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Sue:
As far as I know, there is no Indiana statute that pertains to a veteran's
grave over anyone else. If there is a federal law that covers veteran's
graves I would like to see it. I have fussed for years that the federal
government has more of an obligation to protect a veteran's grave and the
"taxpayer's" headstone stuck out there in a field. Not that they are any
better than a baby, pioneer, or anybody else, but when the federal
government spends taxpayer's dollars to bring those boys home, give them a
proper burial on a hill in southern Indiana, or where ever, and give them
and forever replace their headstone, there needs to be more of an obligation
on their part through protection by the federal government. Not to mention
decency.Most Congressmen think
this is a state's rights issue. I do not. If we could get through federal
legislation to protect the cemeteries with veteran, our job would be much
easier. Not done, but easier.
Do you know what the penalty for disturbing a veteran's stone is in Indiana?
Not much! Do you know what the penalty is for disturbing a mailbox. It is a
federal offense. Does this make sense?
Jon Andrews
>From: "Sue Silver" <ssilver1951(a)jps.net>
>Reply-To: INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Pioneer Cemeteries in Floyd Co., IN
>Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:43:12 -0800
>
>Is there a state statute regarding military veterans' grave? I know there
>is federal law, though I'm not certain to what extent it might be used to
>protect a veteran's grave from being relocated.
>
>Sue Silver
>CA
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <VWCase(a)aol.com>
>To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Pioneer Cemeteries in Floyd Co., IN
>
>
> > In a message dated 3/17/01 7:20:32 AM Central Standard Time,
> > ssilver1951(a)jps.net writes:
> >
> >
> > > INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
> > >
> >
> > I have been following the Indiana cemetery preservation on the inter-net
>for
> > over a year and find it very interesting. Do you know anything about
>the
>Cox
> > Cemetery at Zionsville. Several years ago when I finally found it,only
>two
> > stones were standing. I am afraid that some builder will come in to
>build
>a
> > housing edition. My grandfather was an 1812 war vet who is buried there.
>I
> > have a picture of his tombstone. Two or three years ago I received
>wordthat
> > someone was going to try to restore it after I had posted it in the
>"Hall
>of
> > Shame". I tried to contact the person, but could never find them. I
>sure
> > would like to know something about this cemetery.
> > Winnie in Mo.
> >
> >
> > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> > "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you
>have."
> > Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)
> >
> >
>
>
>==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
>If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to
>LoisMauk(a)usa.net.
>
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Angela, does the newspaper at Greenfield have a web address. ??? Everyone
should read the story. You are an inspiration for others to keep going.
Jack Briles
jb502000(a)aol.com
Sue, a few years ago in the 80's a man from Harrison Co, In. Moved a
complete cemetery, The "Heil" from Floyd to Martinsburg, In. Two were
Revolutionary Vets., related to him. They are buried on his property. He has
now passed away, now who will take care of what he moved. ?? Maybe the Law
has changed enough to prevent this from happening again. I was told if you
want an interpretation of the Law hire an Attorney. I can't afford to.
Especially when they are not related. I have enough expenses Locating them
and recording the location.
Jack
Jack,
I know exactly what you mean and if I played the California Lottery I might
have ?some? chance to win the kind of money I NEED to stop the madness in my
county....
I once tried to contact a local county Veterans Services representative
about the problems affectin the veterans graves, but never even got a reply!
What does that tell you?
Am I the only one who is finding that people in positions of responsibility
are often found avoiding problems when the subject matter is cemeteries?
Are we that afraid of death and the dead?
Sue
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jb502000(a)aol.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Military Burials, Floyd Co.
> Sue, a few years ago in the 80's a man from Harrison Co, In. Moved a
> complete cemetery, The "Heil" from Floyd to Martinsburg, In. Two were
> Revolutionary Vets., related to him. They are buried on his property. He
has
> now passed away, now who will take care of what he moved. ?? Maybe the
Law
> has changed enough to prevent this from happening again. I was told if
you
> want an interpretation of the Law hire an Attorney. I can't afford to.
