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I heard late last night (Friday, 6/25/99) from Mr. Davidson about his
invitation for me to speak on Monday to his VFW post. He asked if they
could postpone my presentation to a later time, so I won't be going up there
to speak next week.
He seemed quite surprised that there were more than 200 cemeteries in
Jackson County (see http://www.rootsweb.com/~injackso/cem_listall.html ) and
that there were, in his county, people interested in protecting them.
I suspect I will hear again from Mr. Davidson and will keep you posted.
Lois
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Clark County Cemetery Preservation Committee meeting, Saturday, July 3, in
Hibernia (Owen Twp.):
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5881
Please visit the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp
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> Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 08:28:25
> From: billn
> To: "LawOfficeInformationSystem(a)worldnet.att.net?subject=Clark County
> Cemeteries" <LawOfficeInformationSystem(a)worldnet.att.net?subject=Clark County
> Cemeteries>
> Subject: Fountain Co.
>
> Lois,
>
> I recently talked to a Mr.Darrell Vyse of Covington IN. Fountain Co. about his
> problem with a Cemetery he has been cleaning
> up for a time, we talked on the phone for about 1 hr. then he gave me a mans
> name tat is a brother of the lady that owns
> the landand i talked to this brother for quite a while (Mr. Floyd DeHaven 82
> years old) the sister is 83 years old and lives
> in Washington D.C.
> After talking to these people I beleive the Cemetery is on private land and
> the Fountain Co. Trustee has no interest in
> keeping it up. Mr. Darrell Vyse is 65 years and wanted to find out who will
> keep up the Cemetery after he is unable to
> do this work anylonger. I told him that getting the public involved would his
> best bet infinding someone to contenue
> this work. I told Mr.Vyse I would take some pictures and wright something for
> the news paper and see what happens
> Just wanted to let you know what was going on.
>
> William D. Nunnally
Bob:
Congratulations to Aaron on choosing a cemetery clean-up as his Eagle Scout
project. I think he'll find it a very rewarding endeavor.
Has Aaron does the investigatory work to ascertain the true owner (not the
presumed) owner of the cemetery itself? Has he confirmed for an absolute
certainty that the cemetery has never been "deeded out" from the rest of the
tract?
Just because a cemetery is "on" private property does not necessarily mean
the property owner owns the cemetery. Aaron will need to talk to the County
Assessor and search the deed records for the site to determine this.
*IF* the cemetery has been deeded out, then the Township "owns" the site.
That means the Township Trustee is probably responsible for (1)
straightening and resetting stones, (2) leveling and reseeding the grounds,
(3) removing all noxious and detrimental vegetation, and (4) repairing and
building fences. If it is the Trustee's responsibility, he/she may have
some funds available for the care of this site.
Aaron needs to contact the Trustee to coordinate his project as he legally
can't disturb the site (even to do repairs) without the Trustee's
permission. Frankly, the Trustee will likely be thrilled to have some help
and free labor, but Aaron's efforts will have to be coordinated through the
Trustee if the site has been deeded out.
As far as securing assistance with this project, Aaron needs to contact the
Probation Officer in your local Superior Court to find out if people working
off community service sentences are available to assist with this project.
The Clark County Courts' Community Service Corps from Judge Stephen Fleece's
Superior Court has been of tremendous assistance to us on a couple of
projects here, as has the Clark County Sheriff, who provided a convict work
crew to do heavy cleaning for seven days at one neglected cemetery here.
You and Aaron may be interested in reading the "Eagle Scout Service Project
Planning Guide" at http://www.flash.net/~smithrc/eagleprj.htm . I'm sure
there are other, similar pages elsewhere on the Internet, but I had this one
bookmarked.
Good luck!
Lois
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Clark County Cemetery Preservation Committee meeting, Saturday, July 3, in
Hibernia (Owen Twp.):
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5881
Please visit the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp
My name is Bob Berlin. My 16 year old son, Aaron, has received approval to
do an Eagle Scout project which involves some sprucing up and the
installation of a new fence around a pioneer cemetery (Gossett Cemetery) in
Hendricks County (Washington Twp.) This cemetery contains the remains of a
Rev. War Vet, a War of 1812 Vet., and apparently several Civil War Vets.
Would appreciate any advice, help, referrals, tips that anyone might be able
to provide, Going to need to raise $750 to $1000 to do the project, but any
direction toward other forms of help would also be greatly appreciated.
Anyone that you know of in or around Hendricks County that is "in to" this
type project? Have consulted the INPCRP web site and will likely acquire at
least one of the books listed there.
