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The 3 vandals who did so much damage at Grandview Cemetery earlier this year
were sentenced this past week. Up to 150 gravestones were damaged in a
vandalism spree in April of this year.
Evansville Courier-Press
06/23/2000
"Residents OK with vandals' sentence"
http://www.courierpress.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?200006/23+ok062300_news.html...
0623
Owensboro Messenger-Inquirer
06/24/2000
"Teens sentenced in cemetery case"
http://www.messenger-inquirer.com/spencer/1783229.htm
[If the above URLs break onto 2 lines, you'll have to paste it back together
on your web brower; if that doesn't work, you can link to the story from the
INPCRP "In the News" page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp/inthenews.html ]
Sending this link on for you to read on one of our Indiana cemeteries. It
has been in the works for 2 years. Good thinks can happen.
http://www.lafayettejc.com/news0618/0618l05.html
L. A. Clugh, Tippecanoe County, IN
Ernie:
The photos look GREAT! My only suggestion would be to add captions to them.
Lois
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie & Connie" <elasley(a)sigecom.net>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 10:56 PM
Subject: [INPCRP] More Workshop Pictures.
> Hello All,
>
> Some new pictures of the Gibson County Workshop have been added on our
> website, these are pictures of the repair of a tall oblisk stone. You can
> see them at:
>
> http://members.sigecom.net/elasley/inpcrp/seminar-results.html
>
> Thanks to L. A. Clugh for sending the pictures.
>
> Ernie
Hello All,
Some new pictures of the Gibson County Workshop have been added on our
website, these are pictures of the repair of a tall oblisk stone. You can
see them at:
http://members.sigecom.net/elasley/inpcrp/seminar-results.html
Thanks to L. A. Clugh for sending the pictures.
Ernie
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elasley(a)sigecom.net
Saving Graves, located at http://www.savinggraves.com, supports and
encourages the protection, restoration, and preservation of endangered
cemeteries. Visitors can find local information on cemetery
protection law, as well as current issues related to endangered cemeteries.
In the past week, we have added the following resources:
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Added the following NEW PAGES to the website:
* Australia
* Canada
* England
* Ireland
* New Zealand
* Scotland
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Added or updated ACTION ALERTS for the following endangered cemeteries
McNair Cemetery - Sand Creek Twsp, Beadley County, South Dakota
Sacramento City Cemetery - Sacramento, California
Old Liberty Cemetery - Oxford, Lafayette County, Mississippi
Brighton Village Cemetery - Brighton, Livingston County, Michigan
Cooper Cemetery - Manchester, Ontario County, New York
St. Adelberts Cemetery - Cheektowaga, Erie County, New York
The Hall Cemetery - Shepherdsville, Bullitt County, Kentucky.
The Duncan Family Graveyard - Blue Mountain, Benton County, Mississippi.
The Selph Graveyard - Hickory Flat, Benton County, Mississippi.
The Sloan Cemetery - Polo, Caldwell County, Missouri.
The Skelton Family Cemetery - Pumpkin Center, Walker County, Alabama
The Applegate - Kennedy Cemetery - New Plymouth, Payette County, Idaho.
The Arbuckle Cemetery - New Madrid County, Missouri.
The Prospect Methodist Cemetery , located in Baltimore, Baltimore County,
Maryland.
The Ulmer Family Cemetery, located in Montieth, Effingham County, Georgia.
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Updated the following pages:
* California
* Kentucky
* Pennsylvania
* Other Cemetery Preservation Links
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William Spurlock
Saving Graves
http://www.savinggraves.com
WOW--Lois,
What a great answer to Texas' Headstone question.
This listserv is the Ultimate for Cemetery Enthusiasts. (Cemeterians)
Your work is paying off Lois.
Ron Baldwin
Cemeterian in Bloomington
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First.. thanks to Don Huffman for making me aware of this list.
I need advise! I am going to start a project that has been avoided of many
many years. There are broken markers, many of which are my ancestors, in a
local cemetery. I know that leaving these unattended will bring on
vandilism, not to mention.. the loss of the marker itself.
How do I begin? What do I use? What is the step by step technique in
repairing and putting back together the grave markers? Isn't there some sort
of epoxy? I also want to clean some markers that are still standing. Any
suggestions on how to clean them?
I am open to any and all advice and suggestion. I thank each and everyone of
you in advance for taking the time to read and respond.
Please feel free to email me directly.
Vicki
Texas
Andi:
Are these tree trunk stones broken or just "uprooted"?
Lois
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andi MacDonald" <andimac(a)oz.net>
To: <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 5:07 PM
Subject: [INPCRP] Resetting Tree Trunk headstones
> I have two of these, which are over 6 ft tall, to reset. Anyone ever done
> this before?