> Especially when they are not related. I have enough expenses Locating them
> and recording the location.
>
> Jack
>
>
> ==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> THIS IS A CEMETERY -----
> "Lives are commemorated - deaths are recorded - families
> are reunited - memories are made tangible - and love is
> undisguised. This is a cemetery.
> "Communities accord respect, families bestow reverence,
> historians seek information and our heritage is thereby enriched.
> "Testimonies of devotion, pride and remembrance are carved
> in stone to pay warm tribute to accomplishments and to the life -
> not the death - of a loved one. The cemetery is homeland for family
> memorials that are a sustaining source of comfort to the living.
> "A cemetery is a history of people - a perpetual record of
> yesterday and sanctuary of peace and quiet today. A cemetery
> exists because every life is worth loving and remembering - always."
> --Author unknown -- Seen at a monument dealer in West Union, IA
>
>
Dear Marilyn:
I am posting a copy of your message to the INPCRP e-mail group to see if
anyone on the list knows anything further about this particular site or might
be interested in investigating it. I am in the opposite end of the state and
don't have any local contacts in Marion Co. beyond my friends on the INPCRP
group. We'll keep you posted.
Lois
----- Original Message -----
From: MARILYN J MURRAY
To: LoisMauk(a)usa.net
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:56 AM
Subject: INPCRP Hall of Shame
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE "HALL OF SHAME" --2 CEMETERIES THAT SIT SIDE BY
SIDE---FALL CREEK/EBENEZER LUTHERAN CEMETERY. LOCATED IN MARION COUNTY,
WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, 42ND & MILLERSVILLE ROAD. UNDER WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP
TRUSTEE GWEN HORTH. THIS CEMETERY IS LOCATED IN A SO CALLED BAD NEIGHBORHOOD,
WHERE EVERYONE IS AFRAID TO VISIT THIS CEMETERY, NEVERTHELESS TRY AND CLEAN IT
UP.
APPOX. 800+ GRAVES TOTAL BUT ONLY A FEW VISABLE HEADSTONES-- NEEDS TO BE
PROBED BADLY.
WEEDS AND POISON IVY GALORE, BROKEN HEADSTONES, MISSING HEADSTONES THAT HAVE
BEEN TAKEN OUT AND THROWN IN THE CREEK THAT FOLLOWS ALONG THIS GRAVEYARD,
ALOT OF VADALISM HAS BEEN DONE TO THESE 2 CEMETERIES.
PLEASE, PLEASE HELP PRESERVE THIS PIONEER CEMETERY. NO ONE ELSE CARES
DUE TO A BAD LOCATION IN TOWN.
MARILYNJOMURRAY(a)PRODIGY.NET
EVERETT, WASHINGTON
Dear Winnie:
Thank you for your interest in Indiana pioneer cemeteries. I personally have
no knowledge of cemeteries in Boone Co., IN; maybe someone else on the group
can address your question with specificity. However, may I suggest you make
contact with the webmaster for the Boone Co. GENWEB page
(http://www.rootsweb.com/~inboone/) to see if she knows anything further about
this particular cemetery?
Lois
----- Original Message -----
From: <VWCase(a)aol.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Pioneer Cemeteries in Floyd Co., IN
> In a message dated 3/17/01 7:20:32 AM Central Standard Time,
> ssilver1951(a)jps.net writes:
>
>
> > INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >
>
> I have been following the Indiana cemetery preservation on the inter-net for
> over a year and find it very interesting. Do you know anything about the
Cox
> Cemetery at Zionsville. Several years ago when I finally found it,only two
> stones were standing. I am afraid that some builder will come in to build a
> housing edition. My grandfather was an 1812 war vet who is buried there. I
> have a picture of his tombstone. Two or three years ago I received wordthat
> someone was going to try to restore it after I had posted it in the "Hall of
> Shame". I tried to contact the person, but could never find them. I sure
> would like to know something about this cemetery.