Anyway ... Thanks for any help anyone may be able to give.
e-mail Arby4855(a)aol.com
US Mail 1253 Bur Oak Court, Danville, Indiana 46122
Thanks again !!
Who among us is interested in and/or has knowledge of Jackson County, IN
cemeteries?
I just received a tentative request to speak at VFW meeting on Monday, June
28, at 6:30 PM ("slow time") in Brownstown. Any of you interested in going
with me?
I can make it to this meeting because of the time difference (it'll be 7:30
my time).
Lois
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Clark County Cemetery Preservation Committee meeting, Saturday, July 3, in
Hibernia (Owen Twp.):
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5881
Please visit the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp
Well rats! It was June 19 ... did anyone attend? Dr. Criss Helmkamp,
Archeologist, Purdue University spoke on Cemetery Reconstruction.
Dale Drake
Morgan Co. History & Genealogy Assn.
At 02:50 PM 6/21/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Dale:
>
>Refresh our memories, if you can, about the "Shelbyville program with the
>archeologist speaker from Purdue on cemeteries". You thought it was on July
>10 and I can't recall the details. I'm sure others will be interested as
>well.
>
>Lois
>
>
Dale
Adam:
What a shame this project got started without you, but I'm sure the Eagle
Scout will be thrilled if you share some of the background and genealogical
information you've collected. It will help the project "come alive" when he
learns a little more about the people involved.
Congratulations on getting participation from the Trustee as well as the
community.
Lois
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam J Barrone <barraj01(a)holmes.ipfw.edu>
To: INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com <INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 6:36 PM
Subject: [INPCRP-L] Brown Cemetery Cleaning Has Begun! :)
>Monroeville News, May 26, 1999
>
>"Forsaken graveyard will get facelift
>17 year old Glen Martin, son of Mr. & Mrs. George Martin of Fort Wayne
>will enlist family and friends to help him do what no one else has been
>able to accomplish -- clean up the old Brown Cemtery in Monroe Township.
>Martin, a special ed student at Wayne High School and 8-year member of Boy
>Scout Troop 487 will take on the clean up task as part of his Eagle
>project. The date for the cleanup has been set for Saturday, June 19. If
>you would like to join Martin's voluneteer force, contact township trustee
>Max Meyer at 623-3717. Watch for a follow-up story at a later date."
>============================================================
>Unfortunately, I was not made aware of the cleanup effort, so I was not
>able to assist. I found out today that the cleanup was last Saturday, so
>I went to see what progress was made. Many small trees and weeds were
>cut and piled away from the graves, opening up the area around the graves
>making all of the gravestones visible from one spot. Various stones were
>lifted from the dirt. When I visited in May 1998, you couldn't see a
>four foot high stone that was right in front of you. There is work yet to
>be done, but it is a WONDERFUL start toward the restoration of my
>ancestor's burial ground.
>
>I wish to express my thanks to Twp. Trustee Max Meyer, Scout Glen Martin,
>and the other volunteers for their efforts.
>
>I also wish to thank the Fort Wayne News Sentinel and the Monroeville News
>for spreading the word about the need for the cleanup.
>
>For more information on the Brown Cemetery, visit:
>
>http://www.student.ipfw.edu/~barraj01/BrownCem.htm
>
>Have a good day!
>=====================================================
>Adam J. Barrone
>Fort Wayne, IN
>http://www.student.ipfw.edu/~barraj01/
>=====================================================
>Coordinator
>OMII Genealogical Association
>http://www.student.ipfw.edu/~barraj01/omii/
>=====================================================
>
>
>==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
>Cemetery: (n) A marble orchard not to be taken for granite.
>
>
HELP WANTED:
Needed person to help coordinate restroation of a peioneer cemetery in
Southern Franklin County. Zion Lutheran Cemetery is located on Pine Road
near the Franklin-Ripley County line. Help is needed pulling the pieces of
the project together. Landowner and a descendant of someone buried in the
cemetery are excitied about this project that could be accomplished very
easily. If interested please contact randyk(a)si-net.com. Your assistance
would be appreciated!!!
Randy Klemme
Franklin County PCRP
Monroeville News, May 26, 1999
"Forsaken graveyard will get facelift
17 year old Glen Martin, son of Mr. & Mrs. George Martin of Fort Wayne
will enlist family and friends to help him do what no one else has been
able to accomplish -- clean up the old Brown Cemtery in Monroe Township.