>
> Andi MacDonald
>
>
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The Cass County Genealogical Society will have their meeting on Wednesday,
June 21, 2000, 7:00 P.M. at the Logansport Public Library. Second floor,
back room.
We are having a guest speaker, Susanne S. Ridlin, author of "TREE STUMP
TOMBSTONES, a Field Guide to Rustic Funerary Art in Indiana.
Guests are welcome.
Debby Beheler
Hello All,
The pictures of the Gibson County Workshop are now on our website at:
http://members.sigecom.net/elasley/inpcrp/seminar-results.html
The pictures are thumbnail size at the bottom of the page. Just click on
the thumbnail to view the full size picture. There are some good shots of
Walt at work, and pictures of the "new" stone that we discovered and
matched up with the broken off base in the ground.
Thanks to Lois Mauk for the pictures and Chawn Caniff for posting them on
the website for me.
Ernie
Ernie Lasley
elasley(a)sigecom.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Green" <rgreen(a)nlci.com>
To: "Lois Mauk" <LoisMauk(a)home.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [INPCRP] New to the list
> Lois,
>
> As I mentioned before, I have worked on a federally funded preservation
grant
> and there were a number of ways to account for volunteer assistance and
> contribution. In this case, the grant specified that volunteer time would
be
> counted hourly at the minimum wage. Additional credit for mileage, expenses
> and out of pocket expenditures were also credited. Any use of facilities,
> computer equipment, tools, vehicles and disposable supplies were utilized to
> make up part of the matching funds required of the grant. These are things
> you folks are already doing. It may be also be possible to utilize
additional
> support from existing organizations.
>
> I do know that the DNR has historic preservation funds that may be applied
> for. I do not know the specific parameters of the granting process here in
> Indiana and it was my feeling that it would be better to find an existing
> organization(s) willing to discuss the concept first. I'm sure that this
will
> require a locally concerted effort to accomplish. It is felt that a local
> historical society, genealogical society, DAR, American legion, VFW and
> perhaps other civic minded groups may pool interests in this kind of
> endeavor...that is, providing they all get along. The more resources, the
> more likely a project like this one will succeed. Obviously the more
> resources that can be combined to make up the matching end of the grant, the
> greater the overall grant application may be.
>
> Again, it is not my intention to take on too large a project and I can see
> where something like this could get out of hand in a hurry. On the other
> hand, the project should be of a significance that merits grant funds.
> Ideally, a county or even two smaller counties would seem to be a workable
> size.
>
> It is important to have a well founded infrastructure for a number of
reasons.
> You are right on the money when you ask how will we gain access to the
> properties? This will have to come as the result of assistance in the form
of
> existing local relationships. A PR program to inform the general public
would
> be useful as well.
>
> These are some of the ideas I thought best to discuss on a local level and
in
> meetings with potential groups who may be willing to co-sponsor a grant
> application.
>
> We have discussed this already but I think it important to reiterate that I
am
> not attempting this as a money making scheme. I know going in that the
time,
> energy and resources I commit to this will not constitute anything like a
> normal return on the investment. Obviously, I can't do this gratis either
but
> I am willing to work within a budget that I'm certain no other contractor
> would entertain.
>
> There are additional expenses of a project like this including computer,
> software and the personnel to maintain the data when the initial project is
> complete. I use the term initial because the end product of the initial
work
> is a dynamic entity. This is the nature of GIS. There really is no limit
to
> the amount of information that can be thematically layered and queried. I
> think the size and location of all known cemeteries is a good place to
start.
>
> I am confident that a well conceived project of this kind will do more good
in
> less time than could otherwise be accomplished. It occurs to me that the
DNR
> may find that this is an efficient means with which to accomplish additional
> work across the state and that they may even, at some point, determine it
wise
> to set up similar satellite projects in order to complete their latest
> assignment. If we can get the first project funded, it may become the model
> for future projects statewide.
>
> I am going to be busy for the next couple of days. Paperwork is my nemesis
> and I am finally getting caught up. I don't have any fieldwork scheduled
> until right after the 4th of July, but this could change tomorrow.
>
> Please feel free to stay in touch. I am available to discuss this further
now
> and would be willing to arrange my schedule to attend meetings with
interested
> parties at some point in the future.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rich Green
> Historic Archaeological Research
> 4338 Hadley Court
> West Lafayette, IN 47906
> Office: (765) 464-8735
> Home: (765) 464-8095
> http://www.har-indy.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lois Mauk" <LoisMauk(a)home.com>
> To: "Rich Green" <rgreen(a)nlci.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 8:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [INPCRP] New to the list
>
>
> > Rich:
> >
> > Okay, let's see if we can work together. I have NO interest in working
> > AGAINST anybody. What could possibly be gained by that? There is no
> > question whatsoever that more can be accomplished by many than by a select
few. What
> > can we accomplish together? And how?