> Winnie in Mo.
>
Dear Jan:
Thank you so much for writing. How exciting for you to find that funding may
be available to do cemetery restoration work in Ohio! There are a LOT of
people on this group who would give their eye teeth to be in your shoes.
You might want to consider several options when deciding how much
"organization" you will need to do this work. There are several advantages to
looser-knit groups (no need for incorporation as a 501(c)(3) organization, no
record keeping, etc.) An alternative if you go in that direction is that
funding could be funneled to your group through the appropriate Township
Trustee (or equivalent there in Ohio) so that YOU would not have to be
responsible for handling the money. Perhaps the County Commissioners or some
other entity could have the responsibility for overseeing the financial aspect
of this project in cooperation with your group. An even better idea might be
to associate yourselves with an EXISTING genealogical or historical society as
a subset of that group (the "Cemetery Committee of XYZ Group"). Then, you
could take advantage of their existing reputation, IRS tax-exempt status, etc.
Are you aware of the Ohio Cemeteries e-mail group on Rootsweb? See
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/misc.html for information on joining
that group. I would also suggest joining the e-mail group on Rootsweb for
YOUR county in Ohio (see http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/ ).
The Ohio Cemetery Preservation Society (OCPS) has a website at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcps/
where you will certainly find resources that will be of use to you. I noticed
that they are planning a Cemetery Restoration Workshop for sometime this
summer, but no further details were offered.
As for garnering the public's interest and participation, make contact with
your local newspapers and TV news departments. Their interest in your efforts
will be key in making contact with the general public.
My primary suggestion is that you try to educate yourself on proper cemetery
research and restoration techniques as well as the laws of Ohio relating to
pioneer cemeteries. I don't know what sort of workshops are available to you
in your area, but we presently have THREE scheduled in the northern half of
Indiana during the next three months. You would certainly be welcome to join
us at one of these weekend workshops. (Details are available on the main
INPCRP webpage at http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp , where you'll also find
links to some invaluable resources such as learning to research cemetery
property ownership, the Saving Graves website, the Association for Gravestone
Studies, etc.)
Having armed yourself with as much information as possible, I would then
suggest you find a project of manageable size and difficulty, do your homework
(research in the property ownership, level of interest by the Township Trustee
or equivalent, etc.), get permission to undertake a clean up and then put
together a simple, concise news release about your plans and distribute it to
the local media along with at least one good quality photograph of the site in
question. Schedule a series of workdays. Enlist the cooperation of your
local Sheriff to provide inmate labor or a local Judge to provide Community
Service workers to help you with the rough cleaning work. Try to enlist the
assistance of a local Boy Scout or Girl Scout troop or other civic
organization. When you have your workdays, invite the local press to visit
the worksite.
That, in a nutshell, are my initial suggestions and ideas. I hope you'll stay
on board with us here on the INPCRP as there are a lot of folks here who share
your interest and who will be an invaluable resource to you, geography
notwithstanding.
Anyone else have any suggestions or ideas?
Lois
----- Original Message -----
From: <Bubblecut(a)aol.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:32 AM
Subject: [INPCRP] How do you start a local preservation group?
> Hi all,
> I read with great interest about various county groups in my dear homestate
> of Indiana who have gotten together to try to clean up and repair our
Pioneer
> cemeteries, and of the great job they are all doing.
> Unfortunately, I live on the other side of Ohio. But my husband and I are
> always walking the old cemeteries here, appalled sometimes by the condition.
> He had briefly spoken to one of our county commissioners (who used to be our
> town mayor, and is a good acquaintance of ours) about how the cemeteries
> needed to be more protected and respected. Now, today, we had the internal
> auditor of the county commissioners call us to see if we needed funding -
and
> we don't even have a group together yet! We are also going to contact the
> director of our town's historical society (we also know him well, he is
> always working on a pioneer cemetery in the center of our town, and he also
> is director of a genealogy library one county west from us) for his ideas.