Martin, a special ed student at Wayne High School and 8-year member of Boy
Scout Troop 487 will take on the clean up task as part of his Eagle
project. The date for the cleanup has been set for Saturday, June 19. If
you would like to join Martin's voluneteer force, contact township trustee
Max Meyer at 623-3717. Watch for a follow-up story at a later date."
============================================================
Unfortunately, I was not made aware of the cleanup effort, so I was not
able to assist. I found out today that the cleanup was last Saturday, so
I went to see what progress was made. Many small trees and weeds were
cut and piled away from the graves, opening up the area around the graves
making all of the gravestones visible from one spot. Various stones were
lifted from the dirt. When I visited in May 1998, you couldn't see a
four foot high stone that was right in front of you. There is work yet to
be done, but it is a WONDERFUL start toward the restoration of my
ancestor's burial ground.
I wish to express my thanks to Twp. Trustee Max Meyer, Scout Glen Martin,
and the other volunteers for their efforts.
I also wish to thank the Fort Wayne News Sentinel and the Monroeville News
for spreading the word about the need for the cleanup.
For more information on the Brown Cemetery, visit:
http://www.student.ipfw.edu/~barraj01/BrownCem.htm
Have a good day!
=====================================================
Adam J. Barrone
Fort Wayne, IN
http://www.student.ipfw.edu/~barraj01/
=====================================================
Coordinator
OMII Genealogical Association
http://www.student.ipfw.edu/~barraj01/omii/
=====================================================
Dale:
Refresh our memories, if you can, about the "Shelbyville program with the
archeologist speaker from Purdue on cemeteries". You thought it was on July
10 and I can't recall the details. I'm sure others will be interested as
well.
Lois
Sorry bout that. Oct. 23rd it is. Just testing to see if anyone is awake. ;}
(truth is bifocals)
Ron..............
>I was all ready to mark my calendar for Saturday, 10/24/1999, but my
>calendar says that is a Sunday. Shall we assume the conference will be on
>10/23/99?
Ron:
I'll be there with bells on!
I was all ready to mark my calendar for Saturday, 10/24/1999, but my
calendar says that is a Sunday. Shall we assume the conference will be on
10/23/99?
Just tell me where, what time and where to send the check!
Tell us more. . . .
Lois
Hi Holly,
What an educational experience, and great report.
We need this in Indiana.
I finially heard from SOS. Save Outdoor Scultures. Karla Nickolson of
Kentucky Historical Society suggested I contact them to see about a workshop
like the first one I attended in Kentucky. SOS put on a wonderful workshop
on Monument restoral and preservation, they even provided a speaker from the
National Parks Service (Gettysburg). We visited cemetery in Frankfort Ky. to
evaluate memorial of a Vice-president. Here we saw our first example of
oxidation jacking.(Rusting steel pins lifting two tons of limestone, causing
it to fracture.)
Anyway SOS does not provide this service any longer.
The two day event (local- south/central Indiana) I was trying to organize is
now one day on October 24th, a Saturday. Is there anyone out there that
might attend for $25(?)? Lunch and snacks included, tour of cemeteries with
on going repairs. Just wanting to get an idea of what kind of response there
is before going much further.
We will help anyway we can with a INDIANA CEMETERY CONFERENCE.
Ron and Mary Jane Baldwin
Sorry I sent an empty letter!!!!
I wanted to say, I wish I was closer, so I could join in and help, I
appreciate all you are doing and know what hard work it is. I hope all of
you will be watching C_Span next Monday morning- Lincolns Precidency will be
on, Im hopeing they have something about his 14 years in Indiana. They always
forget he was there. My 2nd great grandfather, Adam Shoemaker was his
preacher and teacher at Little Pidgeon Creek church, and gave him the idea
for the emanisapation. Adam is burried On Hurricane Creek in Perry co, once
an abandon cemetetry, No More, but it took 21 years to find it, thanks to Mrs
Mills and the Albin family. The Pfaff family lovingly takes care of it today.
No Relation, No connection, just out of pure Love.
Thanks again, Nadine Shoemaker Arnold In California
What a great workshop in Des Moines, Iowa this past Saturday!
Chris Feistner did a great job getting speakers, topics and a great meeting
place for those interested in cemeteries. And it was great to put a face
with Chris who has done so much with the black market of cemetery items.
Iowa has a lot of interest in preserving their cemeteries. Their state
formed 30 years after our 1816 organizational date and they seem way ahead
of Indiana in the preservation of their cemeteries.