> >
> > So how do we proceed? What do you envision happening and how? Why don't
> > you post a message to the group about precisely what COULD happen? Bear
in mind
> > that most of us are total neophytes in anything beyond doing it ourselves
> > (as far as restoration work). Talk about the grant process, etc. in
elementary
> > terms. Explain it in detail and we'll see what happens. Include the
> > general comments about your past cemetery projects that you set out in
your last
> > message.
> >
> > I also don't understand the Legislature's idea (it was not ours!) of
adding
> > another huge project to DNR's plate. And I agree it will take YEARS for
> > them to get it off the ground (of course it will never be "done" as there
will
> > always be new sites being discovered). How many will disappear in the
> > meantime? Probably hundreds, certainly dozens. It sounds like a great
> > idea, but we had reservations, though we didn't voice them. Case in
point, the
> > USGS identifies 30 cemeteries in Clark Co. (generally only the "active"
ones).
>> The Indiana State Library Genealogy Division Cemetery Database identifies
179
> > cemeteries, but the list is so littered with mistakes and misinformation
as
> > to make its usefulness questionable. In the past 3 years, I've identified
in
> > excess of 200 cemeteries in Clark Co., though obviously we haven't "found"
> > all of them. So many have "vanished off the face of the earth".
> >
> > I have one question that I'd like your thoughts on. How do you foresee
> > solving the problem of gaining ACCESS to many of these sites? I'm
thinking
> > of the ones either on private property or which are landlocked and the
property
> > owner won't permit access. This may run as high as 1/3 of the burial
sites
> > in the state (or more).
> >
> > Another problem is the title research and surveying necessary to determine
> > cemetery ownership and location. I'm sure you know how mention of
> > cemeteries starting "falling off" deeds, especially around the
1920s-1940s. The
> > cemeteries are still there, just no longer specifically mentioned. They
> > changed the legal descriptions to skirt around the graveyards. Taxes
aren't
> > being paid on them, but the property owner treats them as his owns. Many
> > times the stones are long gone (which was legal until 1999) because the
> > farmers could pitch them. The only way we've found to confirm such
> > situations is by doing title research and then hiring a surveyor to define
the
> > boundaries and parameters based on the old and new legal descriptions. Do
you have any
> > ideas?
> >
> > I'm looking forward to a future of cooperative efforts with you and hope
we
> > can put our past misunderstandings behind us.
> >
> > Lois
John, The directions I received from Joe Kemper for myself going north on
I-65, take 465 west to the next exit which is East St/U.S. 31 and exit and go
south on 31. Once you are heading south get in the far Left Lane as you will
be turning left at the next intersection, which is Thompson Rd. (Shell Ser.
Station on Corner) Left on Thompson about 1/2 mile. There is a Street just
before you get to the Firestation, turn left (north) And you will see the
Government building on your right. That is where I will have to go and have
someone take me to the Cem. You might get directions to the Cem. from Joe
Kemper, but it is a little difficult. Joe is on the List.
Jack Briles
List; I apoligize for a mistake in an E-Mail sent at 1:43: PM EST Daylight
Time
To: INPCRP-L@rootsweb and CC: LoisMauk(a)home.com. I stated, and I Quote
"The Developer is willing to furnish labor and material to see that it is
Cleaned and Fenced " close Quote. It should have read " the Developer is
willing to furnish Labor and Material to see that it is fenced." .
I am sorry for the
mistake, and I apoligize, mistakes like that cause problems we dont need.
Sincerily, Jack Briles
Hello,
Can someone send the directions to the Fowler/Mundy in Marion County,I can make it to lend a hand, just need to know how to get there.
Thanks,
Walt
When I first saw someone mention a meeting in Rush County I had thoughts
of trying to attend, but my brother & his wife both work now and I offer to
help babysit in order to help them save some money, so weekends blur
together right now.
I am curious about which cemetery there you were referring to. I know I
have ancestors (Keelers) in a real small cemetery near the Shelby county
line I believe. I was there a few times as a kid and I remember that my
grandma had a stone erected there in the 1970's I think. Does the Vienna
Cemetery sound familiar to anyone? I'd like to know if it is in need of
any work done on it, if anyone knows.
Thanks for all of your volunteer work you've been putting in. I wish
everyone thought such things were so important. If anyone has any
questions about any Bartholomew, Jennings or Shelby County cemetery, just
email me at cherokee(a)shelbynet.net and I'll do the best I can to find out
what you need. I do know that I found this group when the Tucker cemetery
in Shelby county was unearthed about a year ago. The Shelbyville News did
an article mentioning Lois Mauk and I contacted her about possibly knowing
of who might have been buried there.
God Bless.
Cris West