> But, since many of you are so experienced in this, how do you get a group
> together to do this work? How do you initially get people interested? Do
> you make it a formal group (with meetings, etc.), or is it usually a
> loose-knit group of people interested in the same agenda? I get the feeling
> it may have to be a more formally-formed group to get funding, but I don't
> know. Do you figure out what you are doing (i.e. which cemeteries are most
> in need and what extent we intend to go in cleanup efforts) and then start
> telling people about it? Or vice versa?
> Sorry about all the questions. Any information, advice, etc. would be so
> appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Jan Rader
> Kent, Ohio
>
>
> ==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> Cemetery: (n) A marble orchard not to be taken for granite.
>
>
In a message dated 3/17/01 7:20:32 AM Central Standard Time,
ssilver1951(a)jps.net writes:
> INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
>
I have been following the Indiana cemetery preservation on the inter-net for
over a year and find it very interesting. Do you know anything about the Cox
Cemetery at Zionsville. Several years ago when I finally found it,only two
stones were standing. I am afraid that some builder will come in to build a
housing edition. My grandfather was an 1812 war vet who is buried there. I
have a picture of his tombstone. Two or three years ago I received wordthat
someone was going to try to restore it after I had posted it in the "Hall of
Shame". I tried to contact the person, but could never find them. I sure
would like to know something about this cemetery.
Winnie in Mo.
Is there a state statute regarding military veterans' grave? I know there
is federal law, though I'm not certain to what extent it might be used to
protect a veteran's grave from being relocated.
Sue Silver
CA
----- Original Message -----
From: <VWCase(a)aol.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Pioneer Cemeteries in Floyd Co., IN
> In a message dated 3/17/01 7:20:32 AM Central Standard Time,
> ssilver1951(a)jps.net writes:
>
>
> > INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >
>
> I have been following the Indiana cemetery preservation on the inter-net
for
> over a year and find it very interesting. Do you know anything about the
Cox
> Cemetery at Zionsville. Several years ago when I finally found it,only
two
> stones were standing. I am afraid that some builder will come in to build
a
> housing edition. My grandfather was an 1812 war vet who is buried there.
I
> have a picture of his tombstone. Two or three years ago I received
wordthat
> someone was going to try to restore it after I had posted it in the "Hall
of
> Shame". I tried to contact the person, but could never find them. I sure
> would like to know something about this cemetery.
> Winnie in Mo.
>
>
> ==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you
have."
> Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)
>
>
Are any of the county surveyors or engineers around you using creating a GIS
yet? Ours is almost done and for $1.00 per sq. ft. I had maps of the county
printed just for me. I asked for all roads, twp & rge lines as well as
political township lines and all waterways. I had them laminated at
OfficeMax and I mark the location of the cemetery with a small cross (maps
are 24" x 24"). I can compare it quickly with the county maps of the past
and can even mark old names on them without ruining the map if I decide
later to remove them.
I know the "County Road Map" that we sell for $2.00 in the Auditors office
is not drawn by us and is not entirely correct, neither is the county plat
book that we (the county) sell. I think the goal is to someday be able to
cheaply produce our own, but that isn't feasible until the entire county is
done.
Anyway, just a suggestion. Good luck.
Cris West
Columbus, Indiana
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jb502000(a)aol.com>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] Re: Did you know? Road Maps
> I have had trouble with a 1988 Floyd Co. Map having different names from
the
> 2000 map because of the need to make some roads with 2 names connected
across
> the county having to be changed to simplify, and make it easier for
responses
> to 911 calls. Our Legion map from 1939-40 was hand drawn, and the
cemeteries
> were numbered, and almost impossible to find a cemetery. but it does give
you
> a road name and cemetery on that rd.
