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Well, Now that I have signed on to my Netscape I see that I have a few
messages that made it through. I've been busy with another project
(writing an e-mail application) and in so doing have managed to loose
most of two days worth of mail (bugs in the new program). So, if anyone
has sent me a message and I didn't reply, please send it again.
I have made several trips to the library lately to find copies of
cemetery readings. It seems that someone actually did do the entire
county in 1961-62. Looking at the number of names this individual was
able to read and knowing how many stones are apparent in many of these
cemeteries gives a good clue as to the effects of 35 years of neglect.
My Pilcher cemetery has less than a dozen standing stones in it. The
reading from '62 has over 50 listed! I'm looking forward to warmer
weather when I can get the physical restoration moving along in
earnest. Still, the winter months do have a high point for cemetery
restoration: The weeds are thinned out and knocked down, and the bare
trees make looking for headstones a little easier. I have a cemetery
nestled in a very thick woods.
Well, more later. I have to get this program finished.
--
Scott Satterthwaite
Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project State Coordinator
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/inpcrp/
Huntington County InGenWeb Coordinator
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/HiGenWeb.html
Huntington County Biographies
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/hibios/huntbios.html
Well County Biographies
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/webios/
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Remember to give us your project updates at monthly Roll-Call!
The Clark County Cemetery Preservation Committee had its second official
meeting last Saturday (12/6/97). We are still discussing Bylaws and
priorities at this juncture, but we're making progress.
The fundraising tour of the ten pioneer cemeteries inside the Indiana Army
Ammunition Plant on 11/29/97 was a huge success. #1 -- It didn't rain! #2
-- We had two 47-passenger buses full to capacity. #3 -- We netted over
$500, which will be used as seed money for materials, equipment and supplies
to restore and preserve pioneer cemeteries in Clark County.
We are working on a "Dirty Dozen" list of the worst and most
neglected/abused cemeteries in Clark County's twelve townships.
We are seeking volunteers to serve as Township Captains. The 12 Captains
will (1) attempt to establish working, productive relationships with their
respective Township Trustees, (2) help identify all of the cemeteries in
their Townships and (3) drum up interest, support and volunteers to work on
cleaning up abandoned and neglected cemeteries in their Townships.
Our next meeting is set for Saturday, January 3, 1998 at 2:00 P.M. at the
Clarksville Library.
That's all for now. Good night from Jeffersonville.
Lois Mauk
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We need YOU on the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project
e-mail discussion group. For details:
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/inpcrp/
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Clark County, Indiana Cemeteries Page:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5881/index.html
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INPCRP Members:
I was out of town for a couple of days and, when I returned, I found that
Scott had informed you all that he's asked me to be his Assistant State
Coordinator for INPCRP.
First, I'm very pleased and honored that he asked me to help. Second, I'd
like your suggestions as to how I can be useful.
I have a couple of thoughts off the top of my head that I want to mention
tonight:
(1) Reminder: If you have a message of interest to the group as a whole,
post it to INPCRP-L(a)rootsweb.com, not to me or Scott personally. Of course,
you're certainly welcome to write to us directly, but frankly, you'll get a
lot more input if you pose a question to the group at large.
(2) Things have been a little quiet on this list for a while. I can't
remember a roll-call being conducted yet for December so, unless I am
mistaken, I'd like for each and every one of you to drop a line to the group
to let us know what you've been up to for the past several weeks. I know
the weather has been icky and certainly not condusive to cemetery
restoration. That should not, however, prevent us from setting goals and
priorities.
Winter is creeping up on us fast but it won't last forever! We need
to get our proverbial ducks in a row and be ready to jump on our respective
projects at the first opportunity. Let us know what cemeteries are of most
concern to you and why. Let us know what steps you've taken to determine
the ownership of the property and whether you think you can get permission
to tackle cleaning it up. Let us know what contacts you've made to marshal
volunteers to help with the work. Have you made any pleas for donations for
materials, equipment and supplies? Let us know what contacts you've made
with your respective Township Trustees and their responses.
(3) If you know anyone interested in preserving Indiana's pioneer
cemeteries, drop him or her a e-mail today and invite them to join us here
on the INPCRP mailing list. Every INPCRP County Coordinator must be a
member of this group, but you don't have to be a County Coordinator to
participate in the group. (Does that make sense? :-) I hope so.)
It's nearly midnight here and I've been on the road since 8 AM, so I'm gonna
hit the sack. I look forward to help in any way I can.
Lois Mauk
Jeffersonville, Indiana
At 05:27 PM 12/8/1997 +0000, you wrote:
>
>Please welcome Lois Mauk as the New Assistant State Coordinator for PCRP.
Lois is a veteran of the cemeteries battle and I'm sure she will provide
valuable input to the project. She will be conducting the monthly Roll Call
and various other duties as well.
>
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We need YOU on the Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project
e-mail discussion group. For details:
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/inpcrp/
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Clark County, Indiana Cemeteries Page:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5881/index.html
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Cemetery: (n) A marble orchard not to be taken for granite.
Please welcome Lois Mauk as the New Assistant State Coordinator for PCRP. Lois is a veteran of the cemeteries battle and I'm sure she will provide valuable input to the project. She will be conducting the monthly Roll Call and various other duties as well.
Welcome Lois. Glad to have you.
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Scott Satterthwaite
Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project State Coordinator
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/inpcrp/
Huntington County InGenWeb Coordinator
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/HiGenWeb.html
Huntington County Biographies
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/hibios/huntbios.html
Well County Biographies
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/webios/
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Blessed are the Elderly, for they remember what we will never know.