I traveled 7-8 hours going a lot above the speed limit just to hear their
program and get ideas for having OUR FIRST ever INDIANA CEMETERY CONFERENCE.
I only received three emails of interest when I asked the INCRP list before
about when, where and what topics would we like to see here in Indiana.
Isn't anyone here wanting a workshop and going to attend and support a very
much needed Cemetery preservation workshop here in Indiana?
They had a display area with preservation photos by several groups. They
had a man who travels their state and does entire cemetery restoration at a
reasonable price. He contacts the trustee and they make a deal for
restoration and sometimes it takes more than one budget year to accomplish
their goals.
Next year's Iowa Cemetery Conference host, Dave Bahe, stated the event will
be in Charles City, IA probably in the fall of 2000. He and I are going to
share ideas about future state conferences in our own state.
The first speaker was Phyllis Carter, retired teacher spoke on "Involvement
of Children and Youth in the Preservation and Restoration of Cemeteries".
Phyllis was a Jr. High teacher and took her students on a field trip to the
cemetery. She tried to incorporate Math, English, Science, Social Studies
and Language Art in her program.
She had them identify the kind of stone, its size, the symbol meanings.
A scavenger hunt was part of the fun
Finding the oldest person, odd first names, how many weeping willow emblems,
all the civil war vets (weren't many in Iowa), oldest death, oldest birth.
Then they were to write down one name they liked in particular and had to
research the person. They brought in speakers to the class room and had
other projects like making their own epitaphs. They wrote poems about the
person in their report. Did math problems about how many graves could be in
a plot. The ideas were endless, rubbings, wildlife, animals, bugs, trees.
WHAT A GREAT TEACHER....
She also spoke of Eagle Scout projects that we all have heard before.
The next speaker was David Gradwhol-Professor of Anthropology at Iowa State
University who spoke on Jewish cemeteries in Iowa-Their signs, symbols and
histories. He showed slides and explained the Jewish heritage in cemetery
artwork. He spoke of reformed and orthodox Jewish faiths being in different
cemeteries. He explained the symbols and Jewish letters on the gravestones.
Told about the pebbles being placed on the gravestone as a calling card
memorial to the deceased. Non Jewish spouse sometimes cant be buried in some
Jewish cemeteries because they aren't of the Jewish faith.
The next speaker was Shirley Shermer-Director, office of Iowa State
Archaeologist Burials, spoke on Iowa Burial laws and archaeology in Iowa
Today. She is like the Lois Mauk of Iowa, and knows the laws inside and
out. I couldn't write her information down fast enough. Iowa originally
preserved the burial grounds of Indians but now they are fighting to get it
changed to include WHITE folks too who were early settlers.
Check out these sites:
Iowa code Website is http://www.legis.state.ia.us/
check out http://www.uiowa.edu/~osa/burials.htm
She quoted laws and regulations that need to be read at the Website. I
might misquote something she said, so go read to the web site.
Check out the Iowa Cemetery preservation issues with the State Association
for the Preservation of Iowa Cemeteries at c/o IGS(Iowa Genealogy Society),
PO box 7735, Des Moines, IA 50322-7735
or check their web site ...SAPIC(State Assoc... for the Preservation of Iowa
Cem) at
http://www.sapic.org I joined their cause with a membership and bought a
video, "Preservation 101" about cemetery restoration. This group had the
largest representation at the conference, each county is allowed to form
their own group. What an active group in their state.
Some heard of Lois and her cemetery list INPCRP but others hadn't. Told
them to all join up and hear our Indiana happenings.
There was a topic about Iowa-Sac Tribe having and internet Website. Didn't
take many notes during this time.
Chris Feistner-Chairperson of Villisca Cemetery Commission and chairperson
of this event, told of "Cemetery Destruction and Desecration with
Information Regarding Black market Funerary Items". Our cemeteries are
being ripped off while we watch. And we are considered the bad guys when we
just want to enter the cemetery on private land. Aren't the laws great for
the real crooks. Chris and his group...dont remember the name...are working
hard with other states about drawing attention to this black market.
These are the highlights about the conference, maybe Chris can give some of
his highlights about the conference. And see you didn't even have to travel
7-8 hrs one way...15 hrs driving time to learn what I did.
It was fun enjoying the day with others with the same interests as I
share......Cemeteries
GREAT JOB CHRIS!
Holly Jenks
LaPorte, IN
Holly:
What an exciting report about the Iowa conference. I'm so envious of you!