>
> Jack
>
Hi all,
I read with great interest about various county groups in my dear homestate
of Indiana who have gotten together to try to clean up and repair our Pioneer
cemeteries, and of the great job they are all doing.
Unfortunately, I live on the other side of Ohio. But my husband and I are
always walking the old cemeteries here, appalled sometimes by the condition.
He had briefly spoken to one of our county commissioners (who used to be our
town mayor, and is a good acquaintance of ours) about how the cemeteries
needed to be more protected and respected. Now, today, we had the internal
auditor of the county commissioners call us to see if we needed funding - and
we don't even have a group together yet! We are also going to contact the
director of our town's historical society (we also know him well, he is
always working on a pioneer cemetery in the center of our town, and he also
is director of a genealogy library one county west from us) for his ideas.
But, since many of you are so experienced in this, how do you get a group
together to do this work? How do you initially get people interested? Do
you make it a formal group (with meetings, etc.), or is it usually a
loose-knit group of people interested in the same agenda? I get the feeling
it may have to be a more formally-formed group to get funding, but I don't
know. Do you figure out what you are doing (i.e. which cemeteries are most
in need and what extent we intend to go in cleanup efforts) and then start
telling people about it? Or vice versa?
Sorry about all the questions. Any information, advice, etc. would be so
appreciated.
Thanks,
Jan Rader
Kent, Ohio
I have had trouble with a 1988 Floyd Co. Map having different names from the
2000 map because of the need to make some roads with 2 names connected across
the county having to be changed to simplify, and make it easier for responses
to 911 calls. Our Legion map from 1939-40 was hand drawn, and the cemeteries
were numbered, and almost impossible to find a cemetery. but it does give you
a road name and cemetery on that rd.
Jack
Sue, I'll have to settle for more lemons, I'm non alcoholic, any suggestions
???
Seriously this the right time to get sick from all the damp weather. Cold
weather is not so bad, but this early spring dampness is terrible, that's why
I am quitting at the end of march, until it warms and dries up.
Jack
Ernie:
You're right! I'd forgotten about that. They built the card index,
though, from American Legion records, I believe. And you're also right
that, while not perfect, it is in many cases the only documentation we
have of a cemetery's existence. I've taken copies of WPA maps out in
the field when searching, and showed them to local homeowners in the
hope that they may help us track down cemeteries. I sure do wish they'd
named those roads! Every road on the maps, with very few exceptions, is
labelled "county road."
There are still a couple cemeteries here in Morgan County which we have
a map for, but no other proof of existence. (More loose ends.)
Dale Drake
MCHGA Cemetery Committee
Connie & Ernie wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> That also may be the WPA Veterans Graves Registration Project, which was
> done in the late 1930's? Not all Counties were completed, and not every
> cemetery was registered. In several counties, the information is not very
> accurate or incomplete. In Gibson County, 144 of 200 plus cemeteries were
> registered in 1939-1940. It lists only Veterans, and several were
> missed. It can be very valuable information to find the old "missing"
> cemeteries, and is also helpful in identifying Veteran burials where the
> stones are not now readable or gone. It is also legal proof that a
> cemetery existed. We obtained three files, one was maps, one an index, and
> the third the cards with the Veteran information.
>
> Ernie Lasley, Coordinator
> Gibson County PCRP
> PCRP page: http://members.sigecom.net/elasley/inpcrp/index.html
> Cemetery page: http://www.usroots.com/~jmurphy/gibson/gibcem/gibcem.htm
>
> At 08:30 AM 3/20/01, you wrote:
>
> >I received this information in reply to an email I sent about a visit to
> >the Drake cemetery located along our road. Thought it might be of
> >interest. Ellyn Kern, Switzerland County
> >
> >
> > > Since genealogical research can lead to a lot of "sheer frustration", I'd
> > > like to share one, among many, with you all. There is a marvelous card
> > > file in the Indiana State Library at Indianapolis that contains
> > information
> > > on U. S. military markers that are placed in Indiana cemeteries. The
> > cards
> > > contain information regarding the deceased, i. e. dates of birth, death,
> > > military service, who requested the marker, etc. Would you believe, there
> > > are cards for all Indiana counties EXCEPT Dearborn, Ohio,
> > > Switzerland? Wonder what ever happened to them? Don't I wish I knew!
