this project is the pile of
dirt, rocks and tombstones
someone created around 30 years ago. We have to
sift through
it piece by piece. Very time consuming and we
also need to
haul it all away when were done. Believe there
may be graves
under that big pile. Each project has it
challenges.
Shumaker_9-21-05DSCN1366.JPG
Have a great day, and share that good news.
LA~Tippecanoe Co.
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Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:42 PM
Subject: [INPCRP] Farley Cemetery
>
>
> Its kinda slow on here lately. Here's something
to see online to liven
> things up.
> @ http://hcgs.net/hccc/farley2005.html Saw Mark
and Teresa at SPATS meeting
> in Spiceland, good to see ya'all again.
>
> UEB
> WWW.HCGS.NET
> Henry Co., INPCRP
>
> As I walk the trail of life, in the fear of the
wind and rain,
> Grant O' Great Spirit that I may always walk
like a man.
>
>
>
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what kind of people you have."
> Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)
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Maybe everyone is out doing what we should all be doing, teaching the right way to restore a cemetery.
Sheila
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These are the photos I took at Farley a few years ago-
Donna
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From: <uebush(a)sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 05:42 PM
Subject: [INPCRP] Farley Cemetery
>
>
> Its kinda slow on here lately. Here's something to see online to liven
> things up.
> @ http://hcgs.net/hccc/farley2005.html Saw Mark and Teresa at SPATS
meeting
> in Spiceland, good to see ya'all again.
>
> UEB
> WWW.HCGS.NET
> Henry Co., INPCRP
>
> As I walk the trail of life, in the fear of the wind and rain,
> Grant O' Great Spirit that I may always walk like a man.
>
>
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> "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you
have."
> Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)
>
>
Its kinda slow on here lately. Here's something to see online to liven
things up.
@ http://hcgs.net/hccc/farley2005.html Saw Mark and Teresa at SPATS meeting
in Spiceland, good to see ya'all again.
UEB
WWW.HCGS.NET
Henry Co., INPCRP
As I walk the trail of life, in the fear of the wind and rain,
Grant O' Great Spirit that I may always walk like a man.
DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT?
TIPTON COUNTY
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----- Original Message -----
From: <Bjreal332(a)aol.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] DIGIN@MCMULLION FLOYD CO.CEMETERY
In a message dated 9/21/05 11:26:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
NTFCANNON(a)aol.com writes:
> ANYONE EXPERIANCED THIS BEFORE? IF SO, PLEASE HELP WITH INFORMATION
> TO ADDRESS THOSE RESPONSIBLE. THANKS A CEMETERY LOT!
>
Tom, just read this. Contact Jeannie and ask her what the Hell is going on.
B. Real
Bjreal332(a)aol.com
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