After spending the day in Bowling Green attending their 3rd conference, I
share your excitement in seeing something similar happen here in Indiana.
Glad you made it home safely.
Lois
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> ********************************************************************************
> *************************
> Lois,
>
> I am Benton County Coordinator for [INPCRP] but I live in Fountain County if I
> can be of any help to this person pleasr let me know who he is or give him my
> address and I will work with him.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bill Nunnally
>
> ******************************************************************************
> ******************************
>
> ----------
> > Is there anyone on the INPCRP list who's working in or concerned about
> > FOUNTAIN COUNTY? I got a call this morning from a gentleman who has
> > recently cleaned an old family cemetery, apparently on private property, and
> > he wants to know how to ensure that it will be cared for in the future.
> >
> > Oddly enough, this gentleman contacted me at the suggestion of his State
> > Representative, Dale Grubb, who is a member of Markt Lytle's Agriculture,
> > Natural Resources and Rural Development Committee.
> >
> > The Township Trustee advised this individual that, if he started taking care
> > of this cemetery, he would have to "raise taxes". Boy, ain't that the kind
> > of remark that will stop a conversation in its tracks?
> >
> > This gentleman is going to do some research to determine for a certainty
> > whether or not the cemetery is, indeed, on private property and whether it
> > has been "deeded out", in which case the Trustee will be obligated to care
> > for it.
> >
> > I've given him some suggestions and a bit of advice, but I'm hoping there is
> > someone on the INPCRP list who can get involved as well, but on a local
> > level.
> >
> > Lois
> > ---------------------------------
> > Clark County Cemetery Preservation Committee meeting, Saturday, July 3, in
> > Hibernia (Owen Twp.):
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5881
> > Please visit the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project at:
> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ==== INPCRP Mailing List ====
> > If you know of some good cemetery related links, send them to
> > LoisMauk(a)usa.net.
>
Is there anyone on the INPCRP list who's working in or concerned about
FOUNTAIN COUNTY? I got a call this morning from a gentleman who has
recently cleaned an old family cemetery, apparently on private property, and
he wants to know how to ensure that it will be cared for in the future.
Oddly enough, this gentleman contacted me at the suggestion of his State
Representative, Dale Grubb, who is a member of Markt Lytle's Agriculture,
Natural Resources and Rural Development Committee.
The Township Trustee advised this individual that, if he started taking care
of this cemetery, he would have to "raise taxes". Boy, ain't that the kind
of remark that will stop a conversation in its tracks?
This gentleman is going to do some research to determine for a certainty
whether or not the cemetery is, indeed, on private property and whether it
has been "deeded out", in which case the Trustee will be obligated to care
for it.
I've given him some suggestions and a bit of advice, but I'm hoping there is
someone on the INPCRP list who can get involved as well, but on a local
level.
Lois
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Clark County Cemetery Preservation Committee meeting, Saturday, July 3, in
Hibernia (Owen Twp.):
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5881
Please visit the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp
I had the distinct pleasure of speaking Friday, June 18, 1999, at a cemetery
preservation workshop in Bowling Green, KY sponsored by the Southern
Kentucky Genealogical Society, the Historical Confederation of Kentucky and
the Kentucky Historical Society.
The speakers included:
U of L Archaeologist Phil DeBlasi who spoke on cemetery preservation laws in
Kentucky and his work moving and mapping cemeteries that lie in the path of
development.
I've added a link to Phil's website on the INPCRP main page,
including his pages on Kentucky Revised Statutes relating to
cemeteries, Opinions of the Kentucky Attorney General
relating to cemeteries and Regulations for Moving Burials
from a cemetery
Al Matherly of Matherly Cemetery Design Services <amatherly(a)ntr.net> who
spoke on cemetery mapping and establishing boundaries. (I forgot to ask him
if he has a website, but I am checking into this.)
Mark Lowe <MarkLowe(a)nc5.infi.net> who spoke on increasing public interest
and awareness of cemeteries.
Karla Nicholson <karla.nicholson(a)mail.state.ky.us> of the Kentucky
Historical Society
<http://www.kyhistory.org>, who spoke to us about grants available for
cemetery preservation projects in Kentucky.
I really enjoyed attending this conference and am grateful for the
opportunity to talk to them about our efforts with respect to the 1999
Indiana General Assembly as well as our hopes for the future.
Lois
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Clark County Cemetery Preservation Committee meeting, Saturday, July 3, in
Hibernia (Owen Twp.):
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5881
Please visit the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~inpcrp