> > >
> > > Myrna Madigan
> > >
> >
> >
> >==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> >If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living?
>
> ==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> Quote from William Gladstone (1809-1897), three-time Prime Minister of England
> and Victorian contemporary of Benjamin Disraeli:
> "Show me the manner in which a nation or community
> cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical
> exactness the tender mercies of its people, their
> respect for the laws of the land, and their loyalty
> to high ideals."
Hello,
That also may be the WPA Veterans Graves Registration Project, which was
done in the late 1930's? Not all Counties were completed, and not every
cemetery was registered. In several counties, the information is not very
accurate or incomplete. In Gibson County, 144 of 200 plus cemeteries were
registered in 1939-1940. It lists only Veterans, and several were
missed. It can be very valuable information to find the old "missing"
cemeteries, and is also helpful in identifying Veteran burials where the
stones are not now readable or gone. It is also legal proof that a
cemetery existed. We obtained three files, one was maps, one an index, and
the third the cards with the Veteran information.
Ernie Lasley, Coordinator
Gibson County PCRP
PCRP page: http://members.sigecom.net/elasley/inpcrp/index.html
Cemetery page: http://www.usroots.com/~jmurphy/gibson/gibcem/gibcem.htm
At 08:30 AM 3/20/01, you wrote:
>I received this information in reply to an email I sent about a visit to
>the Drake cemetery located along our road. Thought it might be of
>interest. Ellyn Kern, Switzerland County
>
>
> > Since genealogical research can lead to a lot of "sheer frustration", I'd
> > like to share one, among many, with you all. There is a marvelous card
> > file in the Indiana State Library at Indianapolis that contains
> information
> > on U. S. military markers that are placed in Indiana cemeteries. The
> cards
> > contain information regarding the deceased, i. e. dates of birth, death,
> > military service, who requested the marker, etc. Would you believe, there
> > are cards for all Indiana counties EXCEPT Dearborn, Ohio,
> > Switzerland? Wonder what ever happened to them? Don't I wish I knew!
> >
> > Myrna Madigan
> >
>
>
>==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
>If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living?
Hi, Susan. GPSing is taking the exact latitude and longitude of a
cemetery, using a hand-held Global Positioning Satellite (I think that's
the correct phrase) device, which works off of satellites stationed in
geosynchronous orbits around the globe. We are GPSing all of our
cemeteries, even the ones like Morgan which are easy to spot, so that we
can map them with mapping software, and so that the ones that are hidden
in the woods, like Dow, can be located again by someone else with
another GPS. We get permission from the landowners to visit the
cemeteries to GPS them.
As for Morgan Cemetery, I'm sorry to hear those trees are down. We
visited there last summer and it was looking pretty good. (Pretty good
is a relative term, though - accessible without wading through hip-deep
brambles and poison ivy is the main criteria.) Of course we know that
many stones are broken and down, which is the case in probably 80-90% of
our cemeteries. It, like many others, would be a worthwhile restoration
project. I do know that in 1995 the then-current landowner was letting
his cows in the cemetery. Since it's the only shady spot for miles,
guess where they stayed all summer? They did a trememdous amount of
damage. When we saw it in 1995 it was a hard-baked mud pit. But it has
been fenced since then, as you know, and the current landowners have
been quite open to any attempts at access to the site. They had asked
us about the possibility of reseeding the site at one time - they wanted
to come through with a tiller, which we asked them not to do, assuming
that many stones are just under the surface. (Yikes!) I would imagine
they'd be open to giving you access in order to remove the trees.