Hi!
I had a question about an 'ingrown' WWI memorial plaque
and thought similar situations could occur in cemeteries.
A 1919 Dedication Photo is at
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3211/dv_then.jpg
A current 1997 photo is at
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3211/dv_now.jpg
The Plaque was placed in front of newly planted
Victory Oak Tree on Decoration Day 1919. The tree
looks like a 6" pole behind the plaque.
78 years later, the Oak Tree is 3 to 4 feet wide
and has partially overgrown the plaque.
Is there a way to extract the plaque from the
tree (without harming the tree) and have it
remounted on a stone or concrete marker
or something similar?
The plaque and tree is on private property,
but it is on the grounds of the historic Rathbone
Retirement Apartments, (former "elderly hospital")
and is somewhat friendly with the area preservation
community.
-Chris
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Randy,
Apparently those county commissioners aren't very swift. Both the
county and the townships have the rights of imminent domain to condemn
any cemetery and pay fair market value to the landowner (provided the
cemetery isn't under the control of a cemetery corporation or
association, or is being badly cared for). I'm sure the suggestion
would raise eyebrows but most of the these little cemeteries are under
an acre (and therefore wouldnt cost much). Jab those commissioners a
good one and wake them up.
--
Scott Satterthwaite
Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project State Coordinator
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/inpcrp/
Indiana Biographies Project Assistant State Coordinator
http://www.aye.net/~dee1234/indybios/inbio2.html
Huntington County InGenWeb Coordinator
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/HiGenWeb.html
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Remember to give us your project updates at monthly Roll-Call!
It may not be the county I am working on, but it seems my home county of
Fayette continues to be a news hot bed for cemeteries. After the good
article of two weeks ago, cemeteries were brought up at a commissioners
meeting. Here is the article
http://www.connersvillein.com/insidenews.asp?ID=3147
Randy Klemme
Franklin County PCRP
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Just a quick note to let you all know that the bus tour of the ten pioneer
cemeteries inside the Indiana Army Ammunition Plant at Charlestown (Clark
County) on 11/29/97 was a huge success! We had almost 100 people on the
tour and, believe it or not it didn't rain!
On the downside, however, my system has been going haywire since Saturday.
Last night, the hard drive crashed. I'll be installed a new drive this
evening and hope to be up and running by Wednesday. I started to update the
Clark County Cemeteries website on Saturday evening and made a few changes
and added a few photos, but then the system started acting up. Bottom line:
The only new photos are two of the KOONZ Cemetery where two SPANGLERs are
buried. I've got a lot more to add to several sites, but can't do it until
the computer is repaired. Fortunately, my husband builds computers and he
is supposed to get it back up and running ASAP. (Wish me luck on that!)
More later.
Lois
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Cemetery: (n) A marble orchard not to be taken for granite.
Looks like I will be putting my projects on hold until at least March.
I am too busy with my "paying job" this time of year and it is really
tough to get volunteers to work in the cold weather. I feel I have done
quite a bit outside on this first project. I am now going to use the
winter for promotion time and as soon as the weather breaks, I will be
back out there. The last trip put me in bed for 10 weeks with broncitis
so maybe I am a little gun shy at the moment.
Randy Klemme
Franklin County PCRP
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Ron,
Thank you very much for the praise. I wish I felt worthy of it.
Under state law, a cemetery owner CAN sell cemetery property as long as
the new owner is responsible for any obligations for the upkeep of the
property. This would include items of antiquity such as the canons you
told of. In this case, a museum with the proper facilities to take care
of such an item, may indeed be the best place for it. Many old canons
(and other artifacts) from sites around the country are being removed
from outdoor display to protect and preserve them. Some of these items
are being replaced with reproductions.
While it is sad to see such artifacts removed from their traditional
places of honor, we must stay objective and keep the overall well being
of such surprisingly fragile artifacts in mind. Like the headstones,
footstones, and other cemetery monuments of stone we now strive to
protect, heavy metal objects like canons are also subject to the effects
of weather. I, for one, would rather see the resources of a cemetery
spent on the maintenance and preservation of the stones and graves
rather than consumed by trying to fight mother nature to preserve one or
two pieces of superfluous antiquity. Remember, once a cemetery is no
longer selling plats, its continued care becomes unprofitable, depending
on dwindling trusts and donations for perpetual care.
--
Scott Satterthwaite
Indiana Pioneer Cemeteries Restoration Project State Coordinator
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/inpcrp/
Indiana Biographies Project Assistant State Coordinator
http://www.aye.net/~dee1234/indybios/inbio2.html
Huntington County InGenWeb Coordinator
http://www.citznet.com/~ssattert/HiGenWeb.html
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Any ancestors you can dig up would be appreciated.
Hi All,
I have been observing, learning and watching in wonder at what a
valuable tool this will be to those who care about our cemeteries.
Have you heard of two Canons being sold from a GAR monument (in a
cemetery) North of US 40? This happened in 96. Museum (on East coast)
says they can take better care of canon which they purchased for several
thousand dollars. A reproduction canon has been put on site. (Using this
logic, sounds like collectors can dig up pottery if they replace with
tupperware.)
But how can owner of cemetery sell these items?
Indiana State Laws for the protection of cemeteries are sad.
I have been involved with the inventory of the 248 cemeteries in Monroe
Co. for about 4 years now. Have personlly only visited maybe 60.
Scott, You are doing a great service. Thank You.
Ron Baldwin in Bloomington
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Any ancestors you can dig up would be appreciated.