Determining all grave locations is a task for a professional, and, I
assume, would be expensive. Others on the list may know more about
that. Probing for stones under the surface is illegal without a DNR
permit. I'm afraid I can't be of much help to you. There are
undoubtedly more bodies than stones in the cemetery, and you're probably
right, William Morgan's wife is probably buried there, but you'll most
likely not be able to prove it. Keep in mind, too, that many people
were buried with wooden markers or no markers at all - it's not just a
problem of fallen stones.
Dale Drake
Morgan Co History & Genealogy Assn
Cemetery Committee
Susan Barrett wrote:
>
> Dear Dale,
> Can you help me out? What is GPSing and how do you get it done on a private
> cemetery? My Morgan cemetery was cleaned up last summer bur trees have
> fallen over two graves. We thought we had documented via headstones all the
> graves there until I checked Mary Ellen Sheet's records and found that
> there are two graves with broken headstones next to a Wm. Kell which we
> could not even find. I think that there are more bodies than stones in the
> Morgan Family Farm Cemetery but I do not know how to prove it. We cannot
> find William Morgan's wife buried there and we think that her grave is
> underneath a tree but again can't prove it. Is there any inexpensive way to
> do that. Thank you for the feedback.
> Susan Morgan Barrett
Ellyn and all:
The card index at ISL is compiled from American Legion records. I'm not
sure why those counties are missing at ISL, but if you're tracking
someone down you could try checking the local American Legion branches
in those counties.
Dale Drake
Morgan Co History & Genealogy Assn
Cemetery Committee
"Ellyn R. Kern" wrote:
>
> I received this information in reply to an email I sent about a visit to
> the Drake cemetery located along our road. Thought it might be of
> interest. Ellyn Kern, Switzerland County
>
> > Since genealogical research can lead to a lot of "sheer frustration", I'd
> > like to share one, among many, with you all. There is a marvelous card
> > file in the Indiana State Library at Indianapolis that contains information
> > on U. S. military markers that are placed in Indiana cemeteries. The cards
> > contain information regarding the deceased, i. e. dates of birth, death,
> > military service, who requested the marker, etc. Would you believe, there
> > are cards for all Indiana counties EXCEPT Dearborn, Ohio,
> > Switzerland? Wonder what ever happened to them? Don't I wish I knew!
> >
> > Myrna Madigan
> >
>
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> If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living?
Carol and Jack:
Thanks for the kind words, but you know how it is ... having a cemetery
with the phrase "not located" beside it is just the worst, or best, form
of motivation. Did I mention the very nice geodes we found while
wading? That was also a small payback - but nothing like the knowledge
that we can now take this one off the loose ends list!
Dale Drake
Morgan County History & Genealogy Assn
Cemetery Committee
Jb502000(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 3/20/01 1:47:38 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> CAROLBRADB(a)aol.com writes:
>
> << > What we will do for these cemeteries! I haven't heard yet if anyone has
> > contracted pneumonia. >>
>
> I now have Bronchial Pneumonia finally, after 3 months.
>
>
>
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> If we cannot respect the dead, how can we respect the living?
In a message dated 3/20/01 1:47:38 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
CAROLBRADB(a)aol.com writes:
<< > What we will do for these cemeteries! I haven't heard yet if anyone has
> contracted pneumonia. >>
I now have Bronchial Pneumonia finally, after 3 months.
In a message dated 3/19/01 12:24:22 PM Central Standard Time,
ddrake(a)iupui.edu writes:
> What we will do for these cemeteries! I haven't heard yet if anyone has
> contracted pneumonia.
>
>
BLESS YOU!!!
Only Divine Intervention could keep you from getting sick after going through
all that!!! Just want you to know--we appreciate you and others like you!!!
Hope you continue to enjoy good health and exciting (and warmer) days!!!
Thank you again, Dale!
Carol Bradbury